Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

erasure fan1

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She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.
I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.
 

brideck

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I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.

Something I don't think I've seen even mentioned in this thread... Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.
I always say it's difficult for people to think outside their own experience, which is true for me too.

It seems this movie is directed toward kids and families. The people who don't like her political comments would have to not take their kids to a film they would otherwise see because of comments that have nothing to do with the film. That seems juvenile/petty to me, but again that's just my opinion.

If it's important for people to take a stand against the star's comments by not seeing the film, they won't see it. I don't get it, but as I said people are different.
 

LittleBuford

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Zegler insulted millions upon millions of people with a hateful comment. Did she apologize? Sure. But she specifically targeted an extremely large group of people. Of course there was going to be a very large backlash. Sure it's her opinion but come on, she walked up to the line and then took a running jump past it. So yea, people are going to talk about it.
Comments like this fudge the timeline and gloss over the fact that the anger towards her was already at boiling point well before she made her political remarks. Those remarks were pounced on to vindicate the outrage; they did not give rise to it.
 

LittleBuford

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Something I don't think I've seen even mentioned in this thread... Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?
I hadn’t even heard about his statements (which is telling given that pretty much all my celebrity news comes from this forum).
 

Trauma

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And yet if its a well reviewed movie that does well there will be excuses made by the other side as well, such as "paid reviews" and "people just saw it because of nostalgia" and any other number of excuses I've seen thrown around here for years when a Disney movie does well.
I could care less about reviews. Does it make money or not.

If yes then it’s a success, if no it’s a failure.

Very simple.
 

Trauma

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It's easier to pick on young women.
These statements are beyond ridiculous.

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Vegas Disney Fan

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If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.
A lot probably will, a lot of others probably won’t, this could be the greatest movie ever made and a large portion of the people who don’t like her will never give it a chance.

That’s the problem with entertainment, with endless options no one needs to see anything so it becomes extremely easy to “boycott” something even if you never intentionally meant to.

Once the damage is done it’s impossible to undo it, all you can hope for is to minimize it.
 

Trauma

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Ridiculous but true, just like a lot of things these days
Aww did someone say something mean about the poor little hate filled millionaire ?

She is a public figure and all public figures are subject to intense scrutiny.

If she doesn’t like it she can always step away from the spotlight.
 

Willmark

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I think it’s at step #9 in the process?


For my own part I have no particular interest in seeing this, the first movie that has caught my interest this year is FF so I’m more of an observer of the SW proceedings.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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It's easier to pick on young women.
The news/tabloids/youtubers report on what get clicks, it’s more profitable to pick on disliked people.

I had not heard about any controversy so I googled it all I could find was he’s moving to New Zealand because he thinks T is destroying the US and he finds it horrifying… which is a fairly normal thing to say about a politician you don’t like, a pretty far cry from saying you hope people who voted for him never find peace though.
 
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erasure fan1

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Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?
Honestly I'm not sure. But if there's an avatar movie that is vulnerable, it's this next one in my opinion. So if you off enough people, you might find yourself with a significant drop. If it does another 2bil, well it's probably untouchable. I think the difference with Cameron and Zegler is he's been a proven money maker for a very long time. The big difference, I believe, is Cameron went off on the administration and his opinion about what's happening. Unless there's something different that I haven't seen so please quote if it's something different. What he didn't do was insult and hate and wish ill on the people who voted for him.
Comments like this fudge the timeline and gloss over the fact that the anger towards her was already at boiling point well before she made her political remarks.
How so? I said it was a problem with the original film comments, and that just fueled that vocal group to just keep attacking. That's the timeline. The og film stuff then the political. Did she deserve all the hate for the original movie comments? No. But knowing how people were reacting, makes the political comments even more baffling.
 

brideck

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Honestly I'm not sure. But if there's an avatar movie that is vulnerable, it's this next one in my opinion. So if you off enough people, you might find yourself with a significant drop. If it does another 2bil, well it's probably untouchable. I think the difference with Cameron and Zegler is he's been a proven money maker for a very long time. The big difference, I believe, is Cameron went off on the administration and his opinion about what's happening. Unless there's something different that I haven't seen so please quote if it's something different. What he didn't do was insult and hate and wish ill on the people who voted for him.

My perspective (from observing general sentiment on social media) is that making either type of statement is more or less equivalent in the eyes of a true believer. After all, celebrities should just keep their mouths shut about politics, no?

If anything, one is a deeply held position and the other was an off-the-cuff impassioned statement that went too far (but is probably informed by a similar deeply held position to Cameron's). People should take no more offense at the second one, since it's been apologized for. Humans are emotional beings who inadvertently let slip terrible things all the time. Some people even say terrible things all the time on purpose. (On the Internet, we call them trolls.) Zegler is far from that kind of person. Recognizing that and having the ability to forgive should be commonplace.
 
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Chi84

Premium Member
The news/tabloids/youtubers report on what get clicks, it’s more profitable to pick on disliked people.

I had not heard about any controversy so I googled it all I could find was he’s moving to New Zealand because he thinks T is destroying the US and he finds it horrifying… which is a fairly normal thing to say about a politician you don’t like, a pretty far cry from saying you hope people who voted for him never find peace though.
Right. And what did Halle Bailey do?
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Right. And what did Halle Bailey do?
I don’t remember any outlets (YouTube or other) I watch reporting on any controversial comments from her. Maybe I missed them. I remember a lot of people upset Disney cast a black actor as Ariel but that’s it.

The only “rage” channel I watch is the Critical Drinker and I just looked and he did 1 video on the little mermaid, a review, that got 2.2 million views… he’s done 8 videos on Snow White with a combined total over 23 million views. Bailey seemed to avoid the rage machine much better than Zegler is.
 

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