How could Disney Enhance the Bus Ride experience

juniorthomas

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Original Poster
This would be awesome. And it's very doable with their system....they just don't want to invest the money.

Their Magic in Motion computer system can do a LOT of things, but they're hardly using it at all. The citybus system at my former college now has LED signs at each major stop with the estimated arrival time of the next bus on any given "loop". And those drivers never radio in for directions or to get their next destination. They look down at their screen and see it, and their marquee changes automatically.

If Disney were to improve the bus system at all, for me it would simply be to make use of their technology and streamline the system. A large one-time expenditure on the right software and programming could save them thousands of dollars paying drivers to sit in "holding", and would also improve guest satisfaction. Kill the two most important birds with one stone.

Makes a lot of sense. And if money is the only thing that motivates TDO, if they pick up park guests sooner, they'll be back in the parks spending money instead of waiting at a bus stop.

Someone mentioned it a few posts ago - but knowing which bus stops are empty and which ones are packed would streamline the process and get people in and out of the parks considerably quicker.
 
Buses

1) Huge busses with bathrooms and plush seats for those staying at Deluxe Resorts.
2) Typical Disney busses for those who stay at moderate resorts.
3) Hay wagons for value resort guests
4) Rick-shaws for those who camp on Disney property.

Of course I'm just kidding.:lol:

I'd like to see more ID checking by the drivers. I see a LOT of people who aren't staying on property get on the buses at Downtown Disney. and in spite of what a lot of people think, according to Disney rules, non Disney staying guests are NOT Allowed access to Disney busses.

I'd also like to see some sort of electronic board at bus stops that would tell me when the next bus arrives to whatever destination I'm going to. It would be nice if I went to a bus stop and saw a board telling me that the next bus to Animal Kingdom would be arriving in 15 minutes. That way I could run into the resort for a cup of coffee and/or use the bathroom knowing I had time to spare before my bus arrived.

What a good idea for drivers to check ID --there could be some form of scanner by the driver for WDW resort guests to check their room keys on. then non disney resort guests wouldn`t be able to use the buses!!
Also--yes an electronic board would be cool--like you say we`d know when to expect the bus!!
 

flavious27

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I'm - wait for it - on board with this idea.

Ditto, they could have one of buses for each resort, for their MK run.

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Imagine that not only in disney livery but also with the name of the resort splash on it. Also, an extra CM would be hanging off the back.
 

juniorthomas

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Original Poster
Ditto, they could have one of buses for each resort, for their MK run.

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Imagine that not only in disney livery but also with the name of the resort splash on it. Also, an extra CM would be hanging off the back.

I like it, if only because it means we'll get more people to and from the parks. (Of course loading times would be significantly longer.)

And having a Donald Trump-ish like CM on the back is just a solid win.
 

flavious27

Well-Known Member
I like it, if only because it means we'll get more people to and from the parks. (Of course loading times would be significantly longer.)

And having a Donald Trump-ish like CM on the back is just a solid win.

Well the doors / opening in the back can be used for loading the second level. Disney could have the drivers and cms for these buses using a different costume.
 

MAF

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There needs to be stricter rules for strollers and ECV's. They need to get rid of the policy of letting someone ride up on an ECV at the last minute and then allow their entire party to skip the lines. As for strollers, I've seen idiots who set their huge strollers across seats, forcing others to stand. If its too big to safely hold in front of you folded, then you shouldn't be allowed on the bus, period.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
There needs to be stricter rules for strollers and ECV's. They need to get rid of the policy of letting someone ride up on an ECV at the last minute and then allow their entire party to skip the lines. As for strollers, I've seen idiots who set their huge strollers across seats, forcing others to stand. If its too big to safely hold in front of you folded, then you shouldn't be allowed on the bus, period.

Here here.

Personally I think they should ban all strollers from all public conveyances. Go back to the good old days where children walked and when they got too tired you went home. In extreme circumstances parents would rent a stroller from the park.
 

Tom

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here here.

Personally i think they should ban all strollers from all public conveyances. Go back to the good old days where children walked and when they got too tired you went home. In extreme circumstances parents would rent a stroller from the park.

a....men
 

Gator

Active Member
The biggest complaint of the bus system is that it often is slow. So if you fix that, you improve the experience.

