Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Chi84]

I don't think that's really a fair assessment. From my observation, and my own opinion. When people say they don't care what celebrities say, they don't want hear them preaching to us. Things like, their political views, environmental stuff, the economy... Not many want to hear about the environment or the cost of groceries from people flying around on private jets making millions.

Zegler insulted millions upon millions of people with a hateful comment. Did she apologize? Sure. But she specifically targeted an extremely large group of people. Of course there was going to be a very large backlash. Sure it's her opinion but come on, she walked up to the line and then took a running jump past it. So yea, people are going to talk about it.

She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Amy word of mouth/"reviews" right now are not critical reviews or any sort of indicator. They are part of the promotion campaign and payed for by Disney one way or another.

 

[Trauma]

She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.

A small percentage of 74 million people is still a lot of $$$.

 

[Chi84]

A small percentage of 74 million people is still a lot of $$$.

I really don’t think so. It has to be further narrowed by the number who planned to see the movie in the first place. It’s older IP so it’s not like Mermaid or Lion King where people grew up with it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.

 

[Trauma]

I really don’t think so. It has to be further narrowed by the number who planned to see the movie in the first place. It’s older IP so it’s not like Mermaid or Lion King where people grew up with it.

So if it has a more narrow audience why did Disney spend so much money on it?

I’m just trying to make sense of your theories.

 

[Trauma]

If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.

Yes but if it’s not a good move it’s important to have a built in excuse for its failure.

Those darn racists!!

 

[Chi84]

So if it has a more narrow audience why did Disney spend so much money on it?

I’m just trying to make sense of your theories.

From what I read on these threads, Disney is an incompetent company that has no idea what it’s doing and spends money indiscriminately.

 

[Prince-1]

To be fair, the first poster who brought up Meryl Streep was creating and attacking a straw man. As one might expect, this caused a dust up. The bottom line is that no one is saying Gal Gadot is the next Meryl Streep and no one is saying Rachel Zegler is the next Meryl Streep. Everyone seems to be in agreement with that.

But will Rachel Zegler be the next Gal Gadot?? That's the question that needs to be answered.

 

[Chi84]

Yes but if it’s not a good move it’s important to have a built in excuse for its failure.

Those darn racists!!

I’m more worried about the people who actually saw the original

 

[Chi84]

If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.

This may be exactly it. Disney thought if it made a good movie, people would go to see it.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes but if it’s not a good move it’s important to have a built in excuse for its failure.

And yet if its a well reviewed movie that does well there will be excuses made by the other side as well, such as "paid reviews" and "people just saw it because of nostalgia" and any other number of excuses I've seen thrown around here for years when a Disney movie does well.

 

[Chi84]

And yet if its a well reviewed movie that does well there will be excuses made by the other side as well, such as "paid reviews" and "people just saw it because of nostalgia" and any other number of excuses I've seen thrown around here for years when a Disney movie does well.

Not to mention the break-even point increasing exponentially.

 

[erasure fan1]

She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.

I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.

 

[brideck]

I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.

Something I don't think I've seen even mentioned in this thread... Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?

 

[Disney Irish]

Not to mention the break-even point increasing exponentially.

Unfortunately those axes aren’t going to grind themselves.

 

[Chi84]

I'd agree the backlash was from a small percentage with the comments about the original film. Not so much with the political stuff. I know plenty of people who have no skin in the Disney race that have chimed in on it. And not just one side. That comment solidified the vocal minority of the Internet would be relentless. But I think there's a lot more than just them being vocal.

I always say it's difficult for people to think outside their own experience, which is true for me too.

It seems this movie is directed toward kids and families. The people who don't like her political comments would have to not take their kids to a film they would otherwise see because of comments that have nothing to do with the film. That seems juvenile/petty to me, but again that's just my opinion.

If it's important for people to take a stand against the star's comments by not seeing the film, they won't see it. I don't get it, but as I said people are different.

 

[Chi84]

Something I don't think I've seen even mentioned in this thread... Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?

It's easier to pick on young women.

 

[LittleBuford]

Zegler insulted millions upon millions of people with a hateful comment. Did she apologize? Sure. But she specifically targeted an extremely large group of people. Of course there was going to be a very large backlash. Sure it's her opinion but come on, she walked up to the line and then took a running jump past it. So yea, people are going to talk about it.

Comments like this fudge the timeline and gloss over the fact that the anger towards her was already at boiling point well before she made her political remarks. Those remarks were pounced on to vindicate the outrage; they did not give rise to it.

 

[LittleBuford]

Something I don't think I've seen even mentioned in this thread... Have people expressed similar outrage over James Cameron's recent political statements? Is there any big move to boycott the remaining Avatar movies? Or is he, perhaps, too big to pick on?

I hadn’t even heard about his statements (which is telling given that pretty much all my celebrity news comes from this forum).