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[LittleBuford]

Your asking questions you know can’t be answered here without deleted posts and a ban from the thread.
You know what people are talking about stop pretending to be clueless.

I don’t play games. When I ask such questions, I do so because I don’t want to jump to my own conclusions, and I am often surprised by the answers I get.

 

[Touchdown]

She-Hulk Season 1, Episode 1

"I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me. I do it pretty much every day. Because if I don't, I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger, because I do it infinitely more than you. So all of this just feels like projecting a lot of $#!& onto me."

And, you don’t think that’s a legitimate response a female in a high salary traditional male dominated job would say? I hate to tell you but that’s a legitimate thing I see all the time in real life happen to my colleagues, the fact you think this is preaching says a lot.

 

[Kamikaze]

She-Hulk Season 1, Episode 1

"I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me. I do it pretty much every day. Because if I don't, I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger, because I do it infinitely more than you. So all of this just feels like projecting a lot of $#!& onto me."

Yeah, but the thing about this is - its absolutely true for a significant portion of women. Shoving it in peoples faces might upset some, but this is reality for a lot of women. I realize its uncomfortable to have it 'preached' at you in an entertainment program, but they're not saying anything that's out of touch with reality.

 

[LittleBuford]

She-Hulk Season 1, Episode 1

"I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me. I do it pretty much every day. Because if I don't, I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger, because I do it infinitely more than you. So all of this just feels like projecting a lot of $#!& onto me."

Thank you. I don’t really understand how this is preaching. Perhaps the idea is that anything perceived as dealing with (or alluding to) real-life social issues is deemed to be unappealing to general audiences. That’s a shame in my opinion.

 

[Disstevefan1]

She-Hulk Season 1, Episode 1

"I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me. I do it pretty much every day. Because if I don't, I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger, because I do it infinitely more than you. So all of this just feels like projecting a lot of $#!& onto me."

I watched She-hulk, it was silly and funny, but NOT worth the 25 million per episode. For 9 episodes that’s 225 million dollars.

If they were going to throw away 225 million dollars they should have invested in the parks.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

And, you don’t think that’s a legitimate response a female in a high salary traditional male dominated job would say? I hate to tell you but that’s a legitimate thing I see all the time in real life happen to my colleagues, the fact you think this is preaching says a lot.

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"

Yeah, but the thing about this is - its absolutely true for a significant portion of women. Shoving it in peoples faces might upset some, but this is reality for a lot of women. I realize its uncomfortable to have it 'preached' at you in an entertainment program, but they're not saying anything that's out of touch with reality.

That's not saying it's not preaching. That's saying "it's preaching but I agree with the message."

 

[JD80]

I thought She Hulk was fantastic. Probably peak D+ MCU for me.

 

[JD80]

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"


That's not saying it's not preaching. That's saying "it's preaching but I agree with the message."

I mean, "Corporate Finance" is pretty much the definition of sheltered living.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I think the danger there is assuming that’s baked in…

The theme quality of Disney will never be eclipsed because they started installing it standard in 1955…

But they can be overwhelmed some if Comcast just keeps building great stuff in the parks…Disney has lagged considerably unlike ever before here…and you know why?
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I see the source of your confusion now. That guy (Robert Iger) is wearing a suit. The new guy (Bob Iger, Robert's cooler brother) wears a cardigan. The guy in the suit may have mishandled the growth of the parks, but the guy in the cardigan is different even though they bear a striking resemblance to each other.

 

[LittleBuford]

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"


That's not saying it's not preaching. That's saying "it's preaching but I agree with the message."

I don’t agree with you, but leaving that aside, this can’t be the sort of thing people dislike about, say, Strange World, which doesn’t feature any explicit commentary of this kind. That’s why I asked my question: What exactly about Disney’s recent animated movies can be construed as “preaching”? Is representation alone the supposed issue?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I mean, "Corporate Finance" is pretty much the definition of sheltered living.

I was responding to a post telling me that "high salary traditional male dominated job" is where these issues would be most pronounced, and I'm saying I've never seen it in exactly that environment.

