Figment632
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Well put these are the same people that love Nemo in the Sea's and think that its ok to make every attraction based off of a film.
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Is the clock ticking on the Sorcerer Mickey Hat icon at the Studios? YES!
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Well put these are the same people that love Nemo in the Sea's and think that its ok to make every attraction based off of a film.
PhilharMagician
Well-Known Member
The hat may be going!!:sohappy: If they need help I will grab my toolbelt and be on the next plane!!:lookaroun
It was so much better when you walked into the park and looked down the street at the Chinese Theater. Makes more sense for a movie park to me. Oh now I got to go dig out my old pics!!
How long has that damn hat been there anyway?
It was so much better when you walked into the park and looked down the street at the Chinese Theater. Makes more sense for a movie park to me. Oh now I got to go dig out my old pics!!
How long has that damn hat been there anyway?
Expo_Seeker40
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I'm having hat removal doubts. How do we really know they are going to remove this soon, when it was the Imagineers were just working the mostly Fanboi crowd during the presentation? :shrug
74 (bless him :sohappy helped me understand the sweatshirt mom crowd. These people, increasing by the bus/tram load...go to a Disney park and can't comprehend something unless it has a pixi dust or pixar reference to it. They have no problem with generalized branding, and Disney can get away with doing subpar things because the average guest will think it's great....the "oh they'll love it" approach. :lookaroun
How do we really know they are going to remove this soon, when it was the Imagineers were just working the mostly Fanboi crowd during the presentation? :shrug74 (bless him :sohappy
helped me understand the sweatshirt mom crowd. These people, increasing by the bus/tram load...go to a Disney park and can't comprehend something unless it has a pixi dust or pixar reference to it. They have no problem with generalized branding, and Disney can get away with doing subpar things because the average guest will think it's great....the "oh they'll love it" approach. :lookaroun
jt04
Well-Known Member
Well Orangebird you have made the first coherent case for what has been wrong at WDW IMO. So many management names get thrown out there as the "problem" that it is impossible to tell if someone is making a good case or they are just "axe grinding". And others who trash everything TDO does have lost all credibility with me. But your list is pretty damning and really seems to point to a major problem in the way business is done at WDW. Hopefully folks like Iger/Lasseter/Rohde etc can get things back on track. Thanks for finally making things a bit more clear.
The only thing I disagree with you on is the Nemo overlay at Seas. I thought that was an improvement but......barely.
*Runs away to avoid the Epcot Centerites*
jt04
Well-Known Member
Uh oh. We agree on both points. :lookaroun
Help! I've been hypnotized by 74 or something!:dazzle:
RiversideBunny
New Member
jt04
Well-Known Member
Yes.
They should relocate the Hat to just outside the park entrance.
I agree, just like they relocated the wand just outside the entrance to Epcot :lookaroun:lol:
:wave:
It `opened` late 2001.
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Yes.
They should relocate the Hat to just outside the park entrance.
I agree, I think that would be a better location but it would also work as a winnie for the Animation Courtyard area. Either one is good.
Does anyone else think that they should relocate the Earful tower too so that its more noticable as the park's icon as people enter the park?
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Nope. I think if they said it publicly, it's going to happen. Like a PR.I'm having hat removal doubts.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I am by no means an Eric apologist. But again, I can't blame him for the hat and wand. Everything I've been told has said that TDO and Burbank wanted big, relatively cheap, tacky centerpieces for their marketing campaigns. Was he not supposed to design them?
And wasn't he lead designer on BB? That's a pretty major significant quality addition to WDW. Didn't he also ride herd on Mansion's big time upgrade?
And whether you like Soarin (I do) or LMA (I don't), they are quality additions that again weren't in his control when they were added as part of WDW stealing (or trying to) DL's 50th B-Day.
Wasn't Tom Fitzgerald responsible for Tiki Room? The reason I have often referred to it as 'Tiki Room Under Tom Fitzgerald's Management' is because of how I've heard WDI-types mock it.
As to Stich's Great Belchoff, I heard Rick Rothschild, and budget issues, was largely responsible for that mess.
Again, I'm not looking to defend the guy. He isn't the best WDI has by any stretch.
SirGoofy
Member
You're right on those two points.:wave:
DisneyMusician2
Well-Known Member
Well now that they've ripped pu the backlot tour to a spectacular degree, I think moving the tower might not be such a bad idea, if such a thing were even possible. I'm not sure it is.
SirGoofy
Member
It`s very possible; unlike real studio towers for holding fire fighting water, the DHS version is empty and purely for show.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I'm having hat removal doubts.
74 (bless him :sohappy
Again, just go back to the post I pulled from Micechat.
Disney has conditioned/developed/nurtured a whole set of fans who are diametrically opposed to those of us who were conditioned/developed/nurtured from say 1955-1996 (or so).
What the 'new' group of fans believe is Disney quality is something very different from what the rest of us grew up with. It's sad that even the newbies who do get it only know 'old Disney' from DVDs, pics, our accounts ... oh ... and pins and retro merchandise.
'New' fans think Disney is about giant cartoon hats, character meals everwhere, Hidden Mickeys, pin lanyards etc ... Al Lutz has called them Defenders of Mediocrity and I'd largely agree.
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
I think a water tower in the center of the park would look kind of dumb. And I also think that The Hat is too large for an Animation Courtyard Weenie or for the entrance of the park. The Hat looks fine and IMO would be fine if they were to just get rid of the Pin Station underneath. There is no reason The Hat needs to be anything besides The Hat.
Nothing wrong with enjoying Hidden Mickeys, collecting pins, or my Mickey Santa Ears that I wear at the parks during the holidays. Not all marketing schemes are bad ones.
Figment632
New Member
Why not put it some where in DTD?