I'd set up a swipe system, like a time card system. Put it at the bus stop. Everyone has a room key, so they come to the bus line, swipe, and press #1 for MK, #2 for Epcot, etc. This let's the primary dispatch know who needs what. That way, when you've been waiting for 30 minutes for that bus ride to DHS, you don't see 3 empty DD buses fly by. They can easily be diverted to DHS, and then dispatched back to their regulary route. Seems easy enough.
 

Tom

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The biggest complaint of the bus system is that it often is slow. So if you fix that, you improve the experience.

I'd set up a swipe system, like a time card system. Put it at the bus stop. Everyone has a room key, so they come to the bus line, swipe, and press #1 for MK, #2 for Epcot, etc. This let's the primary dispatch know who needs what. That way, when you've been waiting for 30 minutes for that bus ride to DHS, you don't see 3 empty DD buses fly by. They can easily be diverted to DHS, and then dispatched back to their regulary route. Seems easy enough.

I'm trying to think of ways that the everyday guest could FUBAR this, and I'm struggling. I like this idea. It trumps my idea of having CCTV cameras at every stop, which would allow dispatchers to see crowds at each stop. However, that would only work at the parks, because each bus stop is for a specific destination. They could implement YOUR system at the resorts themselves...and for guests who are just touring resorts or dining, they could also swipe their park tickets to validate themselves.

Anyone who doesn't have a park ticket or room key can just sit and wait for a bus that's going to their destination. That population would be pretty small though.

Regardless, they seriously need a way of knowing how many people are queued up for buses at individual bus stations. Because right now, the "guy in the white van" is NOT cutting it.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm trying to think of ways that the everyday guest could FUBAR this, and I'm struggling

There aren't necessarily good ways of 'resetting' demand. Is it just when the next bus gets there? how do you know the bus was able to actually take everyone who was waiting?

Plus, not all guests have room keys.. (so now you have ticket media to use..) and do you expect every person in the party to swipe their card? That's a disaster.. and you can't just let guests enter how many in their party.. they'll abuse it.

'Per Person' queue monitoring is problematic and overly complex. Disney just needs to monitor frequency of stops, and monitor when there is abnormal demand that is overloading their normal capacity planned.

They already have dynamic capacity handling and can add remove/buses as needed.

As long as they have regular stops - the best data collector is already available.. the human bus operators. Bus operators can simply provide feedback to the system that there may be abnormal queues, or pass customer complaints simply with location/destination info which dispatch can match against known activity.

It trumps my idea of having CCTV cameras at every stop, which would allow dispatchers to see crowds at each stop. However, that would only work at the parks, because each bus stop is for a specific destination. They could implement YOUR system at the resorts themselves...and for guests who are just touring resorts or dining, they could also swipe their park tickets to validate themselves.

Anyone who doesn't have a park ticket or room key can just sit and wait for a bus that's going to their destination. That population would be pretty small though.

Regardless, they seriously need a way of knowing how many people are queued up for buses at individual bus stations. Because right now, the "guy in the white van" is NOT cutting it.

Why do they need to know exactly how many people are there? Attempts to try to make the system a true 'one to one' demand->capacity system will simply not be effective.

The demand system should be there to help provide feedback to the system when the normal routes are not functioning well.

You could take a simplier approach then the 'per person' model and simply have someone activate a indictator saying 'we want to goto AK' and that stays active until an AK bus arrives. But that would likely be a better reporting tool then it would be to better service day to day.. because unless you are trying to make buses 'one to one' with demand, you're going to say 'well there is another AK loop bus due to 10mins' and leave it at that. The feedback would be useful to alert things like abnormally long waits, 'back to back' waits (which would show higher demand then capacity), etc.

Simple is almost always better in these cases when it comes to 'user input'. Keep the guest input brain dead simple... keep the bus operator input simple so they can do it quickly and efficently.
 

DisneyJoe

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Once the ticket media / KTTW cards have RFID (nextgen) chips in them, couldn't their signals be picked up at each bus stop and that info relayed to the dispatcher?

No swiping needed.
 

dixiegirl

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Gotta say I second that! we've been there with the strollers, but we've done the small umbrella ones....Still, love the people that don't get , yes the child has to come out of it before you get on the bus, yes even if he or she is sleeping! Love the people that huff and puff over this! And i can comment on it cause I've been to Disney with a child who is one and every year after!! Please people "take them out" Your not singled out! Although i give credit to those who go to disney with a triplet stroller, GOD BLESS YOU is all I can say!
 

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