Hall of Presidents

sillyspook13

Well-Known Member
I thought there was some talk of changing the film entirely... Creating almost an entire new plot.

Do we know that's not happening? Seems like a LONG shut down to spit and polish and existing show. It's like, 10 months.

Maybe they're really doing something different with the whole presentation. :shrug:

Everything I've read calls it a major change to the format of the show. I haven't seen anything more specific than that. It could mean simply a change to digital format audio and film, or a change of the format of the entire plot.

I agree, July seems like a long time from now if they're only adding an animatronic and switching out some projectors.:shrug:
 

JerseySkiddie

New Member
I love HoP and I'm happy to see it get a little lovin' over the next few months. Whether you like the sitting president or not it is still a patriotic and worthwhile presentation. It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to be American, but at least it doesn't make me cry like American Adventure!

Lou over at wdwradio just featured HoP on his podcast last week. You just may here a lovely jersey girl (ahem ME!) discussing it with him.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
Hey hold up on the attitude.

Its been proven time and time again over the last 10 years that people are incapable of discussing politics without it turning into an argument. This site is not about politics, its about Disney. The moderators have much better things to do than to constantly patrol political threads and continuously tell people to stop insulting each other.

Allowing political discusion is an even better way to lose readers - as people get very very upset over the slightest political talk that doesnt fit with their beliefs.

I am not showing any attitude.

I also don't go to Disney sites to discuss politics. But I do think you can really err on the side of caution and then there's no discussion at all.

The Hall of Presidents IS a political attraction. I don't know how you get around that fact.

What if someone started a thread about the American Adventure (the finest theme park show ever built IMHO) and what should or shouldn't be included in that.

Would you make that thread disappear?

Maybe a thread on the late Golden Dreams at DCA ... that certainly is a historical and political-tinged attraction. So so should that be off limits?

Believe me, I understand you not wanting political back-and-forths and the heated crap that often can come with them.

But there comes a point where I think you have to let somethings go.

Disney has an attraction that is based on the office of President. They have decided to let the current president (and last and next) speak. That is a very fair and valid topic for discussion on a site like this.

This thread was fine except for one very crude remark from a single poster. That post should have been removed and the poster either warned or removed from the site. But anything else was/is overkill.

I can tell you as someone who used to be a regular on Micechat that when they started cracking down on innocuous comments they lost a lot of posters. It's now mostly dead over there because they're afraid someone might get offended.

If people get offended by Disney message board posts they probably need to seek professional help.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
That all may be true, but please re-read what Steve had posted. This is a Disney thread, and the site is private with published rules. This is not a site to discuss free speech or politics, K?

And I'll just repeat what I've said ... the HoP is a political attraction (as is the American Adventure).

Are they off limits except for 'I love that show' type of comments?

And there is nothing wrong with having rules of conduct on a site such as this, but I find it incredibly ironic that you don't feel free speech is part of a discussion board where people engage in just that.
 

Disney_Freak429

New Member
I am going to post acording to it being simply the HoP & nothing else. For one thing I do believe that Obama should have a speaking role & I would have said the same no matter who won because no matter who you feel the current president should be he needs to be a decent part of the HoP period. Anyone who feels they need to say things that are not proper while being inside the HoP should be kicked out of the park. Like said before there is no reason to state your fellings towards these people in that setting (or this one either). As far as upgrades the HoP deserves the love it is about to get. The digital projection & longer spotlights for the roll call are both very welcome & very much needed.
 

WildcatDen

Well-Known Member
And I'll just repeat what I've said ... the HoP is a political attraction (as is the American Adventure).

Are they off limits except for 'I love that show' type of comments?

And there is nothing wrong with having rules of conduct on a site such as this, but I find it incredibly ironic that you don't feel free speech is part of a discussion board where people engage in just that.

