Jon & Kate Plus 8

[maggiegrace1]

DisneyPrincess5 I am done with it too. It's gotten retarded that is the best word I can think of right now. Her on the beach in a Bikini, hello...we know you look great, no have some self respect for youself and your kids...gee wiz...I am done, I love the Little Couple and I love the Roloffs....thank god there are some normal left in this crazy world.

I am not quite understanding what the problem is with her wearing a bikini on the beach?..Where else would she wear it?

She looks pretty good for her age after having that many kids and yes she did have surgery but hell If I was offered a free tummy tuck I would take it also...:shrug:

I think they will announce they are getting divorced. It is sad but I think Kate is pretty much a hard person to be around. She is so self absorbed. Sad for the kids tho. I find it sad also that they used religion as a web to get people sucked into their show. Now she is using charity. I cant stand it. I am done with this show .

Also let me not leave Jon the moron out of this. He should have never cheated on his wife and he should have grew some and told her a marriage is about equality and not hurting the other person or breaking them down .

Has there been any proof that he has cheated..I have not seen any proof yet?..Maybe I missed that...

 

[bobjl527]

Has there been any proof that he has cheated..I have not seen any proof yet?..Maybe I missed that...

I think that the pictures and eyewittnesses who have seen them together is the only proof out there. He was with her in Utah. Apparently the staff of the resort has blown the whistle on that one. The girls brother has stated that he has spent the night on numerous occasions. I think the whole, "We're just friends." is a lot of bull. It was only a matter of time for this to happen. I told my wife during the second season that their marriage was in trouble. When a young man like Jon is being treated so badly by his wife, it doesn't take much. A pretty young girl showing interest him and giving him more attention than his wife has since the kids came. It was bound to happen. As far as I am concerned, they are both at fault. The only victims here are the kids. I am sure we'll learn more when one of them writes a book on growing up as a Gosselin.

 

[sbkline]

Said very well and I agree!

Now all this stuff about her smacking the kid, him with his girlfriend on Kate's birthday, Kate in bikinis without Jon at the beach with the kids...I'm definitely done with this show for good!

Oh for Heaven's sake, she just spanked the kid because she disobeyed. She didn't way-lay her across the driveway for cryin' out loud. Like I said, I'm no fan of Kate's; I think she is a rude, loud mouthed woman who over dramatizes petty things (such as freaking out at WDW, for example, when the kid spilled ice cream on her outfit), and she does not show the proper respect to her husband. Yes, I'm old school on that, too. I believe the man is to be the head of the home and the wife should give due respect to the husband's authority as head of the family. And there is nothing wrong with spanking a child. I have a paddle that I use to correct my child, and all Kate did was use her hand. But my son also knows how much I love him, and everytime I have to spank him for something, I make sure to tell him afterwards that I love him very much, but that I can't have him acting like that. But, for all the bad I can say about Kate, this is one time she did something right.

As far as her on the beach in a bikini, so what? I'm not saying I condone women wearing bikinis, from the standpoint of bodily modesty. But she's hardly the first woman, nor the only woman to wear a bikini at the beach. Thousands of women wear them, so why is it any more appaling to see Kate do so?

As far as Jon being out with another woman, on that one, yes, I can see merit in getting fed up with the show with that kind of drama going on, especially if they can prove infidelity. But the other two points you raised are just trivial.

 

[DisneyPrincess5]

Yes, I'm old school on that, too. I believe the man is to be the head of the home and the wife should give due respect to the husband's authority as head of the family.

This comment is beyond offensive to more women than just me, I'm sure.

 

[maggiegrace1]

This comment is beyond offensive to more women than just me, I'm sure.

:lol:
Nah..I just let Steve talk..he is set in his ways on many things..and I respect that..we disagree on MANY MANY MANY things..but he is a good guy..and does not mean to offend anyone..it is just the way he believes things should be..:shrug:

He is harmless...:animwink:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

:snore::snore::snore:


CANCEL THE SHOW.

 

[sbkline]

This comment is beyond offensive to more women than just me, I'm sure.

