Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Prince-1]

Post in thread 'Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs'

Dec 27, 2024

The controversy surrounding Erivo was mild and mostly just cringeworthy. With Rachel it was just controversy after controversy after controversy, and I think most people are aware even if they don't know every minutiae. All it takes is for someone to tell them "hey did you hear what the actress from Disney's upcoming Snow White remake said?" to make them decide "well then not going to watch the movie now".

You’re making the assumption that the majority (or even half) the movie going public pays attention, most don’t.

Don’t take our little slice of the internet as some indication...

• Disney Irish

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Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 10, 2024

I think that’s already going to happen, this film has had more bad press and negativity surrounding it than any other film I can recall, unless the word of mouth is so good it overrides all the previous press I think it’s already beyond the point half the country will ever give it a chance.

I think you’re far over-estimating the number of people who know or care about early publicity.

I'll bet the average person doesn’t have this on their radar screen and the first they’ll see or hear of it will be the trailer, which looks great.

• Chi84

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Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 10, 2024

So personally, looks awful to me. I've been on record for a while that I hate the straight remakes, and this feels like that is exactly what it is (though the actors said otherwise, so who knows at this point).

But, for those worried about the CGI (which does look really awful), that stuff usually does get cleaned up a lot between trailer and release, so don't read TOO much into it. I do agree with whoever said the hair looks bad on her though. I couldn't figure out what looked so off, and that is absolutely what it was. Guess we will see what happens next year.

It can’t be a...

• Chi84

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Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 10, 2024

This is a great point. It’s a bit of recency bias to complain the film was short. For reference, few modern animated films are that much longer than Snow White’s runtime, and falls well within the mean of WDAS output over the decades:

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There is length and there is length. What I’m saying is a modern audience would not sit through 80 minutes with so little plot or action.

That’s probably more an indictment of the attention spans of current audiences than the original film, but having recently watched the original I’m confident in my opinion.

• Chi84

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I'm sure there are more...

OK, those are great quotes but when are you going to show me where someone predicts that it’s going to be a success because none of those did.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

“Snow White received a B+ CinemaScore, which is extremely low grade for this type of Disney genre, for even the middling ones, i.e. Dumbo (A-), Mufasa (A-), Pete’s Dragon (A), and the Maleficent franchise (both As) have top grades with audiences. A fairest grade resides in the Rotten Tomatoes score of 71% for Snow White which is better than Dumbo (47%), and not far from Maleficent (70%) and Cinderella (78%). “

Ho-Hum, Ho-Hum: ‘Snow White’ Opens To $43M — What Poisoned This Princess At The Box Office – Sunday AM Box Office Update

Disney's controversial 'Snow White' begins with $3.5M in previews on Thursday.

deadline.com

 

[Disstevefan1]

Hmmmm….interesting…. I am seeing new posters in this thread that suddenly care about box office now that Snow White released

Folks shouldn’t worry about the box office, it’s obvious Disney doesn’t care.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

 

[Animaniac93-98]

“Snow White received a B+ CinemaScore, which is extremely low grade for this type of Disney genre, for even the middling ones, i.e. Dumbo (A-), Mufasa (A-), Pete’s Dragon (A), and the Maleficent franchise (both As) have top grades with audiences. A fairest grade resides in the Rotten Tomatoes score of 71% for Snow White which is better than Dumbo (47%), and not far from Maleficent (70%) and Cinderella (78%). “

Ho-Hum, Ho-Hum: ‘Snow White’ Opens To $43M — What Poisoned This Princess At The Box Office – Sunday AM Box Office Update

Disney's controversial 'Snow White' begins with $3.5M in previews on Thursday.

deadline.com

The same article has this to say about another release this weekend that was going to be through Disney/Searchlight at one point:

"Briarcliff Entertainment’s recue of Jonathan Majors 2023 Sundance darling Magazine Dreams in which he played a brooding boxer* (far too close to his own real life) did $340K on Friday, for what’s looking like a $755K opening at 815 sites. I hear ticket sales were OK in NY, LA, Atlanta, Chicago and DC and that’s it. Critics always liked the movie at 81% on RT, but audiences at 91% respected it as well. You’ll remember Searchlight bought the movie after Sundance in what was a potential awards season play but following the Majors’ scandal with his girlfriend, they unloaded the movie."


*He plays a competitive bodybuilder in the movie. A bit of poor writing on Deadline's part

 

[John park hopper]

Folks shouldn’t worry about the box office, it’s obvious Disney doesn’t care.

Any money they loose will be made up in park prices increases, cut staff, cut any freebies that are left and then off to make another crap movie

 

[Tha Realest]

Any money they loose will be made umm in park prices increases, cut staff, cut any freebies that are left and then off to make another crap movie

Don’t you know? Box office is only part of the equation now. Think of all the truckloads of money that will come in as people sign up for D+ memberships to watch a B+ Cinemascore movie…once.

