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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
- Thread starter Lucky Rabbit
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Disney Analyst
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That is the question... It's such a minor scene, but we all know what the CCP censors are like.
You are correct everyone probably deserves… but if any award is probably a front runner it is Angela Basset based on the trends at other awards shows.
The more tight locked race is best actor…it is becoming a 3 person race between Austin, Brandon, and Colin… and I really have no idea who will win or even the favorite
Now on streaming. Let the meme-ification begin!!
Vegas Disney Fan
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Watching on D+ and praying the cinematography lightens up at some point, it’s so dark I can barely tell what’s happening, reminds me of why I dislike so many DC movies, they make them so dark I feel like I’m going blind just trying to watch it.
Was it this dark in theaters or is this a D+ issue?
Was it this dark in theaters or is this a D+ issue?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Doesn't look too dark to me, looks the same as it did when I watched it in the theaters.
Possible your TV settings needs to be adjusted?
Vegas Disney Fan
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I actually paused it and started another movie on D+ just to make sure my screen wasn’t dying, everything else looks normal, I think they just filmed it dark.
Did a Google search and apparently I’m not the only one…
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...-complaint-is-already-dominating-its-release/
_caleb
Well-Known Member
Are you running an IMAX dual laser 1.43 full frame setup for your home theater? If not, that may be the problem.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I guess I just set my TV different than everyone else, I tend to take a week to adjust all settings until perfect on all different types of content for my viewing taste every new TV I get, or maybe my eyes are used to darker cinematography because I've never had issues with being able to see in darker scenes.
Just emailed D+ a complaint about it.
Yes, too dark. Any fiddling with TV controls to make indoor/underwater scenes visible then washes out the daytime scenes with color banding.
Yes, too dark. Any fiddling with TV controls to make indoor/underwater scenes visible then washes out the daytime scenes with color banding.
Vegas Disney Fan
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It does, it’s a fairly new (about 1 year old) Samsung 65” 4K, everything has looked amazing on it except for this and DC movies, both for similar darkness reasons. The odd thing is I rewatched all the Aliens movies recently and they looked crisp and amazing despite being very dark movies, this one lacks contrast or something, I’ve tried maxing brightness, contrast, turning all the picture enhancers on/off, tried all the different picture modes… no matter what I do it’s just a dark movie that’s hard to see.
I’m hoping maybe at night it’ll be easier to see without all the ambient light in the room.
Jedijax719
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Looks absolutely fantastic and stunning on my end!
Wished to see more extras and deleted scenes though.
Wished to see more extras and deleted scenes though.
Phroobar
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I watched it again last night. This is a long movie and feels like another introduction/setup movie just like most Disney+ Marvel series are. It starts out well with Shuri trying to make a new herb to save her brother. It was a nice tribute to the fallen hero. Then things start to feel like multiple movies at once. The Queen goes back on her word to share their tech with the rest of the world. I'm not sure why she would do that since that makes Wakanda a rogue nation that everyone else is going to target. An example of "it is ok if Wakanda does it". How hard can it be take down a nation that uses spears, armored rhinos and helicopters. The Na'vi in Avatar did it pretty easily and the Marvel version of them do it here.
Vibranium is found in the ocean. The water based Na'vi defend it. Namor decides he needs to grab the scientist (Magoffin) that made a vibranium detector and Shuri to make the Queen join in a quest to wipe out the land dwellers since his people were killed by conquistadors before becoming blue Na'vi. This escalates quickly with the invasion of Wakanda and the Queen is killed. I know Angela Bassett is nominated for an Oscar for this and she is the most buff 65 year old I've seen in a long time but this is far from her best roll. She spends it being angry and wanting Shuri back. If she does win, I would consider it more of a lifetime achievement since she has been many better movies. She did what she could with the bad writing.
