Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

robhedin

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That doesn’t sound that bad.
Yeah. Capacity generally looks fairly "normal". Not saying that people may not be being hospitalized for COVID or that hospitalizations may not be increasing. Just saying that -- so far -- generally the hospitals in Florida don't appear to be overwhelmed and look to be managing well. Which is exactly what "flattening the curve" was intended to allow for.
 

Miss Bella

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Not the poster, but here is some information from way back in 2006 when hospitals purposely started decreasing capacity - and how it might have dire consequences in the future - ie, now.

A lot of hospitals have converted to private rooms. It increases patient satisfaction and it’s better for infection control. They can easily be converted back to doubles if needed.
 

Miss Bella

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Yeah. Capacity generally looks fairly "normal". Not saying that people may not be being hospitalized for COVID or that hospitalizations may not be increasing. Just saying that -- so far -- generally the hospitals in Florida don't appear to be overwhelmed and look to be managing well. Which is exactly what "flattening the curve" was intended to allow for.
We don’t have a bed problem we have a staffIng problem. Administration drug it’s feet getting supplemental staff. We don’t normally use them in the Summer. Work ethic is also lacking people call off all the time. We have an Army of nurses showing up next week. Were getting 75 of them. I have no idea where they a coming from, but Im so happy to have them.
 

oceanbreeze77

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I know test results are lagged but I was still expecting lower lagged results because of the holiday.

I should clarify in my post that I meant a holiday report.
 

TrojanUSC

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“COVID-19 is close to losing its epidemic status in the U.S., according to the CDC
The percentage of coronavirus deaths in the country has been declining for ten straight weeks.”

This is a bogus article. There is no sourcing, nor is it reported by any other outlet.
 

mwf5555

Active Member
Not the poster, but here is some information from way back in 2006 when hospitals purposely started decreasing capacity - and how it might have dire consequences in the future - ie, now.

I wonder if this coincided with the strategy to kick patients out no matter what based on a table
 

legwand77

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They quote the CDC but without attribution and it’s literally not picked up ANYWHERE else. It would be big news if true.

Article is right on one point but very misleading. Just as bad as the tampa bay article. It states the decreasing death rate Covid-19 is falling below one of the CDC's criteria of calling it an epidemic, correct, but there are many other criteria in the CDC's PSAF involved, so it will not be losing its epidemic status just based on deaths falling below the epidemic threshold. They do link directly to the data showing the death rate hitting threshold.
 
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Hcalvert

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My mom probably would ;). By far her favorite store. Outside of her, I agree, nobody else does. Plus I don’t know what’s happening in FL, but in my hood the Kohl’s has a full mask policy and physical distancing in check out lines and other precautions. Same as any other retail store.
Ohio doesn't have a mandatory mask rule and the businesses are too scared to mandate one...they only say it is "recommended." I have been seeing more and more people not wearing them. I was in Meijer today and an older couple didn't have them on and I won't go into a Wal-Mart because maybe 30% of people do have them on. Some cities in Ohio are mandating it (Cleveland recently), but that is all. The governor recently said he was not going to make it mandatory for students to wear them when they go back to school. 😬
 

TeriofTerror

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Ohio doesn't have a mandatory mask rule and the businesses are too scared to mandate one...they only say it is "recommended." I have been seeing more and more people not wearing them. I was in Meijer today and an older couple didn't have them on and I won't go into a Wal-Mart because maybe 30% of people do have them on. Some cities in Ohio are mandating it (Cleveland recently), but that is all. The governor recently said he was not going to make it mandatory for students to wear them when they go back to school. 😬
Smart move on the Ohio Walmarts. Even the employees at the one in my town have their masks below their noses or dangling from one ear.
I live in a small rural county, but our cases per capita are among the highest in the state. The "it's all a hoax" mentality is omnipresent, unfortunately.
 

Sundown

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They quote the CDC but without attribution and it’s literally not picked up ANYWHERE else. It would be big news if true.

I don't know...sometimes it takes an individual digging in to data to shine light on the findings. Sometimes the reporters for bigger media corporations are doing so many other things, that they don't do the actual leg-work to review data. Not saying that is happening, as I don't know much about the author or this site at all.

But from the brief article and it's links back to the CDC's page...from my vantage point this is bringing up some relevant info. And hopeful too. But certainly be wary of all news sources these days.
 

DisneyCane

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I mean.. we literally know what is working and what is not working.

Most other industrialized countries are in the midst of reopening and are not seeing nearly the level of new infections we are seeing.

It isn't a magic formula in any way.
Except we don't really know yet what is really working. All of the places doing "well" now had huge outbreaks a few months ago. It is not out of the realm of possibility that what is really working is "herd slowing" of the spread where not enough were infected to cause the virus to burn out but enough were that it resists the spread.

It's not like these places have no cases now so why aren't they just exploding again as they reopen? I don't know for sure either but to say we know what is working can't really be said yet.
 

lazyboy97o

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I don't know...sometimes it takes an individual digging in to data to shine light on the findings. Sometimes the reporters for bigger media corporations are doing so many other things, that they don't do the actual leg-work to review data. Not saying that is happening, as I don't know much about the author or this site at all.

But from the brief article and it's links back to the CDC's page...from my vantage point this is bringing up some relevant info. And hopeful too. But certainly be wary of all news sources these days.
It’s conflating the epidemic flu threshold as some sort of uniform standard. The epidemic flu threshold is based on previous years. It’s a junk comparison.
 

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