Dude, do you even read your own posts. The "Stale" thread has multiple little bashings of the current POTUS. Did you think no one would notice?
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
Hmmm... Now I remember where I read about the show changing... His name rhymes with Schwimm Schill. :lookaroun

From a March 3 article:

"Now before all of you "Hall of Presidents" fans (all three of you) get irate ... Let me stress that this isn't just a case of take away. The way I hear it, the Imagineers are actually planning on adding something new to this Magic Kingdom classic. To be specific, creating a moment in this show where that AA version of Abraham Lincoln would then stand up and recite the Gettysburg Address.
Okay. To be fair, this new Gettysburg Address sequence that WDI is now considering adding to "The Hall of Presidents" ? It isn't exactly new. This scene was actually created for that revised version of "Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln" which opened at Disneyland back in July of 2001. So what we're really talking about here is an artful bit of recycling on Imagineering's part. Freshening up this tired old WDW show by sending a relatively new chunk of an Anaheim-based attraction back east.
That said ... Walt Disney World has set aside a fairly large amount of money for this upcoming redo of "The Hall of President." Though -- to be truthful -- a lot of this dough will be dedicated toward making this 36-year-old show building that much more wheelchair & electric convenience vehicle - friendly. "

But then people on this thread earlier said Washington is going to get the speaking part. So which will it be?

I thought I had read somewhere else, also, that the changes with regard to the movie were going to make the show completely free of any possibility of partisianship. That it would strictly be about the JOB of the office of the President of the US.

I guess we'll see. :shrug: I'm for anything to spruce up the show and make it interesting and inspirational again... Including shortening the show from 22 1/2 minutes to 15, like he also reports.
 

Raven66

Well-Known Member
My DH loves the HOP. He was really bummed when he found out that it will be closed for our upcoming trip. But on the other hand he can't wait to see the finished product.
 

Vernonpush

Well-Known Member
From the Orlando Sentinal:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disney3108oct31,0,481688.story

"To make room for a new, robotic version of the 44th president of the United States, Disney will close the 37-year-old Hall of Presidents after today for an extended refurbishment. The show will stay shuttered for more than eight months so Disney can update the hall's aging light, sound, mechanical, projection and show systems, just as the company has done in recent years with other "classic" Magic Kingdom attractions such as It's A Small World, Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion.

"We're about to get a new president. And so, since we have to shut down the show anyway to welcome No. 44, we're going to take the opportunity to . . . refurbish the attractions and the facility and also kind of wave the magic wand around a little bit," said Pam Fisher, senior show writer for Walt Disney Imagineering.

Updating a '70s show

First envisioned by Walt Disney in the early 1960s, the show premiered when the Magic Kingdom opened Oct. 1, 1971. In an auditorium, visitors view a 10-minute, panoramic film of American history. The film projects, onto five screens, narrated images of paintings produced by Disney artists in the styles of American masters, from John Trumbull to Norman Rockwell. When the film ends and the screens rise, people see a large stage where life-size, robotic figures of every U.S. president are grouped, standing or sitting, for a roll call and a couple of speeches.

The show has always featured a speech by the Lincoln figure. In the 1990s, Disney began adding a second speech by the current president. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush recorded their addresses, and Disney hopes to entice the next president to do the same.
"We'll do everything in our power to make it so," Fisher said. "We've been really lucky so far. It is quite an experience to arrive in the White House and actually be present when the president records his speech for the Hall of Presidents."

When the show reopens next year July 4, a third figure, George Washington, will also be given a speaking part.
Like many Disney theme-park attractions dating from the 1950s through the early '70s, the Hall of Presidents' artwork was created by renowned Disney artists such as Herb Ryman, Sam McKim and John DeCuir. The 70mm film projectors will be replaced with digital-video projection systems, which should give the presentation fresh boldness and clarity, Fisher said.All of the presidents' faces were sculpted by Disney artist Blaine Gibson. But he's 90 years old and, though he remains involved, he is handing off the job of sculpting the 44th president to prot�g� Valerie Edwards.


Better view of presidents

The attraction's technology upgrades should improve the view of Gibson's (and Edwards') work as well. As the narrator introduces each president, a spotlight shines briefly on that figure, which waves or nods. But the presidents are randomly arranged, the introductions pass quickly, and the spotlights flit about, so some viewers have a hard time following the progression. With LED lighting, 21st-century controls and a longer spotlight for each president, it should become easier for the audience to tell John Tyler from James K. Polk."That is my No. 1 dream and hope of the show: to make the introduction of the presidents easier to follow," Fisher said. "We think that's really the highlight of the show."
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Clearly you don't go on it as much as I do. Yea, not so much applause for the last guy lately.


I'm seriously excited about this! I have to be one of the few who love Hall of Presidents and I'm SO ready for the new AA, Upgraded sound system in the awesome theatre, and the digital restoration of a WDW Classic!


