That is good news, but still nearly double the 3-5 and on the lower end from what I have seen county wise in the large state that Florida is. The Theme parks can't surive well on just Florida alone just as they cannot survive on just half of the counties feeling comfortable about visiting. Other schoolboards will also feel pressure form the ones that make the larger decisions. Maybe it will continue to lower by the time it opens. At least the extra weeks will have more info than we did before. I definitely listen to the pediatritions.
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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
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That is good news, but still nearly double the 3-5 and on the lower end from what I have seen county wise in the large state that Florida is. The Theme parks can't surive well on just Florida alone just as they cannot survive on just half of the counties feeling comfortable about visiting. Other schoolboards will also feel pressure form the ones that make the larger decisions. Maybe it will continue to lower by the time it opens. At least the extra weeks will have more info than we did before. I definitely listen to the pediatritions.
Quackers5000
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Opening certain parks on certain days or cutting daily operating hours even more sounds just like a massive logistical nightmare anyway you cut it. I don’t know if they’ll actually close back down, but their options are rather limited if it is a money saving issue outside of the situation in FL. I suspect it’s going to be tough for awhile for the tourist industry in FL, people aren’t exactly running there now and this would be peak season if it were a normal time of year for the entire state.
They also do not have the support of California or Cruise Lines right now to help when things are bad in another venue like they normally would. Add Hong Kong closed again to the mix and they are really just in financial adversity to say the least.
Polkadotdress
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I don’t know...did you listen in on the school board meeting where they discussed delaying the school start date? Teachers don’t want the date to slide any more, as it causes them to be without pay longer. And, one of the school board members was adamant that school start in the fall, no matter what.
That is one schoolboard, representing the schoolboard, and perhaps some teachers. But schoolboards make choices against the teachers all the time. There are many other schoolboard meetings going through with teachers pleading the opposite, although I believe Osceola has done a decent job. I am not saying specifically osceola. There are counties with much higer percentages.
It was not a debate as I saw it. It was pointing out the connection. If schools have trouble opening with numbers that make most not feel good about it, you can bet that relates to WDW closing up again.
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Tony the Tigger
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So sick of hearing people saying other metrics are down. Logically and obviously, that’s temporary. You don’t die the day after you get the virus. There is time from infection to symptoms, symptoms to diagnosis, diagnosis to hospitalization, and hospitalization to death.
So if the numbers had previously been trending down, and then cases shoot up, the rest are coming, that’s irrefutable, and there is no point citing later stages being lower for a minute.
The only possible variable is they are learning how to treat it better, so you may end up with a lower death percentage.
The downside is even asymptomatic people are showing lung damage and other issues.
Polkadotdress
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If schools do not open then WDW will be adversely effected since so many Cast Members will be thrust in an untenable position of having to balance school-aged children being home while learning, while also juggling maintaining their job at WDW.
True however that's what parents have to deal when school is not in session and parents have day jobs.
Tony the Tigger
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So what are they doing now?
DVCakaCarlF
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Then they are not asymptomatic.
Polkadotdress
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They are being creative, leveraging friends or family to watch the kids. Some still have spouses/partners that are furloughed. Adding in the layer of having the kids home to engage in school (vs having them home for summer where they can entertain themselves) is very difficult, as the parent must be there to aid in that learning.
DisneyCane
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There are many other variables including the ages of the new "cases" and the percentage of total new "cases" that are asymptomatic or mild that wouldn't have gotten tested in April or May.
The deaths per day seem to have maybe doubled while the number of new daily cases are 7-10 times higher. The case fatality rate should not be expected to remain constant. Even the infection fatality rate will drop as the vulnerable population is better protected from infection than they were in the early months of the pandemic.
Tony the Tigger
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Oh, well. It’s tough for everyone.
SamusAranX
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Well I didn’t want to but Disney World refuses to refund my pass partially even though their website says otherwise.
Therefore so as not to waste $500.00 I will be going to AK in August. Hoping Florida has shown some improvement by then but I’m not betting on it. I don’t think they will reclose if they haven’t already with the huge caseload day to day
Ps: if anyone knows inner workings of Disney PM me, because I have run out of recourse on refunding my pass
Therefore so as not to waste $500.00 I will be going to AK in August. Hoping Florida has shown some improvement by then but I’m not betting on it. I don’t think they will reclose if they haven’t already with the huge caseload day to day
Ps: if anyone knows inner workings of Disney PM me, because I have run out of recourse on refunding my pass
SJN1279
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Masks are Universal.Sadly, one projection set suggests that would be optimistic.
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Overall state positivity rose today to 14.4% from the trend down in the 11 range. Of course concerning, lets investigate why that might be the case. Looking back Florida historically had the same behavior last week 4 days of decline and then a big jump up and then fell back and continued to trend down. While the jump did not occur on the same day last week, one could suspect it is a data dump. Something to watch.
Also looked at where the positivity was high to bring the state rate up. It is all South Florida, Dade county etc. In fact Orange County reported a positivity rate of only 7.4% lowest it has been for a long time, might have to go back to May for that, took a quick look so not sure but it has been at least a month for sure. At the rate it is declining next week it could be 2-3%. I don't think it will but that is the trend .
Orange County has had theme parks open for almost two months, Disney for 2-3 weeks, positivity rate now below the DOH target rate of 10%. Hospitalizations and capacity overall statewide and locally in Orlando is pretty much the same today as it was back in June. All this while case numbers have risen sharply.
There really isn't reason at all to reclose the parks. Masks might be working , mitigation/physical distancing might be working, virus might be mutating to a less dangerous one, might be any or all of the above, but the trends in the Orlando area are looking better.
Also looked at where the positivity was high to bring the state rate up. It is all South Florida, Dade county etc. In fact Orange County reported a positivity rate of only 7.4% lowest it has been for a long time, might have to go back to May for that, took a quick look so not sure but it has been at least a month for sure. At the rate it is declining next week it could be 2-3%. I don't think it will but that is the trend .
Orange County has had theme parks open for almost two months, Disney for 2-3 weeks, positivity rate now below the DOH target rate of 10%. Hospitalizations and capacity overall statewide and locally in Orlando is pretty much the same today as it was back in June. All this while case numbers have risen sharply.
There really isn't reason at all to reclose the parks. Masks might be working , mitigation/physical distancing might be working, virus might be mutating to a less dangerous one, might be any or all of the above, but the trends in the Orlando area are looking better.
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wendysue
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Don't know the inner workings of Disney, but they refused to refund our AP's as well, but we will NOT be going back. Will just have to eat the loss I guess, cause it's not worth running into all the people who think they are entitled to do whatever they want.