Avatar Land vs. Star War Land

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I wouldn't want to see anything from the prequels. I'd want this:

 

[TinkerBelle8878]

Have you taught 1-8 graders?
I have, and I was shocked at how many of them were somewhat familiar with the prequel films (The last one was released while I was teaching) but many, if not most of these kids have never seen the original movies, and weren't particularly interested in doing so.

I would imagine that most people posting in this thread are in their 20s and 30s and have probably seen all the Star Wars movies, but what we have to keep in mind is that unless they were brought up in a family of sci-fi nerds, most actual children today don't have a lot of familiarity with the old Star Wars movies, and if they have, it's probably because of "Family Guy."

Actually I sub at a preschool and there's a 'no superhero' rule. But these kiddos are smart, they play Star Wars on the playground. Luke, Leia, and Darth Vader. That's 3 and 4 year olds.

 

[Midlife Mouse]

Sorry Star Trek is 100 times better than Star Wars, Star Wars is the first movies to be made to sell toys, simple stories for simple people with cute easily sell able creatures. I don't want to see that Lucas garabage at all. I would rather see Disney give Avatar a good try, Star Wars would just end up being a massive building filled with crap to buy.

You know Star Wars was little better than an indie film when Lucas made it, right? The studio didn't really believe in it - so much so that they let Lucas retain ownership of the characters and merchandising rights. The cast and crew had a hard time taking it seriously, and many of Lucas' friends thought it would be a complete flop. No one saw a blockbuster in the making.

So, to say that it was "made to sell toys" is far from accurate. Toys were hardly available when it came out. That Christmas, kids got certificates promising action figures sometime the next year...because there were no action figures on the market, yet...seven months after the film was released.

http://theswca.com/images-toys/figuretoys/ebkit.html

 

[Turtle]

I wouldn't want to see anything from the prequels.

not even coruscant or tatooine? i hate the prequels but i think those are the only two good areas of the new ones

 

[eddiemcgarrigle]

Star Wars is the bigger franchise, it makes sense to me. There are also plenty of different planet environments featured in the the movies (4-6, ignore 1-3) to allow quite a few different areas for the park such as Tattoine, Hoth and Endor.

 

[FrankLapidus]

I would imagine that most people posting in this thread are in their 20s and 30s and have probably seen all the Star Wars movies, but what we have to keep in mind is that unless they were brought up in a family of sci-fi nerds, most actual children today don't have a lot of familiarity with the old Star Wars movies, and if they have, it's probably because of "Family Guy."

Most kids today aren't familiar with the original Star Wars trilogy? I find that extremely hard to believe. Star Wars transcends "sci-fi" nerds, it's been a huge part of popular culture for over thirty years and, like the Disney classics, the original films are passed from one generation to the next. If you put a photograph of Han Solo or Luke Skywalker or Princess Leia in front of most children I would be willing to bet most of them could tell you who those characters were and what film series they were from. If you asked them about the Death Star, Milennium Falcon or X-Wing I bet most of them could tell you what those things were. And any kids who haven't seen the original trilogy will be introduced to them by family and friends when the hype over the upcoming films really goes crazy. Questioning the popularity of the original Star Wars trilogy is crazy.

 

[Bairstow]

Most kids today aren't familiar with the original Star Wars trilogy? I find that extremely hard to believe. \

I was surprised too, but when I started teaching that was exactly what I found.

 

[Midlife Mouse]

I know the story and yes the first one was pretty much an Indie film. The second one was the real sell out with the ewoks and all that.

Any how people got excited about Disney buying Lucas films but I seriously doubt you will see anything in the parks until Disney makes some more SW movies which may or may not do well. In general Disney hasn't been doing that great with movies lately. I'm sure I'll get flamed for that comment. LOL.

Actually, the ewoks didn't show up until the third one - weird film, with the contrast between the ewok subplot and the Shakespearean drama between Luke & Vader.

I agree about Disney movies of late. Animation is on an upswing, but the live action offerings have been faltering.

All that being said, if the Tolkien-Universal rumors prove true, WDW would be wise to move sooner rather than later on a Star Wars land. Avatar is not yet a full-fledged franchise. SW is, and Disney owns it. It's a no-brainer.