Any of you ever watch "18 Kids and Counting" on TLC? I remember watching one of the episodes where Josh and Anna were courting and preparing to get married. In one of the clips with Anna's father, he mentioned how God's plan is for the woman to be under the authority of her father until she gets married, and then that authority is transferred to her husband. Of course, they're from a pretty conservative Baptist background and that belief, or some version of it, is pretty common in such groups. They mean no offense either...it's just the way they believe the Bible lays it out. I'm not necessarily a Baptist, but I do tend to hold to that viewpoint as well. And I know in this day and age, that viewpoint is increasingly offensive, but that's just how I believe and I can't change that just to fit the modern mold.

 

[sbkline]

:snore::snore::snore:


CANCEL THE SHOW.

I never really got into the show much, but my wife used to watch it alot. She's since moved onto other shows and lost interest in Jon and Kate. She told me not long ago that she isn't really into that show much anymore, especially in light of their drama, and that she prefers to watch the Duggars, since she has so much more in common with them and their beliefs than she does Jon and Kate. But when she used to watch it, I would sometimes catch a little bit of it with her, but the only time I was really into it was, of course, the episode where they went to WDW. I DVRd that one! :lol:

 

[ThinkTink721]

I also believe that it will either be to announce divorce or cancel the show.

 

[partyoffour]

right[/I].

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I completely disagree but respect you opinion.

I came from a house with a paddle which makes me not spank at all. I remember that red paddle my dad made like it was yesterday. i also remember as a kid waiting until he and my mom went on a vacation and my brother and I disguarding it in the woods when we were 12 and 9. That thing freakin hurt!!!

The man as the head of the household ..MMMM I prefer to think we are equals but again I get where u are coming from my parents did the same thing. I just believe that we both do the same to take care of the house and dont feel he should be put on a pedistal just cause he has something between his legs. Makes him no differ than I at all.

 

[LiveyMouse22]

I think that the whole thing is just awful. Jon and Kate are both at fault for different things whether they are willing to admit it or not. I don't know what will happen but I'm definitely not watching the show anymore. The whole thing with Kate not giving her daughter water on the set of an interview? What was that? I mean I understand if she gave some to her and then the rest of the children would be wanting some and getting out of control, but you should tell her that and not drink some right in front of her. Throughout the whole series Jon and Kate were putting their children first with everything (which is a good thing, your children is always your first priority) but you also have to make sure your marriage isn't going under which they did not really focus on. Parents, especially ones with 8 children, should make sure that they are taking time for themselves or they will most likely change which seems is what happened here. Now it seems that the two are not taking enough time to think about what is best for their children in the situation which they are now in. When it all comes down to it 8 children really need a strong foundation and if Jon and Kate end up getting divorced they need to find a way to put aside their differences for their kids if it is too late to work on their own problems together. I don't know, the issue might be bigger or not as big as we are all aware of but this is just what it comes across as to me and my opinion of it. I wish them all the best in whatever happens. Sorry for the long response it just seems like a really complicated situation to me. :shrug:

 

[sbkline]

I think that the whole thing is just awful. Jon and Kate are both at fault for different things whether they are willing to admit it or not. I don't know what will happen but I'm definitely not watching the show anymore. The whole thing with Kate not giving her daughter water on the set of an interview? What was that? I mean I understand if she gave some to her and then the rest of the children would be wanting some and getting out of control, but you should tell her that and not drink some right in front of her.

I didn't see the episode, but if it's as you describe, I don't see the big deal. A child isn't going to thirst to death if he/she doesn't get a glass of water RIGHT NOW. I go through the same thing with my son sometimes, too. I'll be in the middle of something and he'll ask for a drink. I'll tell him I'll get it in a little bit but that I am in the middle of something at the moment. I'm certainly not intending to deprive the child, but come on...we're not in the middle of the Sahara desert here. We're in the comfort of our home and the child needs to learn that he can't just snap his fingers and receive instant gratification. If he has to wait 5 minutes for something to eat, he's not gonna starve to death. If he has to wait 5 minutes for something to drink, he's not gonna dehydrate. I will tend to his needs but I cannot/will not just drop everything at a moment's notice just to be at his beck and call. I'm the parent, he's the child, and he has to learn that Dad will tend to his needs, but he also has to learn patience and that sometimes he may have to wait a couple minutes until Mom or Dad can find a good stopping place. As for Kate, it sounds to me like she was busy with the interview and the child asked for a glass of water, and Kate was busy at the moment. The child isn't going to collapse of dehydration if she has to wait 5 minutes until Kate is done with the interview. I don't know which daughter you are talking about, but from what little I've seen of that show, the two oldest daughters come accross as spoiled, mouthy little brats who are used to getting their way and what they want, when they want. It seems totally plausible to me that Kate was busy with the interview, and little miss bossy decides that she has to have this glass of water RIGHT NOW and Kate decided to be the Mom and tell her that she'll have to wait her turn. I see not a thing wrong with that.

