Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
So it’s a matter of perspective - glass half full and all that.*Marginally suitable
So it’s a matter of perspective - glass half full and all that.*Marginally suitable
Less expensive to build on than marginally unsuitable. The area is designated long term expansion.So it’s a matter of perspective - glass half full and all that.
There’s also land designated Marginally Suitable. That’s mostly the land behind Tiana’s.*Marginally suitable
You have to remember how they look at the parks now. Attractions have a dollar signs on them and they expect ROI for every inch of a park. So something like Muppets, Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island don't generate revenue in terms of LL so they had to go.I think there will be challenges to build anything in a place that's been around for over 50 years. But WDW is apparently choosing to raze and build, rather than expand and build, which reflects more of their "replacement" instead of "addition" posture for the past several years, rather than insurmountable structural or civil challenges of one option versus another.
Indeed. The highest res version is more detailed.There’s also land designated Marginally Suitable. That’s mostly the land behind Tiana’s.
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If I was in that predicament it would be foolish to run continue to run up the credit card debt just to go on vacation. Not rocket science to figure that out . Staycation and picking up a part time job while being on paid company vacation from your full time employer is one way to help pay down debt but that requires sacrifice and a change of mindset.Disney world is too expensive for the average family to afford. Inflation is making many American families worry about groceries and feeding their family. So many families have stopped paying on their cc debt and other debt and are really in survival mode right now.
That said, 4k at Disney world vs a royal Caribbean cruise / you can have a great cruise experience with all inclusive food and spend less than 3k for a week , compared to 4 days at Disney world which could run you north of 4k.
The only area I can really comment on is the whole "Marginally Unsuitable for Development" thing.Love the discussion!!! @marni1971 @Master Yoda to add in info if possible!! Marie
…you wouldn’t suggest someone called to put their thumb on the scale, would you?I'm sure it's a coincidence. But the TEA/AECOM website that used to say "2023 report coming soon" got wiped around 5 pm today, and now just shows the 2022 report.
The old page for the last few months:
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The current page as of tonight:
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…you wouldn’t suggest someone called to put their thumb on the scale, would you?
…I tend never to believe in “coincidence”Nope. I’m told it’s just a staffing issue and I believe it.
Did we get those numbers yet?Nope. I’m told it’s just a staffing issue and I believe it.
Did we get those numbers yet?
In all seriousness, and honestly this is probably a very premature question to be asking, but will all of these attractions and changes really fix WDW's attendance problem? Not even just from an attendance standpoint, but between paying for LL, still a total lack of perks and reduced value for the cost of a wdw vacation. Is this enough? I know we are years away from even the first of these announcements to open, but in Disney's eyes for them is it as simple as, "hey look at all these new big flashy rides we just built!" and the masses will start flooding WDW again? Will they see these attractions as an increased perceived value to the cost which will obviously be much higher by the time all this opens. I mean we know that Tron, Cosmic Rewind and TBA, and the entire Epcot "Transformation" didn't bring in the numbers that they were hoping for. Yes it's a necessity at this point for wdw overall to get some serious investment and hopefully added capacity. But I am curious to see how it all plays out over the next 5-8 years.
Seems like someone forgot about the Fantasmic theatre , walkways area at DHS. That area has be deader than a door nail during the day for a few decades.You have to remember how they look at the parks now. Attractions have a dollar signs on them and they expect ROI for every inch of a park. So something like Muppets, Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island don't generate revenue in terms of LL so they had to go.
Right?? I have discussed this with a friend and we, just off the top of the head, named a few different areas that have been abandoned for the longest time and could be repurposed. I dont know if it would be easy or not but with the fact that this park needs so many more attractions to get people in the door, it is worth looking at. MarieSeems like someone forgot about the Fantasmic theatre , walkways area at DHS. That area has be deader than a door nail during the day for a few decades.
LOLI keep hearing how slow the parks are but I watch a lot of ride videos while working and they seem as busy as ever to me.
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