Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

[The Conundrum]

No. However, none of those are in TL or the MK which was what my post specifically pointed to. I have no problems seeing Marvel in DHS. Let's take one land or park at a time.

Except that they are in Tomorrowland (finding nemo, Star Wars). Disneyland (anahiem and paris) even has Indiana Jones in Adventureland. They just don't happen to be in WDW's version of TL (although toy story, monsters, and lilo/stitch is)

 

[SirGoofy]

lol...the Smurfs would be interesting at Disney.. I personnaly would have loved the money go to a LucasFilm buyout.

Lucas Film does not have the earnings potential Marvel currently does.

 

[yankspy]

Except that they are in Tomorrowland (finding nemo, Star Wars). Disneyland (anahiem and paris) even has Indiana Jones in Adventureland. They just don't happen to be in WDW's version of TL (although toy story, monsters, and lilo/stitch is)

Okay, perhaps I should be more specific. We are talking about Tomorrowland in the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World. I can't comment on DL as I have only been there twice a long time ago and I have never been to DLP. So I am still wondering if Marvel characters fit into the overall whimsical feel of the Magic Kingdom?

 

[SirGoofy]

Okay, perhaps I should be more specific. We are talking about Tomorrowland in the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World. I can't comment on DL as I have only been there twice a long time ago and I have never been to DLP. So I am still wondering if Marvel characters fit into the overall whimsical feel of the Magic Kingdom?

Personally I don't see the entire Magic Kingdom as whimsical. There are certain rides that are (Splash, Jungle, Haunted Mansion) and a lands(Fantasy, Toontown), but I don't think the entire thing is.

I feel that if done well an Iron Man ride would fit fine in TL. I'm not saying the entire tland should be Marvel, but something would not be a problem.

 

[The Conundrum]

Okay, perhaps I should be more specific. We are talking about Tomorrowland in the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World. I can't comment on DL as I have only been there twice a long time ago and I have never been to DLP. So I am still wondering if Marvel characters fit into the overall whimsical feel of the Magic Kingdom?

 

[yankspy]

Personally I don't see the entire Magic Kingdom as whimsical. There are certain rides that are (Splash, Jungle, Haunted Mansion) and a lands(Fantasy, Toontown), but I don't think the entire thing is.

I feel that if done well an Iron Man ride would fit fine in TL. I'm not saying the entire tland should be Marvel, but something would not be a problem.

It might. As I said, it would have to be one heck of an atrraction. AE comes to mind. It did not fit the whimsical feel, but it was one heck of an attraction.

So your answer is no then. Okay thanks.

 

[janoimagine]

Wow...just wow. I have never seen a bigger group of hipocrites in my life.

So its totally acceptable that we have:

Lilo & Stitch,a cartoon that takes place in the PRESENT, in tomorrowland as an overlay to a once popular attraction that nobody can stand.
Some Monsters Inc. thing thats more of a glorified promo for the movie(s) rather than an actual attraction. Again nothing to do with tommorrow land.
Bill Nye and Ellen degeneris trying to make science "hip" in UOE
An aladdin spinner literally dumped into adventureland. Lion King/Aladdin shoved into tropical serenade.
Barebone thrill rides that aren't even worthy of DCA (test track, M:S,DINORAMA).
The Three Cabelleros stuffed into Mexico (when the movie is about Donald Duck's good will mission to SOUTH America :lol in a crappy ride.
Toy Story in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in FUTURE World
Finding Nemo in DAK (I didn't know the sign said Sea World on the way in)
Incredibles meet and greet in Tomorrowland

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show you a green dog

I can't.

However I don't agree with Stitch, or MILF being in that area of the park either. Just because they already exist their doesn't mean they should throw all rules out the window and start placing even more things that don't belong . It will only make the problem worse. My biggest problem with Disney incorporating Marvel into the MK is that it was never an original Disney idea. Now before you jump on me for that, Pixar's characters were created in conjunction with Disney, giving them a pass on those. Marvel was not a Disney creation, much like the Muppets, therefore I feel the only place they would belong is DHS. IMHO

 

[SirGoofy]

It might. As I said, it would have to be one heck of an atrraction. AE comes to mind. It did not fit the whimsical feel, but it was one heck of an attraction.

