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[TrainsOfDisney]

When he said that Cars was replacing the Rivers, people cheered.

They would have also cheered if he said “cars is being built beyond big thunder” or “coco is being built beyond big thunder.

 

[SoFloMagic]

Yeah, but the one at DCA is in a park lacking in other top attractions (for the moment) and is one of the best rides around. Based on concept art, this one doesn't seem like it will be as impressive as RSR, but I'd love to be wrong about that.

Regardless, I'm sure you're right that the ILL will sell out for a long time.

Fair. I'm biased toward DCA because Guardians Bouncy Tower and incredicoaster are two of my favorite Disney rides.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Honestly, I’m not sure how many *more* people could go there even if they wanted to given the limited capacity of the rafts. I think that’s how it was designed. If you have young children and you haven’t spent an hour letting them run around TSI before, try it before it’s gone. I don’t think you’ll regret it.

I still think the option of making the rivers U shaped and turning TSI into a peninsula could work. More people would go to it and it’d still allow room for Cars and a walkway between HM and BTM.

 

[Earlie the Pearlie]

They would have also cheered if he said “cars is being built beyond big thunder” or “coco is being built beyond big thunder.

Very true. I thought it was noteworthy because the cheers came specifically after “replacing Tom Sawyer’s Island and the Rivers of America”. They don’t know what we have here.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

You’re a brand new member (joined 45 minutes ago) and insiders have said there was land already planned for the coco expansion “beyond big thunder”

Hopefully you’ll still get your paycheck

Doesn’t take a genius to figure out that developed land is a lot easier and a lot cheaper than undeveloped land

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I can the Riverboat to me is beautiful because it lives through the park and resort in a time which it represents an era that is long decades ago and the ship one way didn't have to exist anymore as a real running. Yes it's on a track but it still chimes with smoke. It's as even more a beautiful thing than The Castle. People would riot for the Castle but the castle is still fantasy.

Yes - Disney World and Disneyland are one of the few places where you ride a real steam powered paddle wheel on a daily basis.

Quite a bit of steam trains around - but very few steamboats. (New Orleans and Louisville KY both have one…..)

Even more rare is the horse drawn streetcar - Disneyland is the only one with true daily operations on the Continent- I don’t count WDW’s trolley parade if they feel like it operation.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

No one can explain why Carsland can’t coexist alongside Liberty Square with a largely intact ROA separating the two.

They don't want the Rivers at all to help foot traffic.. I honestly think they don't want the boat either because they can't build pedestrian bridges They don't want to just change the Island because there's no way to have a bridge or pathway without having to boat in and out.

 

[basas]

I meant at first, but I'd also wager it will be the toughest ILL to get for years. Just look at the ride at DCA

I’m on the record as saying RSR is my favorite ride at DLR. I’d love to have it in WDW…but this isn’t the right location.

I have no doubt the new ride will get long lines. If Moana replaced Pirates it would get long lines, too. If *insert IP* replaced Haunted Mansion, I’m sure it would get long lines, too. If they mow down the castle and plop down zootopia, I’m sure it would get long lines, too. Sorry, not trying to be sarcastic, it’s just not an effective argument for me that this is a good decision.

 

[doctornick]

I still think the option of making the rivers U shaped and turning TSI into a peninsula could work. More people would go to it and it’d still allow room for Cars and a walkway between HM and BTM.

And you can even do that and add a bridge from the CBJ area as well if you wanted to help guest flow.

 

[Doberge]

I love this idea and it might spread some goodwill with the Ft Wilderness faithful after the cabin de-theme. Moving that thing seems doable, but they'd probably axe the caves for 'safety' and replace the rifles/shooting sounds with flower planters or something.

Shhhhhh. Quiet about the rifles still being there!

