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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
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Disney Analyst
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Hearing January 20th for Disney+ release.
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Disney+ Release Date Revealed
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is still pulling in audiences at the worldwide box office, but now the Disney+ streaming debut is on the horizon.
movieweb.com
Disney has confirmed Black Panther: Wakanda Forever will hit Disney+ on February 1st.
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Watch Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Full Movie | Disney+
The Wakandans fight to protect the nation from intervening powers following King T’Challa’s death.
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82 Days
_caleb
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WAAAYYY too soon! Another example of how Disney’s focus on streaming is cutting into their box office revenues!
The old standard for tentpoles was 90 days in the theaters, so... off by a week.
Perhaps you're remembering that there were other "pay windows" such as PPV, Premium Channels, DVD, and then broadcast which kept a movie from getting to TV for at least 6 months.
Ghost93
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I miss the days of 120-180 theatrical windows. But then again, I'm firmly on the team of "protect theatrical moviegoing at all costs!"
Marvel is the one franchise that can't afford such lengthy theatrical windows because they release 3-4 movies a year now.
_caleb
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Sorry- this was an attempt at a joke. I was teasing all the armchair box office experts in this thread.
I do hope everyone watches Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, and though!
Animaniac93-98
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Less than 90 days after its theatrical release.
Had a feeling this would be the case, which is why I didn't want to pay to see it in theaters too.
Had a feeling this would be the case, which is why I didn't want to pay to see it in theaters too.
Phroobar
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That isn't even enough time to sell DVDs or show on pay-per-view. Remember when we had to wait seven years to see Star Wars on tv. It was years before it was on VHS.
_caleb
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I would think it's safe to say that neither DVDs nor pay-per-view continue to be reliable growth areas for The Walt Disney Company.
Jedijax719
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
PVOD is the new pay-per-view and I would say it can be a growth area for TWDC, they really do need to lean into the PVOD model more with digital rentals.
Prince-1
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I think they have a very good idea of what they are doing.
Prince-1
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DVDs lol. Is the soundtrack coming out on cassette?
_caleb
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Apple did a lot of research on this through iTunes sales/rentals. They concluded that people prefer to purchase shows/series, but "rent" movies. But then they went all-in on subscriptions for everything.
Yes. My post was an attempt to tease those who think otherwise. Since Iger started talking about DtC, Disney has made it clear that they're all-in on streaming and have deliberately de-emphasized theatrical releases for all but the biggest films. They know what they're doing, even if theater chains and cinephiles don't like it.
Black Panther made a ton of money for Disney in theaters, and now it's going to make a ton of money for Disney through subscriptions.
Disney Irish
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Which is exactly my point, PVOD is something that Disney needs to lean into more for theatrical releases. They sort of do with Amazon and iTunes digital purchase/rental. But they should bring back the Premier Access to D+ and offer new releases for rental for 3 months after the theatrical release is over. So you get like 70-90 days of theatrical and 90 days of Premier Access on D+. So by the 5th or 6th month point when it goes to regular D+ access its hopefully had gotten a nice return.
_caleb
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I'm sure they're looking at it.
Disney doesn't want to have to share revenue with Apple/Amazon, when they've got D+, and I think they've made it clear they want to be less dependent upon cinemas. If streaming--even after a long theatrical window--removes some of the incentive to see a film in theaters, I would imagine it has a similar effect on mid-run services like Premier/PVOD.
And Disney must not have been too pleased with the initial performance of Premier Access, or I think we'd be seeing it used a lot more.
Disney Irish
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I'm sure they are looking at it as well. And I agree Disney wants to share as little money as possible with outside entities. This is why a longer term strategy to include a PVOD feature like Premier Access only makes sense for D+ long term. Premier Access was a test balloon to see if consumers would accept it, and it appears they did.
They were pleased enough to use it 5 times. And even indicated they would use it again in the future. So yeah I say they were pleased with it overall.
I am guessing the release date is scheduled for D+ as being a couple of weeks before the next Marvel theatrical film… I am going to guess we are going to see this happening with each new film for the time being… although I think they need to figure out how to lengthen the pay window… as I think this strategy will cut into their profitability