Shuri makes a new herb and makes herself the Black Panther even though she has no fighting experience and could be blown away by a strong wind. Why not just give the herb to her royal guard instead of making blue beetle costumes? He scientist buddy makes an Iron Man outfit because any smart teenager can make one as long as Marvel need a replacement for Tony. Otherwise she is completely useless to the plot. Martin Freeman is in there spilling state secrets to Wakanda while Baroness Hydra watches on. Shuri figures out if he makes Namor hot, he will lose his super powers. Is this movie trolling us now? Wakanda has a submarine like most land locked countries have and goes out to battle Namor. Shuri takes a spear to gut but somehow survives and shrugs it off because if you can survive a lightsaber to the gut, a spear is no different. Namor surrenders even though he was a few feet away from water and his army had won the boat battle.
Everyone is happy and we have a really well written and acted ending tributing T'Challa. The hyped Boseman tribute song plays over the credits. Two more core male Avengers have be replaced with women. <sigh> This movie should have been better. You see elements from older drafts when Boseman was still with us. They course corrected in a panic and made a mess. Can we now move on to phase five and forget all of this?
Vibranium is found in the ocean. The water based Na'vi defend it. Namor decides he needs to grab the scientist (Magoffin) that made a vibranium detector and Shuri to make the Queen join in a quest to wipe out the land dwellers since his people were killed by conquistadors before becoming blue Na'vi. This escalates quickly with the invasion of Wakanda and the Queen is killed. I know Angela Bassett is nominated for an Oscar for this and she is the most buff 65 year old I've seen in a long time but this is far from her best roll. She spends it being angry and wanting Shuri back. If she does win, I would consider it more of a lifetime achievement since she has been many better movies. She did what she could with the bad writing.
Shuri makes a new herb and makes herself the Black Panther even though she has no fighting experience and could be blown away by a strong wind. Why not just give the herb to her royal guard instead of making blue beetle costumes? He scientist buddy makes an Iron Man outfit because any smart teenager can make one as long as Marvel need a replacement for Tony. Otherwise she is completely useless to the plot. Martin Freeman is in there spilling state secrets to Wakanda while Baroness Hydra watches on. Shuri figures out if he makes Namor hot, he will lose his super powers. Is this movie trolling us now? Wakanda has a submarine like most land locked countries have and goes out to battle Namor. Shuri takes a spear to gut but somehow survives and shrugs it off because if you can survive a lightsaber to the gut, a spear is no different. Namor surrenders even though he was a few feet away from water and his army had won the boat battle.
Everyone is happy and we have a really well written and acted ending tributing T'Challa. The hyped Boseman tribute song plays over the credits. Two more core male Avengers have be replaced with women. <sigh> This movie should have been better. You see elements from older drafts when Boseman was still with us. They course corrected in a panic and made a mess. Can we now move on to phase five and forget all of this?
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
Despite agreeing with basically everything you said, and the darkness issues I already talked about, I still enjoyed this movie far more than the first.
Sure there’s some plot issues, they turned more male superheroes into female superheroes, the water people were Navi rip offs, a couple of the music choices were PotC rip offs… despite all that’s it was still a very entertaining movie.
It won’t make my top 5 Marvel list but it’s definitely in the top half.
Sure there’s some plot issues, they turned more male superheroes into female superheroes, the water people were Navi rip offs, a couple of the music choices were PotC rip offs… despite all that’s it was still a very entertaining movie.
It won’t make my top 5 Marvel list but it’s definitely in the top half.
Phroobar
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Definitely not top 5 but more lower 7 for me. It definitely didn't deserve the hype.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
Why am I not surprised this would be your opinion about Wakanda Forever?
Jedijax719
Well-Known Member
It's top 5 for me:
1. Black Panther
2. Iron Man 1
3. Endgame
4. Infinity War
5. Wakanda Forever
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Avengers
8. Shang Chi
9. No Way Home
10. Civil War
1. Black Panther
2. Iron Man 1
3. Endgame
4. Infinity War
5. Wakanda Forever
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Avengers
8. Shang Chi
9. No Way Home
10. Civil War