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[Sirwalterraleigh]

Eh. You get some valid criticisms of the current content, but a lot of the complaints are neckbeards that don't want anything that isn't white men. So even if the content is good, they'll still complain.

…and right on queue.

People that push that are wrong. People telling you you’re one of them if you watch a story that sucks and that makes you one is equally wrong.

“Rey palpatine-skywalker”

 

[ILoveWDW4ever]

other than taking their kids.

Very true!!!. Many parents aren’t taking their kids to Disney movies anymore. I think most people know why that is.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Definitely was at least planned prior to the buyout, yes. I don't know how far it was actually fleshed out, but Feige definitely knew what he wanted to do at least through Ultron.

Which is why the Sequel Trilogy not being written all at once still absolutely baffles me.

See above…

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Eh. You get some valid criticisms of the current content, but a lot of the complaints are neckbeards that don't want anything that isn't white men. So even if the content is good, they'll still complain.

These are the same racist neckbeards who loved Black Panther?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Very true!!!. Many parents aren’t taking their kids to Disney movies anymore. I think most people know why that is.

…here we go with open mic night

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Its complicated, because those series cost more than they can bring in. They don't drive new subscribers, but they help keep people.

Do you know what the biggest single driver of new Disney+ subs was?

Hamilton.

Because it was different - it drew in new people who didn't have it before. But most fans of Marvel/Pixar/Disney/Star Wars already have D+ and don't sub because a new show is coming out, so therefore Disney doesn't get new revenue for Andor or Secret Invasion or whatever.

That's the advantage of the Star content where it's included.

I know people who watch Disney+ but don't care about Marvel/Star Wars that much because of it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Accept that Disney used to be the Rolls Royce of themed entertainment. Being the Cadillac makes them on par with Universal. Cadillac, in my mind, is like cheap luxury.

I think the danger there is assuming that’s baked in…

The theme quality of Disney will never be eclipsed because they started installing it standard in 1955…

But they can be overwhelmed some if Comcast just keeps building great stuff in the parks…Disney has lagged considerably unlike ever before here…and you know why?

 

[LittleBuford]

The general public will see a movie that looks visually appealing. Has recognizable characters, and won’t preach at them. Much like Minions. It will be a massive hit.

What constitutes “preaching” for you in the context of such movies? Can you give a concrete example?

 

[Trauma]

I think the danger there is assuming that’s baked in…

The theme quality of Disney will never be eclipsed because they started installing it standard in 1955…

But they can be overwhelmed some if Comcast just keeps building great stuff in the parks…Disney has lagged considerably unlike ever before here…and you know why?

I think your underestimating the cultural significance of the Splash re-theme.

That should drive attendance for a decade, eventually shuttering Universal Parks altogether.

 

[Touchdown]

Yup Frozen, Tangled, Coco and Moana 4 massive hits from 5-10 years ago that could sustain a land and certainly an E ticket. How many attractions currently at WDW devoted to them? One reskinned D-ticket, a hastily put together clip show sing a long, 1 meet and greet and a bathroom. Pathetic.

 

[Kamikaze]

These are the same racist neckbeards who loved Black Panther?

…and right on queue.

People that push that are wrong. People telling you you’re one of them if you watch a story and sucks that makes you one is equally wrong.

“Rey palpatine-skywalker”

You mean like this guy:

Or this guy:


And read the comments. Just because you aren't a racist neckbeard doesn't mean there aren't racist neckbeards. Just because you don't like something that doesn't make you a racist or sexist. And you have every right to not like something because you just didn't enjoy it. But if your main reason for not watching or enjoying something is because of the characters sex or race, then guess what - you ARE.

If you guys don't think that there is a racist and sexist undertone to a lot of the 'geek' fandoms, I don't know what to tell you than to open your eyes and read /r/marvelstudios every once in a while. What was the #1 complaint there about Ms. Marvel (without even watching it)? 'I can't relate to a teenage Pakistani Muslim girl'. But you can relate to giant green Hulks (but not female ones), various aliens, Norse gods, baby (and JACKED UP) trees, and guys that shoot arrows impossibly well? Those are all fine, but brown people 'I just can't relate'. That's literally racism.