 

[Touchdown]

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"

You focus on cat calling? I agree that doesn’t happen much anymore (but then again Tony Stark still did this in Iron Man 2 so not that long ago) but everything else said after it totally still happens and was my point.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don’t agree with you, but leaving that aside, this can’t be the sort of thing people dislike about, say, Strange World, which doesn’t feature any explicit commentary of this kind. That’s why I asked my question: What exactly about Disney’s recent animated movies can be construed as “preaching”? Is representation alone the supposed issue?

The issue (or at least, my issue) is when a myopic focus on representation comes at the expense of quality storytelling. There are content creators for whom the representation is the entire point. She-Hulk is a "girl power" superhero show that exists for the sole purpose of there being a "girl power" superhero show. Nobody bothered to consider if the characters were likeable, the dialogue made any sense, the story fit within established canon, etc. All they cared about was ticking the boxes.

 

[Kamikaze]

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"


That's not saying it's not preaching. That's saying "it's preaching but I agree with the message."

1) Happens literally all the time in any big city or any time a woman exercises (runs) outside. Woman I dated most recently gets beeped at at least once a week walking the barely 1/4 mile to the running/walking greenway because she has a dump truck.

2) Yes.

 

[Prince-1]

You focus on cat calling? I agree that doesn’t happen much anymore (but then again Tony Stark still did this in Iron Man 2 so not that long ago) but everything else said after it totally still happens and was my point.

Iron Man 2 came out over 12 years ago. That is a long time ago.

 

[Disorbust]

I work in corporate finance and I've worked for women my whole career. I have never heard of anyone catcalling or being catcalled in my life. When my wife and I watched the scene, she said "wait, what year is it? Who catcalls anymore?"

Not sure of your age or your wife but having 2 adult daughters in the finance world this nailed the cuture on the head. Catcalling no not-in the office by co-workers but walking down the street, always and espeically when their alone. Man-splaining on the daily and if you push back your being agressive. CONSTANTLY being called "sweetie" or "honey" by older male co-workers. I'm sure it's ment to be sweet, they think they are the father figure, but they should ask themselves would they call their male counter-part Sweetie.

 

[Touchdown]

Iron Man 2 came out over 12 years ago. That is a long time ago.

So in living memory of every adult on the planet, including a lawyer in New York.

 

[Ayla]

…here we go with open mic night

Ignore the troll.

 

[LittleBuford]

The issue (or at least, my issue) is when a myopic focus on representation comes at the expense of quality storytelling. There are content creators for whom the representation is the entire point. She-Hulk is a "girl power" superhero show that exists for the sole purpose of there being a "girl power" superhero show. Nobody bothered to consider if the characters were likeable, the dialogue made any sense, the story fit within established canon, etc. All they cared about was ticking the boxes.

I haven’t seen Strange World yet, so I’ll base my comments on Lightyear. Like many others, I thought it was a really poor movie. The story was weak, the pace ponderous, and the overall concept uninspiring. Yet a good deal of the criticism I was hearing centred on the film’s supposed “wokeness”, as if the diversity of the characters were the issue. This, I would say, is what constitutes a myopic focus on representation, and not what you’re pointing to.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

1) Happens literally all the time in any big city or any time a woman exercises (runs) outside. Woman I dated most recently gets beeped at at least once a week walking the barely 1/4 mile to the running/walking greenway because she has a dump truck.

2) Yes.

Not sure of your age or your wife but having 2 adult daughters in the finance world this nailed the cuture on the head. Catcalling no not-in the office by co-workers but walking down the street, always and espeically when their alone. Man-splaining on the daily and if you push back your being agressive. CONSTANTLY being called "sweetie" or "honey" by older male co-workers. I'm sure it's ment to be sweet, they think they are the father figure, but they should ask themselves would they call their male counter-part Sweetie.

"Single millennial women with a college degree in major downtown metropolitan centers" is an extraordinarily narrow target demographic, particularly for a genre that skews heavily towards boys and adult men.