Exactly. I don't want any attraction, be it classic Disney or Marvel, that isn't quality.

 

[The Conundrum]

I can't.

However I don't agree with Stitch, or MILF being in that area of the park either. Just because they already exist their doesn't mean they should throw all rules out the window and start placing even more things that don't belong . It will only make the problem worse. My biggest problem with Disney incorporating Marvel into the MK is that it was never an original Disney idea. Now before you jump on me for that, Pixar's characters were created in conjunction with Disney, giving them a pass on those. Marvel was not a Disney creation, much like the Muppets, therefore I feel the only place they would belong is DHS. IMHO

By this logic they should remove 90% of Fantasyland since the only Disney creation's there are It's a Small World and Mickey Mouse.

 

[SirGoofy]

Pixar's characters were created in conjunction with Disney

That's really not true. Pixar created their characters and their movies. Disney merely distributed the films.

 

[MousDad]

That's really not true. Pixar created their characters and their movies. Disney merely distributed the films.

I don't know, weren't they both distributor and owner of the material? Disney only had to buy Pixar when it became obvious that Pixar was going to go out on their own and beat them at their own game independently.

 

[janoimagine]

By this logic they should remove 90% of Fantasyland since the only Disney creation's there are It's a Small World and Mickey Mouse.

Ok I can see why you would jump to that extreme based on my post. However Disney took those classic stories, Snow White (Brothers Grim), Peter Pan (JM Barrie), Winnie the Pooh (A. A. Milne), Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), and rewrote them in Disney Fashion.

If Disney does something similar to this, sure they could use it, then I would agree with you, until then agree to disagree.

 

[SirGoofy]

I don't know, weren't they both distributor and owner of the material? Disney only had to buy Pixar when it became obvious that Pixar was going to go out on their own and beat them at their own game independently.

I'm not sure. But I'm certain that Pixar was the creator of the characters. I'm pretty sure Disney animators didn't have a hand in the creation of Buzz, Wooy, etc.

 

[janoimagine]

That's really not true. Pixar created their characters and their movies. Disney merely distributed the films.

Do a little more home homework on that. Disney had final approval of concept and charachter development, as well as storyline.

 

[SirGoofy]

Do a little more home homework on that. Disney had final approval of concept and charachter development, as well as storyline.

Approval.

Pixar still did the design/creation.:wave:

And I'm sure that it was Pixar. Disney couldn't find a hit if it hit them on their head without Pixar. And now the movie that will bring back 2D is being led by...the Pixar guy.

 

[Figment632]

So how does Pixar and Stitch work for you in the current "Tomorrowland"?

It's terrible the only aspect that fits is the teleportation.

 

[janoimagine]

Approval.

Pixar still did the design/creation.:wave:

And I'm sure that it was Pixar. Disney couldn't find a hit if it hit them on their head without Pixar. And now the movie that will bring back 2D is being led by...the Pixar guy.

True, but that is a little more than just distribution. :wave:

I agree, Disney hasn't had a hit of their own in a long, long time.

 

[Mr Toad]

Just for your info though, there are plans in WDI for a totally rebranded Tomorrowland based on Star Wars and a rebranded Adventureland based on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.

That would be no worse than Marvel moving in. Personally, i don't care for Star Wars...I'm more of a Trek person :lol:.

 

[ttalovebug]

That's really not true. Pixar created their characters and their movies. Disney merely distributed the films.

True, but it doesn't really matter if Disney had a hand in creating the characters. Disney has distributed every one of their films, therefore the public will always associate the Pixar characters with Disney. It's not like the characters were featured at another brand of theme park, or in another studio's movies, and then Disney bought them. The Pixar characters have appeared in the Disney parks since they started making movies. I think the average movie-goer and park guest completely sees Mike Wasowski and Woody as "Disney" characters. It is a situation so completely different from Marvel. It's totally irrelevant to this disscusion.

 

[The Conundrum]

It's terrible the only aspect that fits is the teleportation.

But if we place Fantastic Four in its place we get Teleportation/Time Travel (harkening back to Timekeeper!)/Science/etc. a much better fit. Plus the Fantastic Four are already pretty whimsical and people remember the animated version of them more fondly than the brief run of movies