Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

[SirGoofy]

Careful who you hang around, Goof, I'm sure there's one of the 7000+ who would fit real nicely into Jungle Cruise.

Of course there are. Black Panther could fit, as well as the inhabitants of the Lost World. But that doesn't mean it's gonna happen.:lol:

That doesn't mean I don't believe Iron Man fits in Tomorrowland better than Stitch or Monsters.

 

[The Conundrum]

It would have to be one heck of an attraction. My problem with the Marvel characters is that they do not remind me of Disney. Yes, thematically they fit TL, but do they fit that overall whimsical MK feel?

Do Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Aerosmith, Twilight Zone, American Idol remind you of Disney?

 

[jt04]

I guess so because I don't think a Marvel take over of TL is a good idea at all. I much rather they return to looking towards the future.

So in this marvel take over of TL ate they going to paint SM blue and slap a giant 4 on it?

Will Buzz turn into The Danger Room.
TTA: Will this turn into STS Stark Transportation Systems
MILF: Xaviers Tranning Class

Is this the type of things you guys want to see in TL?

"Looking towards the future" is Future World's job. WDW is unique in that it doesn't need a Tomorrowland because it has Epcot.

And yes, your list is a nice start on the possibilities. Let the armchair imagineering begin!

 

[MousDad]

Wow...just wow. I have never seen a bigger group of hipocrites in my life.

So its totally acceptable that we have:

Lilo & Stitch,a cartoon that takes place in the PRESENT, in tomorrowland as an overlay to a once popular attraction that nobody can stand.
Some Monsters Inc. thing thats more of a glorified promo for the movie(s) rather than an actual attraction. Again nothing to do with tommorrow land.
Bill Nye and Ellen degeneris trying to make science "hip" in UOE
An aladdin spinner literally dumped into adventureland. Lion King/Aladdin shoved into tropical serenade.
Barebone thrill rides that aren't even worthy of DCA (test track, M:S,DINORAMA).
The Three Cabelleros stuffed into Mexico (when the movie is about Donald Duck's good will mission to SOUTH America :lol in a crappy ride.
Toy Story in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in FUTURE World
Finding Nemo in DAK (I didn't know the sign said Sea World on the way in)
Incredibles meet and greet in Tomorrowland

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

The argument of whether certain properties that WDI has chosen to incorporate in certain WDW attractions actually "fit" or not, can and has been debated endlessly, but has nothing to do with this argument.

You're talking about rebranding and renaming an entire land, a thematic entity that is an integral part of the history of the Disney parks.

In that light, all the properties you've mentioned (celebrities excluded) were created, developed and matured under the Disney arm. The character history of all the Marvel properties is already deeply and irreconcilably entrenched as non-Disney products.

As such, it is entirely inappropriate for them to be given cart blanche, free reign to replace or rebrand purely Disney works and purely Disney concepts.

Like I said earlier, bring on the character MAGs, give em cool attractions. Heck, build em a whole new land. But keep them out of the established, purely Disney entities.

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show you a green dog

Don't talk about jt like that - he's your best friend now!

 

[MousDad]

Of course there are. Black Panther could fit, as well as the inhabitants of the Lost World. But that doesn't mean it's gonna happen.:lol:

That doesn't mean I don't believe Iron Man fits in Tomorrowland better than Stitch or Monsters.

I have no problem with it either, if Disney produces an Iron Man film. But they're talking about retheming and renaming the entire land.

 

[SirGoofy]

I have no problem with it either, if Disney produces an Iron Man film. But they're talking about retheming and renaming the entire land.

JT's been talking about that forever. I don't like that idea at all.

The only place these characters should have a land is DHS. Unless they let Stark Industries be the host of Innoventions(something I really like:lookaroun).

EDIT: BTW I'll be emailing you my scores tomorrow night.

 

[The Conundrum]

The argument of whether certain properties that WDI has chosen to incorporate in certain WDW attractions actually "fit" or not, can and has been debated endlessly, but has nothing to do with this argument.

You're talking about rebranding and renaming an entire land, a thematic entity that is an integral part of the history of the Disney parks.

In that light, all the properties you've mentioned (celebrities excluded) were created, developed and matured under the Disney arm. The character history of all the Marvel properties is already deeply and irreconcilably entrenched as non-Disney products.

As such, it is entirely inappropriate for them to be given cart blanche, free reign to replace or rebrand purely Disney works and purely Disney concepts.

Like I said earlier, bring on the character MAGs, give em cool attractions. Heck, build em a whole new land. But keep them out of the established, purely Disney entities.



Don't talk about jt like that - he's your best friend now!

I never said anything about rebranding the entire land or renaming it. Just simply having them represented in the land.