My wife's sister has a spoiled little 4 year old daughter who is used to getting her way, and she obviously doesn't receive the discipline at home, to realize who is in charge, because from what my wife and I can tell, the child is in charge of that house. And I, for one, am sick of demanding children who are in charge at home because Mom and Dad are unwilling to be the boss and tell their children "no" or to tell them when they have to wait just a sec.

 

[k.hunter30]

Any of you ever watch "18 Kids and Counting" on TLC? I remember watching one of the episodes where Josh and Anna were courting and preparing to get married. In one of the clips with Anna's father, he mentioned how God's plan is for the woman to be under the authority of her father until she gets married, and then that authority is transferred to her husband. Of course, they're from a pretty conservative Baptist background and that belief, or some version of it, is pretty common in such groups. They mean no offense either...it's just the way they believe the Bible lays it out. I'm not necessarily a Baptist, but I do tend to hold to that viewpoint as well. And I know in this day and age, that viewpoint is increasingly offensive, but that's just how I believe and I can't change that just to fit the modern mold.

Steve, you know I respect you, but I think it's also important to add that it's not as simple as the women of the household blindly obeying and submitting her husband. The husband has a role to live up to too, and that's to love his wife as... well, you know the rest. But that's a mighty feat to do as well. That kind of love, as we know, is a servant love.

And I think, taking that into consideration, one can't place all blame on either Kate or Jon. They both seemed to not live up to their part of "the bargain."

 

[ChipmunkStar]

I didn't see the episode, but if it's as you describe, I don't see the big deal. A child isn't going to thirst to death if he/she doesn't get a glass of water RIGHT NOW. I go through the same thing with my son sometimes, too. I'll be in the middle of something and he'll ask for a drink. I'll tell him I'll get it in a little bit but that I am in the middle of something at the moment. I'm certainly not intending to deprive the child, but come on...we're not in the middle of the Sahara desert here.

Yes, but if your son asks for a glass of water or something to eat because he's "soooo hungy/thirsty," Do you tell him no, and then turn around and start eating a sandwich in front of him? Because that's exactly what Kate did at that interview.

Having seen the clip about a hundred times now (thank you, Talk Soup, The Dish, and several other outlets), Kate tells the daughter "You need to wait." Then, about 2 minutes later, asks the crew "Hey, could someone toss me a water bottle?" She then takes a swig, closes the bottle, and puts it back aside. The daughter THEN tells her "Mommy, you're mean! You drank that right in front of me!"

Had she said "No, not right now" and continued with the interview, it would have been a non event. THe fact that she said No, and then has someone on the filming cre throw her a water and doesn't share it with her thirsty child, THAT'S where the uproar is stemming from.

 

[LiveyMouse22]

I didn't see the episode, but if it's as you describe, I don't see the big deal. A child isn't going to thirst to death if he/she doesn't get a glass of water RIGHT NOW. I go through the same thing with my son sometimes, too. I'll be in the middle of something and he'll ask for a drink. I'll tell him I'll get it in a little bit but that I am in the middle of something at the moment. I'm certainly not intending to deprive the child, but come on...we're not in the middle of the Sahara desert here. We're in the comfort of our home and the child needs to learn that he can't just snap his fingers and receive instant gratification. If he has to wait 5 minutes for something to eat, he's not gonna starve to death. If he has to wait 5 minutes for something to drink, he's not gonna dehydrate. I will tend to his needs but I cannot/will not just drop everything at a moment's notice just to be at his beck and call. I'm the parent, he's the child, and he has to learn that Dad will tend to his needs, but he also has to learn patience and that sometimes he may have to wait a couple minutes until Mom or Dad can find a good stopping place. As for Kate, it sounds to me like she was busy with the interview and the child asked for a glass of water, and Kate was busy at the moment. The child isn't going to collapse of dehydration if she has to wait 5 minutes until Kate is done with the interview. I don't know which daughter you are talking about, but from what little I've seen of that show, the two oldest daughters come accross as spoiled, mouthy little brats who are used to getting their way and what they want, when they want. It seems totally plausible to me that Kate was busy with the interview, and little miss bossy decides that she has to have this glass of water RIGHT NOW and Kate decided to be the Mom and tell her that she'll have to wait her turn. I see not a thing wrong with that.

