Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[HauntedPirate]

Tinfoil hat securely on my head -

It makes you wonder the forecasts (hah, forecasts from Iger) about lower attendance, was it put out there for the public to say, "Hey Iger said attendance is down so we should go RIGHT NOW while its less crowded"

Its either that or all the broken attractions and the totally broken Lighting Lane system making it feel crowded.

Removing non-attraction things to do tends to make the walkways more full, as does the randomness of reserving ride times instead of focusing your time on a specific land, for MK purposes, and instead zig-zagging across the park (trust me, we did plenty of this in the paper FP days as well and it irritated us then, too), which was never the intent.

 

[Disstevefan1]

All I know is the longer Guardians is on VQ is the closer I get to lapsing my AP.

I can go to SeaWorld whenever I want and ride Mako multiple times with no wait. I can't even ride the rides I want to at Disney without being shook down for money. I'll try this new Fastpass system and then most likely switch to Universal if things don't change. It's clear regardless of attendance level, locals are not cared about.

There are a lot of SeaWorld haters out there, but I really enjoy SeaWorld.

 

[Trauma]

I wish I was a moron billionaire

I could even afford a trip to Disney

Maybe even a couple LL’s and a cupcake!!

 

[Lilofan]

There are a lot of SeaWorld haters out there, but I really enjoy SeaWorld.

I like Sea World but one visit when feeding the dolphins from our ledge back in the day , Flipper bit my hand and it hurt!

 

[Dranth]

Yeah those moron billionaires.

Some are and some aren't, just like everyone else.

In this case Perlmutter bought out Marvel when it was in financial ruin and then proceeded to drive it further into the ground. Dumb luck and desperation saved Marvel.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Some are and some aren't, just like everyone else.

In this case Perlmutter bought out Marvel when it was in financial ruin and then proceeded to drive it further into the ground. Dumb luck and desperation saved Marvel.

Keeping Feige on-board the MCU didn't hurt, either.

 

[wannabeBelle]

Just as a comparison: https://cruiseindustrynews.com/crui...an-reports-2024-q2-earnings-dividend-is-back/
The part that was interesting to me for Royal Caribbean: Net Income for the second quarter of 2024 was $854 million or $3.11 per share compared to Net Income of $459 million or $1.70 per share for the same period in the prior year. Adjusted Net Income was $882 million or $3.21 per share for the second quarter of 2024 compared to Adjusted Net Income of $492 million or $1.82 per share for the same period in the prior year.
Looks like people are still spending money on vacations.
Marie

 

[GhostHost1000]

Just as a comparison: https://cruiseindustrynews.com/crui...an-reports-2024-q2-earnings-dividend-is-back/
The part that was interesting to me for Royal Caribbean: Net Income for the second quarter of 2024 was $854 million or $3.11 per share compared to Net Income of $459 million or $1.70 per share for the same period in the prior year. Adjusted Net Income was $882 million or $3.21 per share for the second quarter of 2024 compared to Adjusted Net Income of $492 million or $1.82 per share for the same period in the prior year.
Looks like people are still spending money on vacations.
Marie

that explains the record number of people going through MCO but not record crowds at the Orlando theme parks

offering a shuttle to the port might be a good business to get into

 

[HauntedPirate]

"Nearly four in ten (39%) of US adults say they worry most or all of the time that their family’s income won’t be enough to meet expenses, according to a new CNN poll. That’s up from 28% who expressed those concerns in December 2021, and it’s similar to the numbers seen during the Great Recession (37%).

To cope, significant shares of Americans said they are adding side jobs, cutting down on driving and putting more expenses on credit cards."

Obviously higher and higher prices at the parks is the way to go if Disney wants to make lots of money... right?

 

[GhostHost1000]

"Nearly four in ten (39%) of US adults say they worry most or all of the time that their family’s income won’t be enough to meet expenses, according to a new CNN poll. That’s up from 28% who expressed those concerns in December 2021, and it’s similar to the numbers seen during the Great Recession (37%).

To cope, significant shares of Americans said they are adding side jobs, cutting down on driving and putting more expenses on credit cards."

Obviously higher and higher prices at the parks is the way to go if Disney wants to make lots of money... right?

according to some on here, this is all a part of their plan. Think we'll see record profits at the parks in the next quarterly?

 

[Grimley1968]

"Nearly four in ten (39%) of US adults say they worry most or all of the time that their family’s income won’t be enough to meet expenses, according to a new CNN poll. That’s up from 28% who expressed those concerns in December 2021, and it’s similar to the numbers seen during the Great Recession (37%).

To cope, significant shares of Americans said they are adding side jobs, cutting down on driving and putting more expenses on credit cards."

Obviously higher and higher prices at the parks is the way to go if Disney wants to make lots of money... right?

I'd bet those 39% of people would also say that if they're going to spend or go into debt on luxuries like vacations, there had better be plenty of value for the money spent.

Continually raising prices (understandable in an inflationary period) while at the same time not increasing or even reducing value (inexcusable IMO) is certainly not going to endear WDW in the future to those 39%.

 

[marni1971]

In answer to the original question, yes.

 

[drew81]

In answer to the original question, yes.

This.

 

[HauntedPirate]

In answer to the original question, yes.

Interesting. You are good at guessing...

 

[HauntedPirate]

I'd bet those 39% of people would also say that if they're going to spend or go into debt on luxuries like vacations, there had better be plenty of value for the money spent.

Continually raising prices (understandable in an inflationary period) while at the same time not increasing or even reducing value (inexcusable IMO) is certainly not going to endear WDW in the future to those 39%.

Bob believes his own lies. He thinks there is an unlimited pool of whales ready, willing, and able to drop tens of thousands of dollars in the swamps in perpetuity.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Bob believes his own lies. He thinks there is an unlimited pool of whales ready, willing, and able to drop tens of thousands of dollars in the swamps in perpetuity.

or in the woods for those that buy into the fort wilderness dvc trailers

 

[Dranth]

or in the woods for those that buy into the fort wilderness dvc trailers

Don't think I will ever understand the execution on that one. Never should have been turned into DVC to start with but those maintenance fees are just absurd.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Don't think I will ever understand the execution on that one. Never should have been turned into DVC to start with but those maintenance fees are just absurd.

Bob thinks he can continue suckering in people to DVC at any resort, any tier, and with any theming and amenities

 

[Disstevefan1]

Don't think I will ever understand the execution on that one. Never should have been turned into DVC to start with but those maintenance fees are just absurd.

I think the old "cabins" were scheduled to be renovated so instead of renovating them, they ripped them out and replaced them with IKEA prefabs and called them DVC, so the costs are under DVC.

 

[John park hopper]

Disney stock crawled up to 90.10 slid back down to 89.62