Expo_Seeker40
Well-Known Member
of course of course
OK..this thread has gotten far too outta hand!!
Agent86--No. I don't think that out of the blue people started to line up and complain about WDW. I know that there are some things that are going downhill, as people on here like to say. BUT, all I'M saying is that sometimes people complain a lil too much!!!
I think that there's a BIG difference in complaining and "complaining". Lemme explain:
The first complaint is usually reasonable because it gives us others lovers of Disney to be aware of certain changes, whether good or bad. It's usually a need-to-know or in-case-you-didn't-know discussion, which I'm perfectly fine with. I even occasionally tell the OP thank you for letting us know.
The second complaint is usually the people who are NEVER happy/satisfied with any Disney or anyone else does. No matter what Disney/person(s)/company(s) do for the people, they're never happy with it. THESE are the people that I'M talking about!!!
The OP for this thread did not intend on it to go like this. Why can't people post how their day went and how they found no problems at all without someone/people jumping on their parade?!?:shrug::shrug: I'm sorry!1 But, I'd be a lil defensive too if someone attacked me for me being nieve about ALL the wrong about Disney. What about ALL the RIGHT?!?!? And for us visitors, who can only come once a year, we only see what's right because we're not trying to be burden with all the wrong of Disney and what they're not doing.
Everyone does have a right to state their opinion. And yes, I do understand that if you didn't care, you wouldn't complain about it. But why do it on a thread where all the OP was saying is that they had a great time and had nothing to complain about?!?!? That I JUST DON'T GET!!!:drevil:
And don't forget about the "Generally Indifferent Otakus who like MST3K"
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As a fellow "koolaid drinker"..Since it seems like certain poster(s) like to pick on me so much, I'm going to say this: I'm going to agree to disagree.
Some of you are getting way into it and are starting to be rude and it's getting ugly. I have my opinion and you have yours. Not once have I stated that anyone on here was wrong about how they felt, but I'm constantly getting told that I don't care much about the place because I don't understand it's inner workings or how it used to be. That may be true, to a point. I DO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT DISNEY!!!!:wave:
But, I'm not going to sit here and let someone tell me that because I "may not understand the inner workings", that means I basically don't give a hoot about Disney or its products/services/etc. That's very far from the truth!!!
NO ONE seems to get what I was saying in the first place and I'm not going to say it again because, seriously?!?!:shrug: What's the point??
So...to the OP...I thank you for posting that you had an awesome time and I'm glad you didn't see anything wrong while you were there. Obviously, you and I, as well as others, are in the same boat as not caring because we're not pointing out the faults...or at least the major ones:zipit:
I understand what you were trying to say and I appreciate it. Maybe next time, other posters won't read so much into a title or maybe you could've worded it differently, which I'm sure someone has already said something to you about it. I hope my vacation is as wonderful and "fault-free" as yours!!!!:ROFLOL::sohappy:
I don't believe anyone who posts here actually "hates" Disney, but I do believe that the so-called "complainers" are typically the ones who seem to genuinely understand what Disney is supposed to be about, and are also the ones who seem to actually have a deeper love for it. But when people defend the unacceptable behavior of the rare CM who is not doing his/her job, or say they "don't care" about the little details such as holiday napkins in summer months or burned out light bulbs, or when they accept rides like Everest as being in the same caliber of Disney's best attractions... then it's those people that I think don't really truly understand Disney, and consequently cannot have the same level of appreciation for it.
As a fellow "koolaid drinker"..
This thread has not gotten out of hand at all..and no one has been rude or ugly at all..:shrug:
If you think this thread is rude and ugly..stick around..there can be some that really get out of hand and turn really ugly..this one has been handled very nicely.
Are you reading all the posts in this thread?
Alos from the way this thread is titled..it was calling people out..there is no way that can be denied..all you have to do is read it.
kcnole, this is what I was talking about. (Sorry if I spelled your name wrong!! I'm going off of memory!!) To me, that's just rude, unless I'm taking it the wrong way. Maybe someone can explain it to me. But just because I or others may not "totally" understand Disney, doesn't mean that we don't appreciate it. This is what I meant by saying people were being rude/mean/whatever
It is not rude..I just think you do not understand...kcnole, this is what I was talking about. (Sorry if I spelled your name wrong!! I'm going off of memory!!) To me, that's just rude, unless I'm taking it the wrong way. Maybe someone can explain it to me. But just because I or others may not "totally" understand Disney, doesn't mean that we don't appreciate it. This is what I meant by saying people were being rude/mean/whatever
Thanks..I try..Thank you, Dana. You are being very fair.
Don't use agent86 as an example of the average poster, though.
I don't "totally understand" Disney. I don't work there, I'm no insider and don't pretend to be. If I complain about something, it's because it's in plain sight.
I will however say something if posters complain about chciken and light bulbs..:animwink::lol:
I may have learned a thing or two myself in this thread..and I do not at all give WDW1974 any credit for that..:lookaroun
I was joking..hence the smilies..Ah, the days when there weren't any burned out bulbs on Main Street. :lookaroun
And yet someone brings him back up again. If no one's learning anything from him, or at least seeing things from his side, why is he always being refered too? Hmmmm. :drevil: Although he can come across as a crotchety old coot, he (or she) has many valid points.
I, like everyone here, loves it when I'm at the parks. Look at my signature for crying out loud. I've been there over 30 times in 33 years! It's still my favorite place to be, but that doesn't mean there aren't things that are wrong with it. Some of us just don't like to wander around with rose colored glasses.
I think of the immortal words of Stantler and Wardolf (sp?) in "the Muppets go to Walt Disney World"
"I HATE IT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT! BOOOO! HIIISSS! CLOSE THIS DUMP DOWN!!" :lol:
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I love that special. Put it on DVD Disney!
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kTo me, that's just rude, unless I'm taking it the wrong way. Maybe someone can explain it to me.
Don't use agent86 as an example of the average poster, though.
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