 

[Kamikaze]

What constitutes “preaching” for you in the context of such movies? Can you give a concrete example?

You know exactly what they mean.

 

[LittleBuford]

You know exactly what they mean.

No, I don’t. I wouldn’t be asking if I did.

 

[dreday3]

Oh lord.

 

[Trauma]

No, I don’t. I wouldn’t be asking if I did.

Your asking questions you know can’t be answered here without deleted posts and a ban from the thread.
You know what people are talking about stop pretending to be clueless.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

And read the comments. Just because you aren't a racist neckbeard doesn't mean there aren't racist neckbeards. Just because you don't like something that doesn't make you a racist or sexist. And you have every right to not like something because you just didn't enjoy it. But if your main reason for not watching or enjoying something is because of the characters sex or race, then guess what - you ARE.

If you guys don't think that there is a racist and sexist undertone to a lot of the 'geek' fandoms, I don't know what to tell you than to open your eyes and read /r/marvelstudios every once in a while. What was the #1 complaint there about Ms. Marvel (without even watching it)? 'I can't relate to a teenage Pakistani Muslim girl'. But you can relate to giant green Hulks (but not female ones), various aliens, Norse gods, baby (and JACKED UP) trees, and guys that shoot arrows impossibly well? Those are all fine, but brown people 'I just can't relate'. That's literally racism.

The criticism of Ms. Marvel makes me so sad because it's such a friggin wholesome show, and probably one of the most small-c conservative projects Disney has put out in years. It's about family and friendship and duty and tradition.

But She-Hulk is legit butt tho.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You mean like this guy:

Or this guy:


And read the comments. Just because you aren't a racist neckbeard doesn't mean there aren't racist neckbeards. Just because you don't like something that doesn't make you a racist or sexist. And you have every right to not like something because you just didn't enjoy it. But if your main reason for not watching or enjoying something is because of the characters sex or race, then guess what - you ARE.

If you guys don't think that there is a racist and sexist undertone to a lot of the 'geek' fandoms, I don't know what to tell you than to open your eyes and read /r/marvelstudios every once in a while. What was the #1 complaint there about Ms. Marvel (without even watching it)? 'I can't relate to a teenage Pakistani Muslim girl'. But you can relate to giant green Hulks (but not female ones), various aliens, Norse gods, baby (and JACKED UP) trees, and guys that shoot arrows impossibly well? Those are all fine, but brown people 'I just can't relate'. That's literally racism.

That’s why I said (not well): they’re BOTH wrong.

I can…and do…call out crap thar doesn’t make me a bigot at all.

Both can be and are true.
I can watch anything well written and acted and love the hell out of it.

The mouth breather trolls you posted need to be eliminated.

 

[Kamikaze]

The criticism of Ms. Marvel makes me so sad because it's such a friggin wholesome show, and probably one of the most small-c conservative projects Disney has put out in years. It's about family and friendship and duty and tradition.

But She-Hulk is legit butt tho.

Ms Marvel is my favorite D+ Marvel show - by far.

She-Hulk I couldn't get into at all. Watched it, obv, but it didn't have the 'fun' that I've gotten from most Marvel stuff. I'm not a fan of 4th wall breaking (even though I did like the finale).

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What constitutes “preaching” for you in the context of such movies? Can you give a concrete example?

She-Hulk Season 1, Episode 1

"I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time. When I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me. I do it pretty much every day. Because if I don't, I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger, because I do it infinitely more than you. So all of this just feels like projecting a lot of $#!& onto me."

 

[Kamikaze]

That’s why I said (not well): they’re BOTH wrong.

I can…and do…call out crap thar doesn’t make me a bigot at all.

Both can be and are true.
I can watch anything well written and acted and love the hell out of it.

The mouth breather trolls you posted need to be eliminated.

Yeah I think we talked past each other on that one.