Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

Figment632

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But if we place Fantastic Four in its place we get Teleportation/Time Travel (harkening back to Timekeeper!)/Science/etc. a much better fit. Plus the Fantastic Four are already pretty whimsical and people remember the animated version of them more fondly than the brief run of movies

My real problem I guess is why does it have to take over all of TL?
 

Figment632

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It's completely relevant. People are complaining that Marvel doesn't fit into the parks because it is not characters that Disney created.

Neither are the Pixar characters.

Thats not my problem really I just don't want them to go overboard.

Also this isn't the first time Disney has purchased characters, let's not forget that Pooh was purchased by Disney and not created same with the Power Rangers. I still think this was a good and smart move by Disney I just don't want them to go overboard.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
im scared that im going to be a senior citizen by the time I get to see Marvel charecters and rides in WDW :cry:

I really hope Disney can secure enough of the film and theme park rights.

I also think they should redesign the World of Disney store to now include a fully realized Marvel section. Replace the Pirates/Princess section and get rid of that creepy talking princess doll and pirate (but keep the adventureland bird!)
 

jt04

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My real problem I guess is why does it have to take over all of TL?

Because the land is hopelessly incoherent as it is now. Disney needs to boldly move into the future. It's as if Suess characters would be put into TWWoHP. You'd be saying, "why can't potter have the entire land?" Well, why wouldn't Marvel take up all of TL?

I think the main fear is for CoP. But it really needs to be placed over in Epcot. WoL pavilion?

Then everything would themed properly.
 

Figment632

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Because the land is hopelessly incoherent as it is now. Disney needs to boldly move into the future. It's as if Suess characters would be put into TWWoHP. You'd be saying, "why can't potter have the entire land?" Well, why wouldn't Marvel take up all of TL?

I think the main fear is for CoP. But it really needs to be placed over in Epcot. WoL pavilion?

Then everything would themed properly.

As big of a mess as TL is I think DHS is an even bigger mess the Marvel characters would help DHS a lot more than TL.
 

jt04

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As big of a mess as TL is I think DHS is an even bigger mess the Marvel characters would help DHS a lot more than TL.

Oh yeah, I think DHS will be the first venue for Marvel. The Tomorrowland scenario for Marvel is very much in the future if at all.

By the way, I have figured out a possible loophole Disney may exploit at WDW for using all the characters. Let's see what D23 brings!

:zipit:
 

Wilt Dasney

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It's completely relevant. People are complaining that Marvel doesn't fit into the parks because it is not characters that Disney created.

Neither are the Pixar characters.
But that's taking the argument and reducing it to its most simple components to give the appearance of sameness. An outhouse and a palace can both have a front door, but that doesn't demonstrate much about them comparatively.

The larger point that Pixar characters have had a public association with Disney since Toy Story is valid. Regardless of the inside baseball of corporate holdings, people saw that castle on the screen before Pixar flicks and the idea that this stuff is "Disney" clearly existed. Same way Roger Rabbit has always been considered "Disney" even if the company didn't own him outright.

Disney has in no way been involved in the production or distribution of any Marvel product to date (that I know of, anyway). That association simply isn't there yet.

Maybe Disney will establish that association on future Marvel projects. Maybe they won't. But to say there's absolutely no difference between the company's connection to Pixar and to Marvel simply because they didn't originally create or own the characters in both cases strikes me as willfully ignoring the history of their involvement (or non-involvement, in Marvel's case) with the two properties to date.
 

Figment632

New Member
Why can't Marvel fix both?

Pixar was thrown into every park under the sun afterall and Marvel is far more appealing to park guests

And in my opinion it didn't work out in a lot of places. While MILF is an improvement over an empty building it is far from one of Timekeeper. Also the TLS has been brought down to the level of a second grader.
 

janoimagine

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It's completely relevant. People are complaining that Marvel doesn't fit into the parks because it is not characters that Disney created.

Neither are the Pixar characters.

I don't agree with that. Lasseter created the characters for Toy Story, A Bugs Life, Toy Story 2 ect. Lasseter is the head of Disney Animation Studios. :shrug:
 

jonnyc

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Lord help us if that ever happens.

I'm honestly starting to hate Pirates.

It has been absolute overkill for a mediocre franchise (film-wise) at best.

