EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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Inspired Figment said:
Indeed.. like.. may I remind you folks that this is the very same park that holds the Candlelight Processional (a choir event, usually hosted by a celebrity speaker that retells the story of the birth of Jesus Christ/the first Christmas) every year, correct? (Fun fact: that event was started by Walt at Disneyland before it eventually made it’s way to EPCOT Center aswell to carry on that tradition) Dreamfinder & Figment are basically a Santa Claus & his Elves equivalent if anything, they continue on the spirit of kindness, generosity & positive inspiration to use God’s gift of creativity/imagination to us to do good in this world with it. All of EPCOT Center was originally designed to be a beacon of hope like this. It’s not God or Jesus themselves, but it certainly continues his spirit of giving people hope & generosity to use our achievements, abilities, etc. to do good & provide good things for our fellow man in whatever field we choose to pursue, to make the world a better place.
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As a high school religion teacher, I have to say you're preaching to the choir here! I'm all for religious symbolism in the parks!
 
Zak and Wheezie

Zak and Wheezie

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I actually got a Figment shirt for Christmas.
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It's too bad they care more about nostalgia merch for 40 somethings than actually doing something with the ride.
 
Zak and Wheezie

Zak and Wheezie

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I actually was thinking, and this is just fiction, but what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react? Kind of "Meet The Robinsons" style.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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Zak and Wheezie said:
I actually was thinking... what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react?
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Probably nothing because they wouldn’t believe you are from the future
 
DreamfinderGuy

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Zak and Wheezie said:
I actually was thinking, and this is just fiction, but what if someone from 2025 time-traveled to early 1998 when they were in the planning stages to close the original ride? Basically show them what would happen, with the backlash and stuff. What would the Disney execs do if they were able to see how people would react? Kind of "Meet The Robinsons" style.
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If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.
 
Zak and Wheezie

Zak and Wheezie

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DreamfinderGuy said:
If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.
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I think the turntable system was also a somewhat small/big part in why the 1983 ride closed. It kind of proved to be too revolutionary for it's own good and it caused many issues with the ride.
 
Inspired Figment

Inspired Figment

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Zak and Wheezie said:
I think the turntable system was also a somewhat small/big part in why the 1983 ride closed. It kind of proved to be too revolutionary for it's own good and it caused many issues with the ride.
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Honestly, I disagree, I believe in truth it was all ‘projected’ maintenance costs due to the artificially lowered attendance that truly did it in. The ride usually never had problems with the turntable from what I’ve heard from others and have seen in ride-thru videos. Every once in a while, sometimes due to the ride computer’s job to correct when ride stops would happen every once in a while, sometimes the ride vehicles would try to join/catch-up onto the turntable either too quickly or too late, and this would cause the ride computer to immediately stop the ride to re-sync and correct the issue. Ultimately, the ride wasn’t really “breaking” as some assumed, it was simply doing its job. Though the issue of the minor stops that caused the ride to go out of sync could’ve been easily fixed with today’s technology.
 
Inspired Figment

Inspired Figment

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If anything cost the most on the turntable, it was basically the projection system they had that formed all the mechanical lighting & photo slide effects in the background/sky behind Dreamfinder & Figment’s flying machine. In truth, most of that could now be simplified into one or a couple projectors and most of the effects be digital to cut maintenance costs.
 
TinkerBelle8878

TinkerBelle8878

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DreamfinderGuy said:
If you were able to believably demonstrate how badly the second ride would have flopped, they would have just built the third ride in 1999. They were dead set on theming the whole pavilion around HISTA, they would have just recognized that killing figment was a bad idea and put Figment in the HISTA ride three years ahead of schedule.
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I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.
 
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Nobody nobody

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Figment being kicked out of his own ride is kinda a Disney parks “cannon event” at this point.
TinkerBelle8878 said:
I'll give you one better, go back further in time, have Honey I shrunk the kids flop at the box office and then at least that retheme is moot. And in that same timeline, build up and market Figment as an iconic Disney character instead of Roger Rabbit.
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believe me, they would’ve found an IP. They wanted figgy gone. And really did go all in on Roger rabbit. Honestly if the Henson deal went through in the 90s though it probably would’ve been Kermit in all those parades instead of Roger.
 
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Nobody nobody

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Agent H said:
Oh god I don’t wanna know nothing good ever happens to a Disney park when someone says “I want this to be more hip”
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how we got Under new management. that’s a story for another thread.
Unironically, for me, my least favorite part of the show is the finale song where nobody sings and it is really obvious that the remaining OG tiki room voice actors cannot sing in the voices anymore and kinda show their age and it all makes me more depressed than it should.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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Nobody nobody said:
how we got Under new management. that’s a story for another thread.
Unironically, for me, my least favorite part of the show is the finale song where nobody sings and it is really obvious that the remaining OG tiki room voice actors cannot sing in the voices anymore and kinda show their age and it all makes me more depressed than it should.
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You have totally lost me please explain
 
Agent H

Agent H

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Inspired Figment said:
It’s in relation to the same type of “making thing hip & trendy” mindset that destroyed Journey Into Imagination basically. To the point they even borrowed the same style sign for it, which I shared earlier in this thread
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I was referring to what he said about the tiki room are they talking about under new management or the current one?
 

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