Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Farerb]

I'm not sure why the comparison was made anyway (it seems a bit random and irrelevant), but I don't think its unreasonable to deem Streep the superior actor. That's not a slight on Zegler; few actors can match Streep in range and talent.

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What frustrates me about the whole ordeal is the fans mocking Zegler over her acting ability and claiming Gadot is better. I think criticizing Zegler's statements and personality is fair game, but I'm sorry, I'm not going to play along with this alternate reality where we pretend she's a bad actress and that Gadot is the next Meryl Streep. Clearly, not enough people saw Spielberg's version of West Side Story.

Not sure why the context of why Meryl Streep was in my post keeps being ignored by various users around here.

 

[LittleBuford]

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Not sure why the context of why Meryl Streep was in my post keeps being ignored by various users around here.

I didn't refer to your post.

 

[Chi84]

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Not sure why the context of why Meryl Streep was in my post keeps being ignored by various users around here.

I think it’s because you misconstrued the meaning of @Ghost93 ’s post. He wasn’t making an actual comparison but was pointing out how silly it would be.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Should Disney have made Snow - No, but you can make a list of movies they should not have made.
Will Snow make 1B - No
Will Snow break even - I think it will break even or make a little given the access media numbers. And really that's all Disney wants out of this, at this point.

NOTE: The real numbers to make Snow with the reshoots and the actual cost to market is unknown.

 

[WoundedDreamer]

I think it’s because you misconstrued the meaning of @Ghost93 ’s post. He wasn’t making an actual comparison but was pointing out how silly it would be.

To be fair, the first poster who brought up Meryl Streep was creating and attacking a straw man. As one might expect, this caused a dust up. The bottom line is that no one is saying Gal Gadot is the next Meryl Streep and no one is saying Rachel Zegler is the next Meryl Streep. Everyone seems to be in agreement with that.

 

[Trauma]

Should Disney have made Snow - No, but you can make a list of movies they should not have made.
Will Snow make 1B - No
Will Snow break even - I think it will break even or make a little given the access media numbers. And really that's all Disney wants out of this at this point.

NOTE: The real numbers to make Snow with the reshoots and the actual cost to market is unknown.

It doesn’t matter what the real numbers are. The access media just needs to be able to spin some type of success story. Maybe they will trumpet about how it makes more than the 1937 film as if inflation doesn’t exist.

 

[Chi84]

To be fair, the first poster who brought up Meryl Streep was creating and attacking a straw man. As one might expect, this caused a dust up. The bottom line is that no one is saying Gal Gadot is the next Meryl Streep and no one is saying Rachel Zegler is the next Meryl Streep. Everyone seems to be in agreement with that.

Exactly. I didn’t mean to say otherwise. It wasn’t so much a straw man though because he wasn’t making an actual comparison.

 

[Chi84]

It doesn’t matter what the real numbers are. The access media just needs to be able to spin some type of success story. Maybe they will trumpet about how it makes more than the 1937 film as if inflation doesn’t exist.

At this point no one knows if it’s spin or the movie is actually good.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It doesn’t matter what the real numbers are. The access media just needs to be able to spin some type of success story. Maybe they will trumpet about how it makes more than the 1937 film as if inflation doesn’t exist.

Good point - this will absolutely happen! So for Disney, mission accomplished!!!

 

[Ghost93]

To be fair, the first poster who brought up Meryl Streep was creating and attacking a straw man. As one might expect, this caused a dust up. The bottom line is that no one is saying Gal Gadot is the next Meryl Streep and no one is saying Rachel Zegler is the next Meryl Streep. Everyone seems to be in agreement with that.

Maybe one of the CGI dwarves will surprise us and be the next Meryl Streep.

 

[Disstevefan1]

At this point no one knows if it’s spin or the movie is actually good.

We will know for real by end of week when real movie goers watch and give their opinion on social media and YouTube.

It will be interesting to watch.

 

[erasure fan1]

People: No one cares about what celebrities say

Same people: can you believe the awful comments from Rachel Zegler

Personally I find the whole thing ridiculous..

I don't think that's really a fair assessment. From my observation, and my own opinion. When people say they don't care what celebrities say, they don't want hear them preaching to us. Things like, their political views, environmental stuff, the economy... Not many want to hear about the environment or the cost of groceries from people flying around on private jets making millions.

Zegler insulted millions upon millions of people with a hateful comment. Did she apologize? Sure. But she specifically targeted an extremely large group of people. Of course there was going to be a very large backlash. Sure it's her opinion but come on, she walked up to the line and then took a running jump past it. So yea, people are going to talk about it.

 

[Chi84]

I don't think that's really a fair assessment. From my observation, and my own opinion. When people say they don't care what celebrities say, they don't want hear them preaching to us. Things like, their political views, environmental stuff, the economy... Not many want to hear about the environment or the cost of groceries from people flying around on private jets making millions.

Zegler insulted millions upon millions of people with a hateful comment. Did she apologize? Sure. But she specifically targeted an extremely large group of people. Of course there was going to be a very large backlash. Sure it's her opinion but come on, she walked up to the line and then took a running jump past it. So yea, people are going to talk about it.

She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Amy word of mouth/"reviews" right now are not critical reviews or any sort of indicator. They are part of the promotion campaign and payed for by Disney one way or another.

 

[Trauma]

She may have insulted millions upon millions of people but the backlash is only from a small percentage of them - the ones who both heard and care.

A small percentage of 74 million people is still a lot of $$$.

 

[Chi84]

A small percentage of 74 million people is still a lot of $$$.

I really don’t think so. It has to be further narrowed by the number who planned to see the movie in the first place. It’s older IP so it’s not like Mermaid or Lion King where people grew up with it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.

 

[Trauma]

I really don’t think so. It has to be further narrowed by the number who planned to see the movie in the first place. It’s older IP so it’s not like Mermaid or Lion King where people grew up with it.

So if it has a more narrow audience why did Disney spend so much money on it?

I’m just trying to make sense of your theories.

 

[Trauma]

If Snow is a good movie folks will go to see it and tell their friends its as simple as that.

Yes but if it’s not a good move it’s important to have a built in excuse for its failure.

Those darn racists!!

 

[Chi84]

So if it has a more narrow audience why did Disney spend so much money on it?

I’m just trying to make sense of your theories.

From what I read on these threads, Disney is an incompetent company that has no idea what it’s doing and spends money indiscriminately.