They did react when the news broke (I think it was Jim Hill and LP who leaked it and al lutz hinted at it)

The division was similar to what your seeing here with Marvel. There was a group that was strongly for it, there was group of old timers who didn't like it (until it opens at which point you wouldn't be able to get them to leave) and there were alot of people indifferent.

Oldtimers? I'm 18, and I would be against a retheme of Tomorrowland to Star Wars. Although i'm not against a Star Wars (or even Marvel) attraction in Tomorrowland.

So how does Pixar and Stitch work for you in the current "Tomorrowland"?

I am pretty sure it is consensus that they don't, you appear to be assuming that the people who don't want Marvel atomatically think that Pixar and Stich fit in.

But if we place Fantastic Four in its place we get Teleportation/Time Travel (harkening back to Timekeeper!)/Science/etc. a much better fit. Plus the Fantastic Four are already pretty whimsical and people remember the animated version of them more fondly than the brief run of movies

But please don't take any basis of any attraction from the film.

I also think they should redesign the World of Disney store to now include a fully realized Marvel section.

I'd rather a separte store. A very large store. coughvirginmegastorescough.

Because the land is hopelessly incoherent as it is now. Disney needs to boldly move into the future. It's as if Suess characters would be put into TWWoHP. You'd be saying, "why can't potter have the entire land?" Well, why wouldn't Marvel take up all of TL?

What about Space Mountain though? Instead of them rebranding TL Marvel *insert name here*, wouldn't you rather have a seperate Marvel land and keep TL?

And finnaly...

Has this deal gone through yet? What if it fell through... we would have all wasted 84 pages of our time :lol:.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
I am pretty sure it is consensus that they don't, you appear to be assuming that the people who don't want Marvel atomatically think that Pixar and Stich fit in.

Ah, this one is becoming wise in the ways of internet debate. He has already learned to recognize "straw men." Next we will study "the plural of anecdote is data" before moving on to "subtle connotations of fascism."

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GothMickey

Active Member
???

That just reinforced what I said. Unless your implying that it was before joining Disney, but Walt had a similar background with his IP's before creating Walt Disney Studios and those IP's are in use at the parks today. So it's ok for one scenario but not the other?

JL was not always the head of Disney Animation. Yes, he ran/runs Pixar, but that was the extent of his relationship with Disney.

And think about what you said about Walt Disney. Walt owned his characters, minus Oswald. Why wouldn't Walt's original creations be part of the studio he founded?
 

WDW Vacationer

Active Member
I think you aren't appreciative of what Imagineers create. Do I need to post the parade video of Six Flags again?
I've seen videos.:dazzle: CHEESY speakers exposed with iParty daecorations.:lol:

I know... but hey, when he is right, he's right.. and in this, he is right!!!
No, Marvel does not fit in TL or anywhere in MK.

I don't agree with that. Lasseter created the characters for Toy Story, A Bugs Life, Toy Story 2 ect. Lasseter is the head of Disney Animation Studios. :shrug:
Lasseter was one of the founders of Pixar,came to be Creative Head at Disney in '06 after the buyout.:wave:
 

imagineer boy

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Because the land is hopelessly incoherent as it is now. Disney needs to boldly move into the future. It's as if Suess characters would be put into TWWoHP. You'd be saying, "why can't potter have the entire land?" Well, why wouldn't Marvel take up all of TL?

I think the main fear is for CoP. But it really needs to be placed over in Epcot. WoL pavilion?

Then everything would themed properly.

But if you made Tomorrowland into Marvel land, you would be tarnishing Walt's original magic kingdom park concept.

Completely getting rid of one of the orignal lands, and retheming it completely to characters from a completely different franchise? That's terrible!
 

_Scar

Active Member
But if you made Tomorrowland into Marvel land, you would be tarnishing Walt's original magic kingdom park concept.

Completely getting rid of one of the orignal lands, and retheming it completely to characters from a completely different franchise? That's terrible!


Just a ride in TLand would do. Why would they call a well known and popular land that is Tommorrowland? Never would happen.

BTW, TS-WNAF is a very fun and unique dark ride IMO. Epcot needed that expansion badly.

I don't get all this Lasseter hate. He is banging out hit and hit at Pixar, is the head honcho at DAS, and is giving us great (or so it seems) expansions! LOVE that guy, and he is what Disney needs.
 

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