My wife's sister has a spoiled little 4 year old daughter who is used to getting her way, and she obviously doesn't receive the discipline at home, to realize who is in charge, because from what my wife and I can tell, the child is in charge of that house. And I, for one, am sick of demanding children who are in charge at home because Mom and Dad are unwilling to be the boss and tell their children "no" or to tell them when they have to wait just a sec.

I understand exactly where you are coming from and don't disagree with you at all. However, the video shows Kate and the kids on the set of an interview and her daughter asking her for water, Kate then says that they don't have time and she'll have some after the interview. Right after though she says something like water's a great idea is there enough time for me to have a bottle of water, gets the water, drinks it and all the while her daughter could have quickly taken a sip. It really isn't a big deal at all I just think that she could have just given her a quick sip right after she got the water for herself and then there wouldn't have been any controversy at all.

 

[DormaNesbit]

According to the internet, papers were filed today on behalf of the Gosslins for a legal separation. Very sad!

 

[One Lil Spark]

According to the internet, papers were filed today on behalf of the Gosslins for a legal separation. Very sad!

Do you have a link for us? :wave:

Thanks!

EDIT: Nevermind, found it on my trusty Perez!

 

[bobjl527]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-090622-jnkate-gosselin-file-divorce,0,6337838.story


Well.....so much for tonights big announcement.

 

[sbkline]

Yes, but if your son asks for a glass of water or something to eat because he's "soooo hungy/thirsty," Do you tell him no, and then turn around and start eating a sandwich in front of him? Because that's exactly what Kate did at that interview.

Having seen the clip about a hundred times now (thank you, Talk Soup, The Dish, and several other outlets), Kate tells the daughter "You need to wait." Then, about 2 minutes later, asks the crew "Hey, could someone toss me a water bottle?" She then takes a swig, closes the bottle, and puts it back aside. The daughter THEN tells her "Mommy, you're mean! You drank that right in front of me!"

Had she said "No, not right now" and continued with the interview, it would have been a non event. THe fact that she said No, and then has someone on the filming cre throw her a water and doesn't share it with her thirsty child, THAT'S where the uproar is stemming from.

I understand exactly where you are coming from and don't disagree with you at all. However, the video shows Kate and the kids on the set of an interview and her daughter asking her for water, Kate then says that they don't have time and she'll have some after the interview. Right after though she says something like water's a great idea is there enough time for me to have a bottle of water, gets the water, drinks it and all the while her daughter could have quickly taken a sip. It really isn't a big deal at all I just think that she could have just given her a quick sip right after she got the water for herself and then there wouldn't have been any controversy at all.

Okay, given those extra facts, I'll agree that Kate didn't handle it the right way. Like I said, I hadn't seen the episode, so I was only speculating and trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, especially knowing how the two older daughters are. And in a day and age where everyone is so quick to jump all over a parent for saying "no" or for disciplining a child, I am extra cautious to give the parents the benefit of the doubt until I am presented with all the facts to examine myself. But based on what info you guys just gave me, it does look like Kate was in the wrong.

 

[sbkline]

Steve, you know I respect you, but I think it's also important to add that it's not as simple as the women of the household blindly obeying and submitting her husband. The husband has a role to live up to too, and that's to love his wife as... well, you know the rest. But that's a mighty feat to do as well. That kind of love, as we know, is a servant love.

And I think, taking that into consideration, one can't place all blame on either Kate or Jon. They both seemed to not live up to their part of "the bargain."

Very true. And, as you said, the man's role of head of the family isn't supposed to be a dictatorship type of role. Women, in my belief, are called to "submit to their husbands", but husbands are given the command to love their wives as Christ loved the church...in other words to love them so much that they are willing to give their life for them. But my simple point was that it was the wives, not the husbands, who are called to be submissive. By pointing that out, I wasn't intending to exclude the command that the husbands are given.

And I won't lie and say that I have mastered the art of loving my wife the way we are called to. I won't deny that I have a long way to go on that count.