Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

[TubaGeek]

In other words, for every Spiderman success there's a Fantastic Four failure.

That's true. Two good Spider-Man movies, two bad FF movies. All that's left is that HORRIBLE S-M 3...

Neither Star Wars nor Indiana Jones nor Pixar have ever had a movie bomb.

That's also true, but I'd rather have had the Star Wars prequels and the fourth Indy movie bomb and be good than have what happened happen.

 

[jt04]

I don't think you'll ever see one of the original DL or MK lands completely stripped of its theme that way. It might have comic book characters at some point (personally I doubt it, but who knows?), but I think you'll always have a Tomorrowland in those parks, at least in name.

Tomorrowland was stripped of it's theme quite awhile ago. Some are making an effort to revive the theme but Marvel could solve the problem quickly! And "Tomorrowlands" are not universal to all "Kingdom" parks.

A Marvel overlay of TL would be a terrible idea, mostly because 98% of the marvel comics take place today and not in the future.

MK's Tomorrowland has little to do with the future. Future World at Epcot however could and should. That is WDW's Tomorrowland!

If you want to take a Marvel story line from the future and redo SGE thats fine but not more than one ride.

You could take the X-men Apocolypse story and Redo SGE. Guest would enter Apocolypse's lazarith chamber and help Cable and Bishop defeat him.

The entire land could be reworked with such attractions. Just use your imagination. And it would be the PERFECT compliment to the new Fantasyland content.

Jut look at how popular Marvel-Land is at IoA. Now multiply that land by a factor of 10 and put it in the MK!

Oh heck yeah!

 

[Figment632]

Tomorrowland was stripped of it's theme quite awhile ago. Some are making an effort to revive the theme but Marvel could solve the problem quickly! And "Tomorrowlands" are not universal to all "Kingdom" parks.


The entire land could be reworked with such attractions. Just use your imagination. And it would be the PERFECT compliment to the new Fantasyland content.

Jut look at how popular Marvel-Land is at IoA. Now multiply that land by a factor of 10 and put it in the MK!

Oh heck yeah!

If that is how it is going to be they really shouldn't call it TL anymore.

 

[jt04]

If that is how it is going to be they really shouldn't call it TL anymore.

Exactly. And as I've said a thousand times, WDW has a Tomorrowland. It's called Future World and it's at Epcot.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Tomorrowland was stripped of it's theme quite awhile ago. Some are making an effort to revive the theme but Marvel could solve the problem quickly! And "Tomorrowlands" are not universal to all "Kingdom" parks.

That doesn't really address what I said, which was that I don't think any of the lands that opened with DL or MK specifically will ever have their original themes removed to the point that the lands get a different name. Even if the themes are watered down to the point of near incoherence, I think they will remain in some form.

 

[jt04]

That doesn't really address what I said, which was that I don't think any of the lands that opened with DL or MK specifically will ever have their original themes removed to the point that the lands get a different name. Even if the themes are watered down to the point of near incoherence, I think they will remain in some form.

I've never heard of such a rule. Just look at how DHS has transformed. And TWWoHP is a good example of how it could work. Something old and tired can be transformed into something new and cutting edge.

 

[dizpins14]

I'm calling Princess/Hero Parties featuring Marvel are going to appear at DCA in five years. That's the soonest Marvel will enter the Disney parks.

 

[The Conundrum]

Wow...just wow. I have never seen a bigger group of hipocrites in my life.

So its totally acceptable that we have:

Lilo & Stitch,a cartoon that takes place in the PRESENT, in tomorrowland as an overlay to a once popular attraction that nobody can stand.
Some Monsters Inc. thing thats more of a glorified promo for the movie(s) rather than an actual attraction. Again nothing to do with tommorrow land.
Bill Nye and Ellen degeneris trying to make science "hip" in UOE
An aladdin spinner literally dumped into adventureland. Lion King/Aladdin shoved into tropical serenade.
Barebone thrill rides that aren't even worthy of DCA (test track, M:S,DINORAMA).
The Three Cabelleros stuffed into Mexico (when the movie is about Donald Duck's good will mission to SOUTH America :lol in a crappy ride.
Toy Story in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in FUTURE World
Finding Nemo in DAK (I didn't know the sign said Sea World on the way in)
Incredibles meet and greet in Tomorrowland

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show you a green dog

 

[jt04]

I'm calling Princess/Hero Parties featuring Marvel are going to appear at DCA in five years. That's the soonest Marvel will enter the Disney parks.

That is funny because we've already heard they are working on character costumes.

 

[Figment632]

Exactly. And as I've said a thousand times, WDW has a Tomorrowland. It's called Future World and it's at Epcot.

But FW isn't futuristic anymore either. If you change the name to Discovery Land like in DLP I'm fine with Marvel additions. But if the keep the TL name marvel doesn't belong.

 

[Mr Toad]

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show you a green dog

You are correct but another overall theme is science as a whole. Reed Richards is a scientist, Tony Stark is a brillant mind as well. You all know where those 2 could fit in.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I've never heard of such a rule.

Didn't say it was a written rule. Thus the very deliberate use of "I think" in every reiteration of the thought. (Most people may not be able to distinguish their opinions from facts around here, but I do try.) :lol:

Even the stuff that people think is completely out of place has some attempted tie to the "feel" of Tomorrowland. I don't see that ever changing.