-imitates opening sound-


WE...

WE THE PEOPLE.


Yeah, I was there in 2001, 2002.:lookaroun:lol:

EPCOT has gotten my day trips since then.:lookaroun:lol:
I experienced HOP several times over the past two summers and, unfortunately, I did not share your experience. On several occasions, there were some very inappropriate things shouted during George W. Bush's speech. Now, disagreeing with a President's policies is one thing, but yelling out profanity in a theme park attraction with kids around is something entirely different.
Yow. That stinks.
Obamatronic?

Maybe just "The Obamatron". Yes, let's go to the Hall of Presidents and see "The Obamatron".


. . . :lookaroun . . .



Hey, Ben Franklin does it, why not Washington?


:D:sohappy:
Now we just need some stairs.:D
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
From the Orlando Sentinal:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disney3108oct31,0,481688.story

"To make room for a new, robotic version of the 44th president of the United States, Disney will close the 37-year-old Hall of Presidents after today for an extended refurbishment. The show will stay shuttered for more than eight months so Disney can update the hall's aging light, sound, mechanical, projection and show systems, just as the company has done in recent years with other "classic" Magic Kingdom attractions such as It's A Small World, Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion.

"We're about to get a new president. And so, since we have to shut down the show anyway to welcome No. 44, we're going to take the opportunity to . . . refurbish the attractions and the facility and also kind of wave the magic wand around a little bit," said Pam Fisher, senior show writer for Walt Disney Imagineering.

Updating a '70s show

First envisioned by Walt Disney in the early 1960s, the show premiered when the Magic Kingdom opened Oct. 1, 1971. In an auditorium, visitors view a 10-minute, panoramic film of American history. The film projects, onto five screens, narrated images of paintings produced by Disney artists in the styles of American masters, from John Trumbull to Norman Rockwell. When the film ends and the screens rise, people see a large stage where life-size, robotic figures of every U.S. president are grouped, standing or sitting, for a roll call and a couple of speeches.

The show has always featured a speech by the Lincoln figure. In the 1990s, Disney began adding a second speech by the current president. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush recorded their addresses, and Disney hopes to entice the next president to do the same.
"We'll do everything in our power to make it so," Fisher said. "We've been really lucky so far. It is quite an experience to arrive in the White House and actually be present when the president records his speech for the Hall of Presidents."

When the show reopens next year July 4, a third figure, George Washington, will also be given a speaking part.
Like many Disney theme-park attractions dating from the 1950s through the early '70s, the Hall of Presidents' artwork was created by renowned Disney artists such as Herb Ryman, Sam McKim and John DeCuir. The 70mm film projectors will be replaced with digital-video projection systems, which should give the presentation fresh boldness and clarity, Fisher said.All of the presidents' faces were sculpted by Disney artist Blaine Gibson. But he's 90 years old and, though he remains involved, he is handing off the job of sculpting the 44th president to prot�g� Valerie Edwards.


Better view of presidents

The attraction's technology upgrades should improve the view of Gibson's (and Edwards') work as well. As the narrator introduces each president, a spotlight shines briefly on that figure, which waves or nods. But the presidents are randomly arranged, the introductions pass quickly, and the spotlights flit about, so some viewers have a hard time following the progression. With LED lighting, 21st-century controls and a longer spotlight for each president, it should become easier for the audience to tell John Tyler from James K. Polk."That is my No. 1 dream and hope of the show: to make the introduction of the presidents easier to follow," Fisher said. "We think that's really the highlight of the show."

:sohappy::sohappy:

This is gonna (Ba-)RAWK!:D:D:lol:

But where are the touchscreens?:lookaroun
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
Do you think they'll be able to get George Washington to voice his own speech?

I've seen him in lots of old movies during film days in school, so I know he has acting experience. And did you ever see 1776? He can sing real good, too. :lookaroun
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Do you think they'll be able to get George Washington to voice his own speech?

I've seen him in lots of old movies during film days in school, so I know he has acting experience. And did you ever see 1776? He can sing real good, too. :lookaroun
BEST MUSICAL EVARRRRR!:eek:
:sohappy::sohappy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Tiar8FqXU&feature=related

Washington was not in it though...Only the members of the congress.


EDIT:
OK..Why can't I embed?:fork:
 

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