Construction bids going out for TLM attraction?

EpcotServo

Well-Known Member
Servo, just be glad MK may be getting it's first E-ticket in 17(Well by the time it's done 18 or 19?) years.:lol:

You're just glad the Submarine Pilots can't beat you Skippers in the Kissimmee Cup anymore!

*Throws glass of water and runs away crying*

:lol:
 

Figment632

New Member
No, no more Nemo. We already have a huge musical show, and an entire pavilion at Epcot dedicated to the fish, and TLM is one of the most popular animated films of all time.

And don't compare what this attraction will be compared to the show at DHS. The ride could make the show look like SGE.



The Living Seas=TLS

Agreed enough of the clown fish, enough making multiple attractions for one character, if you have to have a character based ride at least make sure it's a character that doesn't gave a whole pavilion already. I understand that there is a TLM show in DHS but I don't expect it to be around much longer. It's only a matter of time till that building is abdorbed into Pixar Place.
 

SirGoofy

Member
http://www.20kride.com/content/behind/Kissimmee_Cup.jpg

Yearly competition in which boat captains of the two rides could get more people through. 20K Always won by a slim margin, even though 20K loaded slower.
:lol: :D

For more Sub Captain awesomeness from the Lagoon, see...
http://www.20kride.com/photos_behind.html

Oh cool, we did that with Kilimanjaro over the Christmas season and totally kicked their butts.

EDIT:Man that lagoon was such a great view. :brick:
 

goodtimes5286

New Member
Sorry, The Seas with Nemo and Friends.

TLS = The Living Seas, I had a brain fart... :brick: :lol:
Thanx 2 you and other people. It's not your fault, im just REALLY bad with acronyms, it took me FOREVER to find out what JTTCOTE was, esp since its not even here
No, no more Nemo. We already have a huge musical show, and an entire pavilion at Epcot dedicated to the fish, and TLM is one of the most popular animated films of all time.

And don't compare what this attraction will be compared to the show at DHS. The ride could make the show look like SGE.

The Living Seas=TLS
Yeah but those things are at different parks, different parks offer different ride experiences. Just because Toy Story is in MK didn't stop them from dropping them in DHS. And I would MUCH rather have two different rides from the same character in two different parks, as opposed to that stitch thing.

As for the show and the pav, those are both pulling in huge numbers. I never have watched the show (b/c i dont really like shows), but the line is huge. I've waited outside for the nemo ride in the pav and the turtle talk with crush show is ALWAYS full (at DCA and WDW) from my experiences.

I'm just using the show as a reference point to show how dated it is
TLS = The Living Seas, and its pretty much the same thing as the Sub ride at DL.
You do realize that TLM has sold north of 30 million copies on various video incarnations, right? And made over $200 million in its original run (which is pretty impressive considering it was the beginning of the animated resurgence for Disney)?
TLM will more than likely swallow huge crowds and is a big attraction that the MK desperately needs. Sorry you don't feel its a good choice, but its a great choice.
Yes, but how long ago was that? I don't see any steamboat willy rides being put into the parks. That was old school, and im not saying people wont like it but it wont draw in the masses like a Wall-E (since everyone likes the dark ride part im gonna go back to a ride that would work the BEST imo as a dark ride) attraction.

Once again, not debating that MK needs a people pleaser, im just going back again to the fact that i think the little mermaid is a bad choice. How many people that go to the parks we're after the little mermaid came out? Now lets fastforward that question for Wall-E. I'm just saying, they could have centered the attraction around a better/newer cast of characters imo.
Agreed enough of the clown fish, enough making multiple attractions for one character, if you have to have a character based ride at least make sure it's a character that doesn't gave a whole pavilion already. I understand that there is a TLM show in DHS but I don't expect it to be around much longer. It's only a matter of time till that building is abdorbed into Pixar Place.
one can hope. i would like to sea the nemo show to go over there (which wouldnt happen) from DAK and give dinoland USA back some land
 

SirGoofy

Member
Yeah but those things are at different parks, different parks offer different ride experiences. Just because Toy Story is in MK didn't stop them from dropping them in DHS. And I would MUCH rather have two different rides from the same character in two different parks, as opposed to that stitch thing.

As for the show and the pav, those are both pulling in huge numbers. I never have watched the show (b/c i dont really like shows), but the line is huge. I've waited outside for the nemo ride in the pav and the turtle talk with crush show is ALWAYS full (at DCA and WDW) from my experiences.

I'm just using the show as a reference point to show how dated it is

Yes, but how long ago was that? I don't see any steamboat willy rides being put into the parks. That was old school, and im not saying people wont like it but it wont draw in the masses like a Wall-E (since everyone likes the dark ride part im gonna go back to a ride that would work the BEST imo as a dark ride) attraction.

Once again, not debating that MK needs a people pleaser, im just going back again to the fact that i think the little mermaid is a bad choice. How many people that go to the parks we're after the little mermaid came out? Now lets fastforward that question for Wall-E. I'm just saying, they could have centered the attraction around a better/newer cast of characters imo.

