Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[DisneyDebRob]

Don’t go changing my post for the better now. Actually, at this point I would be in line for a 25 percent effective one. Give me anything.

 

[peter11435]

I’ve been to DS multiple times since it opened and haven’t seen plenty of people walking around without a mask. Most of the people I have seen have been compliant, and the ones that weren’t were far away from others. I have felt safer there than anywhere else.

Agreed. I’ve been several times and while I’ve seen some people not fully compliant, they are massively outnumbered. If all you do is look for the negative that’s all you’ll see.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Don’t go changing my post for the better now. Actually, at this point I would be in line for a 25 percent effective one. Give me anything.

I'm interested to see how they distribute vaccines.

 

[milordsloth]

Just have to ask cause I'm struggling with this? Why are you and many others in such a hurry to open things up. Cases and positive percentage are rising so now would be the time to refrain from opening more businesses. That includes theme parks and close the ones that are open. From what's been said you want positive percentage to be under 5 not 15.

I don't know about you, but I would like to see as many small businesses survive this situation as possible. Businesses need revenue.

 

[marni1971]

Remarkable restraint. Mad respect.

Thank you. Quite difficult sometimes. But this is a family forum.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I don't know about you, but I would like to see as many small businesses survive this situation as possible. Businesses need revenue.

I think there’s not one person on these boards that don’t want to see small business survive. My thinking at the time was when things open back up, close the big stores like Walmart and target for a month and let small business get back in the game. The bigs ones were doing well enough.
On the same hand, a healthy society breeds a healthy economy. Always been that way. If you don’t have the first, the second is impossible.

 

[Lilofan]

I think there’s not one person on these boards that don’t want to see small business survive. My thinking at the time was when things open back up, close the big stores like Walmart and target for a month and let small business get back in the game. The bigs ones were doing well enough.
On the same hand, a healthy society breeds a healthy economy. Always been that way. If you don’t have the first, the second is impossible.

That's an idea but the company stockholders of these big companies would never approve of it.

 

[legwand77]

They should be crossed until a vaccine. You or I or anyone doesn’t know if it gets better or worse.

If data shows (which it has been) less people are dying and or getting sick/hospitalized and trends for months/year (less than other diseases, flu etc .in the past) and we don't have a vaccine we should still keep things like they are now in regards to parks, restaurants and everything else?

 

[legwand77]

I think there’s not one person on these boards that don’t want to see small business survive. My thinking at the time was when things open back up, close the big stores like Walmart and target for a month and let small business get back in the game. The bigs ones were doing well enough.
On the same hand, a healthy society breeds a healthy economy. Always been that way. If you don’t have the first, the second is impossible.

Ah ok, the it's ok to steal from a big store because they can absorb the loss, they are doing well enough where a small store can't absorb it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

If data shows (which it has been) less people are dying and or getting sick/hospitalized and trends for months/year (less than other diseases, flu etc .in the past) and we don't have a vaccine we should still keep things like they are now in regards to parks, restaurants and everything else?

As they are right now, WDW will re open on schedule on July 11.

 

[legwand77]

As they are right now, WDW will re open on schedule on July 11.

yes with limited capacity etc.

 

[Lilofan]

As they are right now, WDW will re open on schedule on July 11.

I'm sure WDW is glad they are not in the Tampa area 90 min away. Several hospitals in Tampa are running out of hospital beds due to the Florida covid pandemic.

 

[MickeyMouse10]

I guess many people are right about their Floridian brethren.

The problem is they are used to going out and having fun. They don't know how to survive indoors like New Englanders, who are miserable and cold 6 months of the year.

 

[milordsloth]

I think there’s not one person on these boards that don’t want to see small business survive. My thinking at the time was when things open back up, close the big stores like Walmart and target for a month and let small business get back in the game. The bigs ones were doing well enough.
On the same hand, a healthy society breeds a healthy economy. Always been that way. If you don’t have the first, the second is impossible.

I agree no one wants small businesses to close permanently... But that is what is going to happen if we keep so many businesses closed indefinitely.

I agree with masks, capacity limits, and distancing... but we need to let businesses do that at least. Let my local theme parks open!

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Ah ok, the it's ok to steal from a big store because they can absorb the loss, they are doing well enough where a small store can't absorb it.

Not at all. Putting words in people’s mouths again I see.
You could make the same case for small business. They were told to shut down unlike the big stores who were told to stay open because they are essential. Let’s make the playing field comparable. If you want small business not to go under and survive, there are already behind the 8 ball because of government regulations. Of course the answer for that was Loans which many never got, and others that didn’t need it gladly took it.
Don’t conveniently for get that small business didn’t go under on their own. It was from strict regulations not allowing them to survive.

 

[schuelma]

Hospitalizations are not falling

 

[legwand77]

I'm sure WDW is glad they are not in the Tampa area 90 min away. Several hospitals in Tampa are running out of hospital beds due to the Florida covid pandemic.

Hillsborough hospitals have plenty of capacity, numbers have stayed the same since the the beginning of June, some hospitals run out of beds in normal hospital bed management, been discussed here many times.

 

[lilypgirl]

I'm sure WDW is glad they are not in the Tampa area 90 min away. Several hospitals in Tampa are running out of hospital beds due to the Florida covid pandemic.

I'm sure WDW is glad they are not in the Tampa area 90 min away. Several hospitals in Tampa are running out of hospital beds due to the Florida covid pandemic.

DO you have a link to info on this?

 

[legwand77]

Hospitalizations are not falling

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s this weird line that keeps getting repeated about Fla that &quot;cases are rising, but deaths and hospitalizations are falling.&quot; Its not true. Here are the weekly numbers thru yesterday. We&#39;ve set records for new hospitalizations 2 weeks in a row. Deaths are also rising. <a href="https://t.co/HDbTcoUkgD">pic.twitter.com/HDbTcoUkgD</a></p>&mdash; R.J. Lehmann (@raylehmann) <a href="">July 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

generically labeled graph made from a random twitter user, ok

 

[DisneyDebRob]

If data shows (which it has been) less people are dying and or getting sick/hospitalized and trends for months/year (less than other diseases, flu etc .in the past) and we don't have a vaccine we should still keep things like they are now in regards to parks, restaurants and everything else?

Data shows what you say right now. It’s the reason places are open. Data also shows increases in a few measures that you have always blindly looked away from.
I think as a society we need to keep business open safely. Whatever that’s means. We are trying it this way for now and if it doesn’t work, we need to change strategy. As I said before to you.. you or I or anyone else knows what happens a month or 2 from now. Let’s dip the toes in to see how cold the water really is.