 

[Captain Barbossa]

This^

They cram those rafts. Every time I’ve taken one there’s been at least 25 people not including the driver. And idk how many trips across they take an hour, but it’s at least 4-5. It’s way more than 400 people per day.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, and anyone else’s, the max capacity for the rafts is 55 people with the ideal max capacity being 40-45. Rafts depart about every 5 minutes, and about 7-10 when they have to wait for the Liberty Belle to pass. And this isn’t me saying that every raft has 40-55 people on it, but I’ll bet an overpriced cupcake that someone will think I am.

 

[SoFloMagic]

I’m on the record as saying RSR is my favorite ride at DLR. I’d love to have it in WDW…but this isn’t the right location.

I have no doubt the new ride will get long lines. If Moana replaced Pirates it would get long lines, too. If *insert IP* replaced Haunted Mansion, I’m sure it get long lines, too. If they mow down the castle and plop down zootopia, I’m sure it get long lines, too. Sorry, not trying to be sarcastic, it’s just not an effective argument for me that this is a good decision.

Maybe we can revisit this once it's built. If they actually try to add nature in, it could be beautiful. And the waterfalls (if not budget cut) could add some of the ambiance that's being lost.

Plus I'll never blow another eardrum from that absurdly loud boat whistle.

 

[MrPromey]

The reservoirs will be outside of the park. Rivers of America is inside the park.

The park is restricted to being inside the border of the railroad unless they completely retrack it.

Why?

Is there some secret rule that Pirates, SM TBA and Space Mountain are breaking that I don't know about which says the train must circle the outer perimeter of the guest areas of the park under all circumstances?

I mean, unlike DL, our train doesn't have you face one side which means giving people on the left side something more interesting to look at wouldn't seem like the end of the world to me.

Is it about getting people across the tracks?

If so, I fail to see where that's an unsolvable problem - again looking at TBA as just one example of a solution (but over would be a doable option, too, of course.

 

[basas]

They don't want the Rivers at all to help foot traffic.. I honestly think they don't want the boat either because they can't build pedestrian bridges They don't want to just change the Island because there's no way to have a bridge or pathway without having to boat in and out.

And you can even do that and add a bridge from the CBJ area as well if you wanted to help guest flow.

I think it’s pretty clear they could make it work *if* they wanted to. Clearly they don’t…

 

[JenniferS]

A theme park that takes 3 days to see is dumb. Nobody needs or wants that.

I do.

 

[Doberge]

This^

They cram those rafts. Every time I’ve taken one there’s been at least 25 people not including the driver. And idk how many trips across they take an hour, but it’s at least 4-5. It’s way more than 400 people per day.

They're also often running two boats.

 

[disney1908]

You’re a brand new member (joined 45 minutes ago) and insiders have said there was land already planned for the coco expansion “beyond big thunder”

Hopefully you’ll still get your paycheck

I don’t claim to be an insider on Disney projects. But when it comes to land use. I know a thing or two. Been working in the central Florida area for quite a few years doing jobs related to use. I’m sure land was planed but planning and actually getting the permits approved is completely different. As for the new members. I have been going on this site for years just never felt the need to join until today. I’m just giving knowledge I have on land use permits. They get very complicated, especially when they come to central Florida and the application to wetlands.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

They would have also cheered if he said “cars is being built beyond big thunder” or “coco is being built beyond big thunder.

Sure, but the point of that post is that the guests don’t care that RoA is going.

Which seems true. Most visitors won’t care.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Are u kidding? This thing isn't opening for a few years. This thread may get to 10,000 pages.

The only main reason this thread is at the top is because of River's of America and Liberty Bell. If Muppets ends up being dumped expect a second thread rivaling behind or front of this one with Monster's Inc Land rant.

 

[basas]

I don’t claim to be an insider on Disney projects. But when it comes to land use. I know a thing or two. Been working in the central Florida area for quite a few years doing jobs related to use. I’m sure land was planed but planning and actually getting the permits approved is completely different. As for the new members. I have been going on this site for years just never felt the need to join until today. I’m just giving knowledge I have on land use permits. They get very complicated, especially when they come to central Florida and the application to wetlands.

I don’t doubt it…but, again, this is Disney. If the will was there they could make it work. They don’t want to.