Believe me, TLM is still INSANELY popular. The dvd was rereleased a few years ago and sold a ton of copies. Ariel is just as popular as Nemo.
 

wdwmagic

Administrator
Moderator
Premium Member
Disney have become very good at keeping secrets since Mission Space.

Also add in that members of WDI are quite rightly more interested in keeping their jobs than leaking things to website.

Then throw in the current economic situation.

All of the above tells us we'll know when Disney tell us. Everything is else is just speculation, and in many cases, very third hand speculation.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Also, just curious, can we get any conformation?
Lee? Martin I know you said it might have been given the go. Plleeeeaaaassseee?:D
No, I can't confirm that it's status has changed in the last few months.
I do know this: It was pretty much a go last year before the economy tanked. All the design work is done. All they need is a nod form the money men and decision-makers.
 

SirGoofy

Member
No, I can't confirm that it's status has changed in the last few months.
I do know this: It was pretty much a go last year before the economy tanked. All the design work is done. All they need is a nod form the money men and decision-makers.

Okay. Thanks, Lee. Here's to hoping.
 

SirGoofy

Member
Disney have become very good at keeping secrets since Mission Space.

Also add in that members of WDI are quite rightly more interested in keeping their jobs than leaking things to website.

Then throw in the current economic situation.

All of the above tells us we'll know when Disney tell us. Everything is else is just speculation, and in many cases, very third hand speculation.

Agreed.

If it's true, and they are moving forward with the project, I would thing it would serve them best to announce it soon.

A Mermaid announcement and opening in 2010/2011, along with the re-opened Space Mountain would be a nice, little, 1-2 punch against Potter.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
The Little Mermiad was the most requested Disney DVD before it's 2006 Platinum re-release (and after Cinderella's 2005 DVD outing).

The movie is still very much loved, has a Broadway show and still makes lots on merchandise. Lines for the Mermaid show at DHS are still long, and yet another DTV was released last year based on it.

Anyone who doesn't think it's still popular is smoking some serious pot.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
Also, the show scenes actually work better in the dark ride at Epcot than in the subs in DL. Strange but true, especially since the Nemo subs are much more elaborate in California.

The sub ride is much better in my opinion. There's a couple of added scenes and a couple of funny jokes that aren't in the seacab version. The seagulls in the lagoon are cute. Unfortunately the incredibly slow loading time doesn't make up for it.

Having been on both, I would say that the experiences are really not all that comparable. The sub ride is longer, has elements of the classic 20K ride that fanboys like all of us like, and is a far more immersive experience. It also uses the "animated fish in the water" technology to a greater extent (i.e., more scenes) than at Epcot.

The Epcot ride, thank goodness, loads at a rate not perilously close to zero like the subs. As far as the technology that makes it look like Nemo is in the water, it does seem to work much better at Epcot -- clearer, easier to see and understand what's going on.

As far as which version I like better, it depends, as marsrunner notes, on the line. A long line kills the subs because they loads so slow (seriously, it almost seems that Dumbo has a higher ride capacity).
 

Rosso11

Well-Known Member
Since the Disneyland version is slowly starting we should soon find out about the DW version. With Florida being so cheap if they are going to build it at all in DW they will build it simultaneously to keep the price down just like Toy Story Mania.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Since the Disneyland version is slowly starting we should soon find out about the DW version. With Florida being so cheap if they are going to build it at all in DW they will build it simultaneously to keep the price down just like Toy Story Mania.
With something like this that is not actually the case. While it is true that the R&D cost would be split between both attractions WDW would do better if it waits until DCA's version is up and running and through the T&A phase. WDW would save money by learning from the inevitable mistakes made on DCA's version and revising their plans accordingly. Providing that they are exact clones of course. Even in cases of building such simple structures as townhouses a builder will typically build one entire building first to work out the bugs before going full bore and building the entire development.
 

marsrunner

New Member
I'm just using the show as a reference point to show how dated it is

That's not really a very logical basis, though, is it? I mean by your rationale shouldn't Peter Pan's Flight be incredibly unpopular because the movie is 56 years old?

And I love Wall-E, its probably my favorite animated movie ever, but there is just no way in hell that Wall-E would pull in anywhere near the number of people that The Little Mermaid (a movie I also love, by the way) would.

As far as which version I like better, it depends, as marsrunner notes, on the line. A long line kills the subs because they loads so slow (seriously, it almost seems that Dumbo has a higher ride capacity).

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I like the Nemo subs. Its fun and pretty entertaining, but I just won't wait in a 45 minute line for it, not even once a visit. Now, if I can walk over there first thing in the morning and get on the ride with a 15 minute wait, then yeah, I'm there.
I told my wife when we were in line that I think it would be faster to build our own submarine than to wait in the line!
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Sounds fantastic! Disney doing something classic and amazing again!


No, I can't confirm that it's status has changed in the last few months.
I do know this: It was pretty much a go last year before the economy tanked. All the design work is done. All they need is a nod form the money men and decision-makers.

Hope it's soon!!!:D
 

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