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Disney once again showing why...
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Animaniac93-98
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I liked the part with Newsies. Funny how with all the strict brand and aqcusition based pushing the company has obssesed over in recent years, somehow that property has managed to change its reputation completely through dedication and clever revision to become a money maker for them. It's a good reminder that there are other ways for Disney to make money and why paying attention to your fans is a good idea.
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
The movie itself was a flop but the broadway play is where it belonged all along. That seems to have revitalized the franchise but I'd argue the movie may have done better today than in the early 90s. Musical movies seem to be more popular now than ever before (at least it seems).
lebeau
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I know I can't get enough awkward banter among E-list "celebrities" (or more acurately "celebutards" - thank you Joss Whedon) like Nick Cannon, Mario Lopez and Maria Menounos. I love the stench of failed actors forced to seel their souls to major corporations. I watch the parade every year for the moment when each of them breaks down and cries inside.
When I fast forward through all the corporate spin, the entire two hour show takes about 15 minutes. If we actually want to watch a Disney parade, Youtube videos are far more entertaining. We usually watch Mickey's Soundsational Parade since it is superior to any of the WDW parades by a wide margin.
When I fast forward through all the corporate spin, the entire two hour show takes about 15 minutes. If we actually want to watch a Disney parade, Youtube videos are far more entertaining. We usually watch Mickey's Soundsational Parade since it is superior to any of the WDW parades by a wide margin.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Made a small tweak.
You only take the time to do critical analysis of something if you love it. If you didn't, you would move on to something else.
Reading yet another discussion about whether people being critical of WDW don't love it anymore and should just stop going I started to wonder about one thing: Why is it often the same people that say that other theme parks (be it Universal, Seaworld, Busch Gardens) lack the same MAGIC that Disney has - but then when something is criticized at Disney come up with the argument that Disney is just a business and people should just stop going if they don't like what Disney does to its parks. Why can emotion be used to put down the competitor, but emotional loyalty by fans towards Disney if it is critical of the company is being disregarded?
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
I'd disagree with this point though. They're more popular now than they were in the 80s or 90s, but they're not the top box office draws they were prior to the late 1960s.
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
That was more my point. Even though movies from each decade are vastly different due to technology... Movies from the last 25 years are more comparable and that was what I meant. Clearly pre-1980 you had some big time musicals (Poppins, Grease, etc). That style seems to have become popular again with High School Musical, Glee, Hairspray and now Les Mis.
I don't know, but from the OP angle it's been totally destroyed. Again.
Rasvar
Well-Known Member
I watched the "Disney Parks" parade. It stopped being the WDW parade a few years ago. Yeah, two hour ad but it was fun to watch. I pick on Disney and gripe to no end about things going on but I do still enjoy the parks. I just think the product could be, and has been, much better.
As far as the parade, the live parade was always complete chaos and a less polished show. I think the production value of the parade now is superior. But at the same time, it does seem less "magical" and more "advertisement". I always love the awkwardness of prerecorded throws from one segment to another as if it was live. The post production split screens are the best. I actually think it could be a better show if they got away from the faux live look and just produced it as a show with segments. But there is something about keeping that live look that means a lot to people watching. I still wish they could have some kind of live Christmas segments from the parks as an anchor but know the pain in the neck it really is to pull off.
They don't even do the Easter Parade anymore. Not sure that one really had the effect that the Christmas parade has. The Christmas parade has always been the post gift opening and breakfast eating relaxation time for me with some eggnog(sometimes more nogged than others).
As far as the parade, the live parade was always complete chaos and a less polished show. I think the production value of the parade now is superior. But at the same time, it does seem less "magical" and more "advertisement". I always love the awkwardness of prerecorded throws from one segment to another as if it was live. The post production split screens are the best. I actually think it could be a better show if they got away from the faux live look and just produced it as a show with segments. But there is something about keeping that live look that means a lot to people watching. I still wish they could have some kind of live Christmas segments from the parks as an anchor but know the pain in the neck it really is to pull off.
They don't even do the Easter Parade anymore. Not sure that one really had the effect that the Christmas parade has. The Christmas parade has always been the post gift opening and breakfast eating relaxation time for me with some eggnog(sometimes more nogged than others).
bethymouse
Well-Known Member
I enjoyed it, but could've done without all of the "commercials". I wish they'd bring back the Easter Parade. I like anything Disney on TV.
Billy Chin
Member
Curious as to why that troubles you so, rather than addressing my points. Hmmmm. . .
Billy Chin
Member
No
No one was attacked in any way (well, except me, as evidenced by your post). I simply asked a question that obviously struck a nerve with several posters. Although not my intention, the resultant responses (and the general tone of them) have been quite interesting. But I've been very civil in each and every response, and will continue regardless of how others choose to reply.
You'll find your points addressed ad nauseum elsewhere on the forum, which I'm sure you've seen being a long time reader as you said.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
As a long-time reader, no doubt you've read my many replies to this question. Some of my more recent answers are here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/first-the-napkins-now-the-cups.846265/page-27#post-5125270
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...y-world-in-general.852812/page-5#post-5175764
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/fast-pass-plus.855828/page-9#post-5240317
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/disney-once-again-showing-why.857392/page-6#post-5252208
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/fast-pass-plus.855828/page-9#post-5240255
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/why-do-you-members-complain-so-much.854841/#post-5191546
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/is-it-worth-it.857454/page-2#post-5252926
And here:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/is-it-worth-it.857454/page-2#post-5253145
Wow, I guess I have answered the same question many times. I'm still waiting for a reply to my latest post, asking why people find non-functional animatronics, pieces falling off attractions, and higher prices acceptable.
As a long-time poster, I've answered the question for a long time. Of course, I'm not the only one replying so you can imagine how many times the question has been answered. If you haven't read these, perhaps you need to read a bit more.
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
For those who have watched How I Met Your Mother... LAWYERED
DisneyFan381
Member
I DVRed the parade and haven't watched it yet. Was the Lion King float there? LOL
I don't mind watching the parade. It's kinda cheesey, but a good show. I'd be excited to see the Easter Parade again!
I don't mind watching the parade. It's kinda cheesey, but a good show. I'd be excited to see the Easter Parade again!
WildcatDen
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I definitely think we should all be able to be critical of the things we like, especially when they do not live up to expectations. It just seems, in many cases, that the rhetoric starts to border on hateful. Not pointing the finger at you (and definitely not our wandering Spirit) but there are times when the casual reader may begin to wonder what the goal is of the extreme criticality. I am willing to bet, if given the option of spending today at home/work or at WDW, everyone on this site, both the critical and the Pixie Dusters would choose WDW.
WildcatDen
Well-Known Member
It may be simply that the nostalgic value is still higher than anything else people put their vacation stock in? Of course I puzzled this until my puzzler was sore, maybe, just maybe Disney happiness does not come from a store? Maybe, just maybe, it means a little bit more?
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I can get 4 free passes per year through work. I used 2 this year leaving 2 unused that I will lose on Dec. 31st. There were many days this year I COULD have used them but just wasn't interested enough to go the 12 mile down there. So I could have gone for free and chose to stay home instead. But inserting a Disney Day into an otherwise very busy life, well staying home is often underrated.
Now, a Disney VACATION? A vacation ANYWHERE is better than staying home.