Just for your info though, there are plans in WDI for a totally rebranded Tomorrowland based on Star Wars and a rebranded Adventureland based on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Heck, look what Disney already has done to It's a small world in CA and HK for example. So it's not exactly like Disney cares

 

[SirGoofy]

rebranded Adventureland based on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.

Lord help us if that ever happens.

I'm honestly starting to hate Pirates.

 

[BillsFanGabe]

Marvel + MK's Tomorrowland = Match made in heaven

Sorry my friend but it doesnt the only place that these Marvel characters belong is in DHS.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

"Looking towards the future" is Future World's job. WDW is unique in that it doesn't need a Tomorrowland because it has Epcot.

And yes, your list is a nice start on the possibilities. Let the armchair imagineering begin!

Is this a good point to state I hate green. Im more of a Royal Blue person.

 

[The Conundrum]

Sorry my friend but it doesnt the only place that these Marvel characters belong is in DHS.

If Toy Story, Finding Nemo, and Star Wars can be stuffed into Tomorrowland. You can bet your boots that theres room for some Marvel in there too.

 

[jt04]

I have no problem with it either, if Disney produces an Iron Man film. But they're talking about retheming and renaming the entire land.

A year ago you had to be convinced theme and back story even mattered. Glad to see you are learning what makes a Disney park special.

Remember Pixar was not a Disney product and it's all over TL now. Stitch is sci-fi (to be generous).

TL lost it's identity long ago. Just picture what IoA has done with Marvel (have you even been to IoA?) and then imagine what WDI can do with the TL infrastructue and the marvel stories.

It would be awesome!

 

[MousDad]

I never said anything about rebranding the entire land or renaming it. Just simply having them represented in the land.

Well, somebody did. :lol:

Just for your info though, there are plans in WDI for a totally rebranded Tomorrowland based on Star Wars and a rebranded Adventureland based on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Heck, look what Disney already has done to It's a small world in CA and HK for example. So it's not exactly like Disney cares

And we can only hope that, by the fact that neither has occurred, that such plans were thought better of.

I do wonder how the DL fan base would have reacted to the Star Wars rebranding though.

 

[Figment632]

"Looking towards the future" is Future World's job. WDW is unique in that it doesn't need a Tomorrowland because it has Epcot.

And yes, your list is a nice start on the possibilities. Let the armchair imagineering begin!

Ok I'm just trying to see where you are coming from. I still don't think that Marvel is a good idea anywhere in MK. If you want to put them in DHS be my guest but I want them away from MK.

 

[The Conundrum]

I do wonder how the DL fan base would have reacted to the Star Wars rebranding though.

They did react when the news broke (I think it was Jim Hill and LP who leaked it and al lutz hinted at it)

The division was similar to what your seeing here with Marvel. There was a group that was strongly for it, there was group of old timers who didn't like it (until it opens at which point you wouldn't be able to get them to leave) and there were alot of people indifferent.

 

[jt04]

Ok I'm just trying to see where you are coming from. I still don't think that Marvel is a good idea anywhere in MK. If you want to put them in DHS be my guest but I want them away from MK.

So how does Pixar and Stitch work for you in the current "Tomorrowland"?

 

[MousDad]

A year ago you had to be convinced theme and back story even mattered. Glad to see you are learning what makes a Disney park special.

Which is why the things you are saying are blowing my mind.

But yes, darn it, you are right. I can admit I wasn't quite all the way there on that occasion.

And you can even let yourself think I owe it all to you, if you want.

Remember Pixar was not a Disney product and it's all over TL now. Stitch is sci-fi (to be generous).

It's splitting hairs a little. They were not Disney creations, per se, but were Disney products from inception, in that they were under the Disney arm. (As any future Disney/Marvel projects would be.)

 

[yankspy]

Do Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Aerosmith, Twilight Zone, American Idol remind you of Disney?

No. However, none of those are in TL or the MK which was what my post specifically pointed to. I have no problems seeing Marvel in DHS. Let's take one land or park at a time.

 

[jt04]

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Which is why the things you are saying are blowing my mind.

But yes, darn it, you are right. I can admit I wasn't quite all the way there on that occasion.

And you can even let yourself think I owe it all to you, if you want.




It's splitting hairs a little. They were not Disney creations, per se, but were Disney products from inception, in that they were under the Disney arm. (As any future Disney/Marvel projects would be.)

Pixar was not a Disney product. Neither was/is Star Wars or Indiana Jones...

or Winnie the Pooh or Snow White or Dumbo......


....or Marvel........

 

[FutureCEO]

lol...the Smurfs would be interesting at Disney.. I personnaly would have loved the money go to a LucasFilm buyout.