 

[TP2000]

Where did people predict that SW was going to be a huge success?? I don’t think anyone has said that.

This was about a week ago...

The movie is going to be a huge success. Even if it slips a little bit, it won't be because it's "Woke". It will more likely be because of where they placed it in the spring movie season. This should have been marketed in the summer "blockbuster" months with a higher marketing budget. Even still, this movie is going to be an excellent box office performer.

It's early but are you saying that Anora is a p*rnographic film??

Best Picture winner Anora was rated R for the following, per the MPAA...

"Rated R for strong sexual content throughout, graphic nudity, pervasive language, and drug use."

To paraphrase a very wise Federal Judge from 60 years ago... "I can't define p*rnography, but I know it when I see it."

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

10:00am IMAX today (after 10 so this includes walk ups)

 

[TP2000]

Saturday morning box office reports and revised projections (downward) are now coming in from the Hollywood trade papers;

Box Office: ‘Snow White’ in Danger of Biting Poison Apple, on Course for $45M Domestic Opening

Elsewhere, Jonathan Majors' comeback pic 'Magazine Dreams' appears DOA.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Ho-Hum, Ho-Hum: ‘Snow White’ Opens To $43M — What Poisoned This Princess At The Box Office – Sunday AM Box Office Update

Disney's controversial 'Snow White' begins with $3.5M in previews on Thursday.

deadline.com

Variety tries its best to put a good sping on things in their intro, but a few paragraphs in the box office reality sets in as they acknowledge the $250+ production budget for Rachel Zegler's Snow White and how that presents a very steep hill for this movie to climb to merely breaking even.

Box Office: ‘Snow White’ Awakens With $16 Million Opening Day as ‘Alto Knights’ Bombs

Disney's 'Snow White' remake, starring Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot, is opening on top of the box office. Robert De Niro's 'The Alto Knights' is bombing.

variety.com

 

[Agent H]

You, Chi, Disney Irish, Tony and others constantly think you can gang up on people here and disrespect them just because you don't like their opinions.

I'm done with this game, find someone else to harass.

There are opinions and then there are facts. You seem to be confusing them.

 

[erasure fan1]

A lot of straw men here.

I will simply say that the idea that, “recognizing and being honest about bigotry is what really divides us,” is a very old and a very silly idea.

I Don't believe recognizing and being honest about it is dividing us. Is that what you think you're doing? Accusing everyone that they're a bunch of racist bigots or whatever phobe you want to insert is hardly being honest. What you do is shame and bully if someone doesn't agree. As I said, we won't see eye to eye on this. What you call strawman I say is you deflecting and moving the goalposts.

 

[brideck]

Variety tries its best to put a good sping on things in their intro, but a few paragraphs in the box office reality sets in as they acknowledge the $250+ production budget for Rachel Zegler's Snow White and how that presents a very steep hill for this movie to climb to merely breaking even.

I'm confused. Is it Rachel Zegler's Snow White or is it Bob Iger's Snow White? I just don't know who to believe anymore!

 

[Tha Realest]

I'm confused. Is it Rachel Zegler's Snow White or is it Bob Iger's Snow White? I just don't know who to believe anymore!

Did Bog Iger even acknowledge it during the shareholder call this week?

 

[erasure fan1]

I have not checked grosses… but Sleepless in Seattle, When Harry Met Sally, and Grease all feel like they may have been hits in their day… at least that is what immediately pops in my head

I'm not saying none of them did well. But like you said, I'd have to check the box office of a bunch of them. I just don't remember very many of them doing big money.

 

[brideck]

Accusing everyone that they're a bunch of racist bigots or whatever phobe you want to insert is hardly being honest.

For me, this always comes down to how people have different definitions for what racism is and looks like. I would guess that you fall closer to the camp of racism is direct personal negative action (slurs, overt refusal of services/opportunities, etc.) and not the more systemic meanings of the term.

 

[brideck]

Did Bog Iger even acknowledge it during the shareholder call this week?

You made me do a double-take. I literally just corrected my own "Bog Iger" typo in the post you're quoting.

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question. I don't pay attention to that stuff.

 

[Agent H]

You made me do a double-take. I literally just corrected my own "Bog Iger" typo in the post you're quoting.

Unfortunately, I can't answer your question. I don't pay attention to that stuff.

It’s less annoying than the “bob Igor” I see in toxic YouTube comments sections.

 

[DKampy]

10:00am IMAX today (after 10 so this includes walk ups)

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Who goes to the theater at 10:00 on a Saturday morning? I remember attending a screening for The Force Awakens at 1:00 PM opening weekend…. I got there early due to expected crowds…. Which my theater was full…I am guessing the previous showing might have been 10:00… well when that movie ended…only 1 family and a couple of other stragglers exited….I Was surprised at the time… as I had assumed every showtime would be a near sellout

 

[Tha Realest]

Who goes to the theater at 10:00 on a Saturday morning?

Tell us you don’t have young kids without telling us you don’t have young kids