(And I think one of the coolest things about Future World is that you can see how the idea had its germ in Tomorrowland.)

 

[Figment632]

Wow...just wow. I have never seen a bigger group of hipocrites in my life.

So its totally acceptable that we have:

Lilo & Stitch,a cartoon that takes place in the PRESENT, in tomorrowland as an overlay to a once popular attraction that nobody can stand.
Some Monsters Inc. thing thats more of a glorified promo for the movie(s) rather than an actual attraction. Again nothing to do with tommorrow land.
Bill Nye and Ellen degeneris trying to make science "hip" in UOE
An aladdin spinner literally dumped into adventureland. Lion King/Aladdin shoved into tropical serenade.
Barebone thrill rides that aren't even worthy of DCA (test track, M:S,DINORAMA).
The Three Cabelleros stuffed into Mexico (when the movie is about Donald Duck's good will mission to SOUTH America :lol in a crappy ride.
Toy Story in Tomorrowlan
Finding Nemo in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in FUTURE Worl
Finding Nemo in DAK (I didn't know the sign said Sea World on the way in)
Incredibles meet and greet in Tomorrowla
All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in
Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch
is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technol

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show
you a green dog

Ok I don't think MILF belongs in TL the whole interdementinal thing is such a strech and as far ad the FW stuff you brought up there nothing futuristic about it.

 

[jt04]

But FW isn't futuristic anymore either. If you change the name to Discovery Land like in DLP I'm fine with Marvel additions. But if the keep the TL name marvel doesn't belong.

I guess you missed my point. A Marvel takeover of TL would mean a name change I'm certain.

And I agree about Future World. WDI etc. really needs to return to EC's roots as far as possible. And it seems that is happening. See the new SSE post show and many of the new activities at Innoventions. It's encouraging.

 

[yankspy]

Wow...just wow. I have never seen a bigger group of hipocrites in my life.

So its totally acceptable that we have:

Lilo & Stitch,a cartoon that takes place in the PRESENT, in tomorrowland as an overlay to a once popular attraction that nobody can stand.
Some Monsters Inc. thing thats more of a glorified promo for the movie(s) rather than an actual attraction. Again nothing to do with tommorrow land.
Bill Nye and Ellen degeneris trying to make science "hip" in UOE
An aladdin spinner literally dumped into adventureland. Lion King/Aladdin shoved into tropical serenade.
Barebone thrill rides that aren't even worthy of DCA (test track, M:S,DINORAMA).
The Three Cabelleros stuffed into Mexico (when the movie is about Donald Duck's good will mission to SOUTH America :lol in a crappy ride.
Toy Story in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in Tomorrowland
Finding Nemo in FUTURE World
Finding Nemo in DAK (I didn't know the sign said Sea World on the way in)
Incredibles meet and greet in Tomorrowland

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

Explain to me how all the above is acceptable but Marvel isn't and I will show you a green dog

The thing is that many people do have problems with half your list already. Many have issues with stitch, nemo, etc.

As far as barebone thrill rides, well I have never seen something on the scale of Test Track at the county fair.

Toy Story in TL. Buzz is a space based toy. It really is not a stretch. It fits. If it were Woody, then you would have an argument.

 

[The Conundrum]

The thing is that many people do have problems with half your list already. Many have issues with stitch, nemo, etc.

As far as barebone thrill rides, well I have never seen something on the scale of Test Track at the county fair.

Toy Story in TL. Buzz is a space based toy. It really is not a stretch. It fits. If it were Woody, then you would have an argument.

So then you will have no problems with space based marvel charecters moving in correct??

 

[Wilt Dasney]

All of that is acceptable and justified but ABSOLUETLY NO Iron Man (robotics, future technologies), NO Fantastic Four (who's foundations are heavily based in Time Travel, Teleportation and Space travel), NO Space charecters (yet Stitch is A-OK) because HEAVEN FORBID children and park goers actually get interested in science and technology again!

I can only speak for myself, but I never said no Marvel in Tomorrowland. What I did say was no changing the name of Tomorrowland to Marvel Land and completely abandoning the conceit of technology and space travel that has in some form animated the area since the day it opened.

 

[jt04]

(And I think one of the coolest things about Future World is that you can see how the idea had its germ in Tomorrowland.)

So true!

 

[Figment632]

I guess you missed my point. A Marvel takeover of TL would mean a name change I'm certain.

And I agree about Future World. WDI etc. really needs to return to EC's roots as far as possible. And it seems that is happening. See the new SSE post show and many of the new activities at Innoventions. It's encouraging.

I guess so because I don't think a Marvel take over of TL is a good idea at all. I much rather they return to looking towards the future.

So in this marvel take over of TL ate they going to paint SM blue and slap a giant 4 on it?

Will Buzz turn into The Danger Room.
TTA: Will this turn into STS Stark Transportation Systems
MILF: Xaviers Tranning Class

Is this the type of things you guys want to see in TL?

 

[yankspy]

So then you will have no problems with space based marvel characters moving in correct??

It would have to be one heck of an attraction. My problem with the Marvel characters is that they do not remind me of Disney. Yes, thematically they fit TL, but do they fit that overall whimsical MK feel?