EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

I think the turntable system was also a somewhat small/big part in why the 1983 ride closed. It kind of proved to be too revolutionary for it's own good and it caused many issues with the ride.

Honestly, I disagree, I believe in truth it was all ‘projected’ maintenance costs due to the artificially lowered attendance that truly did it in. The ride usually never had problems with the turntable from what I’ve heard from others and have seen in ride-thru videos. Every once in a while, sometimes due to the ride computer’s job to correct when ride stops would happen every once in a while, sometimes the ride vehicles would try to join/catch-up onto the turntable either too quickly or too late, and this would cause the ride computer to immediately stop the ride to re-sync and correct the issue. Ultimately, the ride wasn’t really “breaking” as some assumed, it was simply doing its job. Though the issue of the minor stops that caused the ride to go out of sync could’ve been easily fixed with today’s technology.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

If anything cost the most on the turntable, it was basically the projection system they had that formed all the mechanical lighting & photo slide effects in the background/sky behind Dreamfinder & Figment’s flying machine. In truth, most of that could now be simplified into one or a couple projectors and most of the effects be digital to cut maintenance costs.

 

[TinkerBelle8878]

If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.

I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.

 

[Nobody nobody]

Figment being kicked out of his own ride is kinda a Disney parks “cannon event” at this point.

I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.

believe me, they would’ve found an IP. They wanted figgy gone. And really did go all in on Roger rabbit. Honestly if the Henson deal went through in the 90s though it probably would’ve been Kermit in all those parades instead of Roger.

 

[Agent H]

Figment being kicked out of his own ride is kinda a Disney parks “cannon event” at this point.

believe me, they would’ve found an IP. They wanted figgy gone. And really did go all in on Roger rabbit.

Which ip do you think it would have been?

 

[Nobody nobody]

Which ip do you think it would have been?

Maybe even none! Kodak wanted imagination to be “hip”

 

[Agent H]

Maybe even none! Kodak wanted imagination to be “hip”

Oh god I don’t wanna know. nothing good ever happens to a Disney park when someone says “I want this to be more hip”

 

[Nobody nobody]

Oh god I don’t wanna know nothing good ever happens to a Disney park when someone says “I want this to be more hip”

how we got Under new management. that’s a story for another thread.
Unironically, for me, my least favorite part of the show is the finale song where nobody sings and it is really obvious that the remaining OG tiki room voice actors cannot sing in the voices anymore and kinda show their age and it all makes me more depressed than it should.

 

[Agent H]

how we got Under new management. that’s a story for another thread.
Unironically, for me, my least favorite part of the show is the finale song where nobody sings and it is really obvious that the remaining OG tiki room voice actors cannot sing in the voices anymore and kinda show their age and it all makes me more depressed than it should.

You have totally lost me please explain

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

You have totally lost me please explain

It’s in relation to the same type of “making thing hip & trendy” mindset that destroyed Journey Into Imagination basically. To the point they even borrowed the same style sign for it, which I shared earlier in this thread

 

[Agent H]

It’s in relation to the same type of “making thing hip & trendy” mindset that destroyed Journey Into Imagination basically. To the point they even borrowed the same style sign for it, which I shared earlier in this thread

I was referring to what he said about the tiki room are they talking about under new management or the current one?

 

[Moth]

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

I was referring to what he said about the tiki room are they talking about under new management or the current one?

Under New Management

 

[Agent H]

Under New Management

I was gonna say I didn’t notice anything thing like that last time I was in the tiki room but it’s possible I was having too much fun

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

It’s in relation to the same type of “making thing hip & trendy” mindset that destroyed Journey Into Imagination basically.

Ah, this is referred to as "The Poochie Theroy"

 

[Zak and Wheezie]

Honestly, I disagree, I believe in truth it was all ‘projected’ maintenance costs due to the artificially lowered attendance that truly did it in. The ride usually never had problems with the turntable from what I’ve heard from others and have seen in ride-thru videos. Every once in a while, sometimes due to the ride computer’s job to correct when ride stops would happen every once in a while, sometimes the ride vehicles would try to join/catch-up onto the turntable either too quickly or too late, and this would cause the ride computer to immediately stop the ride to re-sync and correct the issue. Ultimately, the ride wasn’t really “breaking” as some assumed, it was simply doing its job. Though the issue of the minor stops that caused the ride to go out of sync could’ve been easily fixed with today’s technology.

I got that idea from MartinsVidsDotNet 1999/2002 Figment video, that the turntable system was a bit problematic.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I got that idea from MartinsVidsDotNet 1999/2002 Figment video, that the turntable system was a bit problematic.

It's ok to link to Martin's videos. The few sites that aren't welcome here will have their link asterisked out.

 

[Nobody nobody]

We have all drank figments goofy juice and have a result all started to see martians and spout ramblings in this thread. Maybe we should cool it lol.

 

[Nobody nobody]

After all this silliness lately, I decided
to take a peek through this thread to see how we got to this point, and man seeing all the optimism in 2019, what sweet summer children we were. The first 20+ pages about how Disney “knew it had to be right, they’re doing tons of work, dreamfinder is gonna be a celebrity VA, it’ll do the ride justice” and all the talk of removing the pyramids to make it great, we all seemed so sure of ourselves. And then it was phase two. And then COVID happened. Seeing all that optimism fade over time to where we are now, not gonna lie, was kinda depressing. Here we are, six years later, back at square one. I would say where did it all go wrong, but we kinda know where. At this point I barley feel anything about the future of the pavilion. The same cycle every time. Man.

 

[Zak and Wheezie]

After all this silliness lately, I decided
to take a peek through this thread to see how we got to this point, and man seeing all the optimism in 2019, what sweet summer children we were. The first 20+ pages about how Disney “knew it had to be right, they’re doing tons of work, dreamfinder is gonna be a celebrity VA, it’ll do the ride justice” and all the talk of removing the pyramids to make it great, we all seemed so sure of ourselves. And then it was phase two. And then COVID happened. Seeing all that optimism fade over time to where we are now, not gonna lie, was kinda depressing. Here we are, six years later, back at square one. I would say where did it all go wrong, but we kinda know where. At this point I barley feel anything about the future of the pavilion. The same cycle every time. Man.

Things really can't get any worse than today. (OK, if they brought back the 1999 version they could)