 

[twebber55]

Star Wars over Avatar. No-brainer.
But, certainly not at AK.

which is kinda my point....this should be more about cars land vs star wars

i find it silly to think adults would be showing off movie line pictures to prove a point

i believe all three IP's would make a great theme park environment.. what fits better into these particular theme parks.. i would prefer LOTR over all of these but prefer Avatar for DAK because its a better fit

i mean you have a a month dedicated to star wars at DHS so its not like nothing is happening at DHS for SW

 

[lunchbox1175]

Actually, the ewoks didn't show up until the third one - weird film, with the contrast between the ewok subplot and the Shakespearean drama between Luke & Vader.

I agree about Disney movies of late. Animation is on an upswing, but the live action offerings have been faltering.

All that being said, if the Tolkien-Universal rumors prove true, WDW would be wise to move sooner rather than later on a Star Wars land. Avatar is not yet a full-fledged franchise. SW is, and Disney owns it. It's a no-brainer.

I love hearing the Disney hasn't produced any good movies lately comment, there was the one movie they had called The Avengers, you know the one that is already #3 on the all time grossing list and has been out for less than a year. Pretty sure Brave did well finishing 11th overall for last year and grossing over 500mil. Everyone needs to stop basing the success/failure on how big of a flop John Carter was. Even thought it was pretty colosal.

 

[Midlife Mouse]

I love hearing the Disney hasn't produced any good movies lately comment, there was the one movie they had called The Avengers, you know the one that is already #3 on the all time grossing list and has been out for less than a year. Pretty sure Brave did well finishing 11th overall for last year and grossing over 500mil. Everyone needs to stop basing the success/failure on how big of a flop John Carter was. Even thought it was pretty colosal.

Fair enough. I always forget about Avengers! (Stupid Paramount logo...) I liked JC okay, although my expectations were admittedly low once I saw it. And I'm not so much talking about box office, but the films themselves. Brave was beautiful, but a bit of a mess, story-wise. Pirates 4 was a disappointment. Tron: Legacy was, again, nice to look at, but had almost no script. Of course, Wreck-It Ralph and The Avengers probably make up for all the recent misses.

And I'm choosing to be optimistic about Lone Ranger.

 

[Britt]

I love the prequels as well as the 70's movies...come on...how you can you hate something with Hayden Christiansen or Natalie Portman

And my 3 boys (7, 6, and 2) have seen ALL of the Star Wars movies (and so have most of their friends, come to think of it), they would love a place themed like either set of movies!

 

[disney fan 13]

Star wars land.

 

[Britt]

And I'm choosing to be optimistic about Lone Ranger.

I cant wait for this movie...so hoping it's good!

 

[Midlife Mouse]

I love hearing the Disney hasn't produced any good movies lately comment, there was the one movie they had called The Avengers, you know the one that is already #3 on the all time grossing list and has been out for less than a year. Pretty sure Brave did well finishing 11th overall for last year and grossing over 500mil. Everyone needs to stop basing the success/failure on how big of a flop John Carter was. Even thought it was pretty colosal.

Also, the original comment to which I was replying was about the need for a Star Wars land, because Disney hasn't had much luck launching franchises of late. Unfortunately, The Avengers is still out-of-bounds for WDW.

 

[lunchbox1175]

Also, the original comment to which I was replying was about the need for a Star Wars land, because Disney hasn't had much luck launching franchises of late. Unfortunately, The Avengers is still out-of-bounds for WDW.

I agree that Star Wars or Even Lucas Land need to be made, I would rather see HS turned in to an animation only or Pixar Park, and then build a new Hollywood Studios where it is based solely on live action movies, there could be a section devoted to the Golden Age of movies, a section devoted to Stunts and Special Effects, A Lucasfilms land with Star wars and Indiana Jones rides and themes, and if they were ever able to get it negotiated, a MarvelLand. Oh, how i would love that park!

 

[Midlife Mouse]

I agree that Star Wars or Even Lucas Land need to be made, I would rather see HS turned in to an animation only or Pixar Park, and then build a new Hollywood Studios where it is based solely on live action movies...

It does seem that the big battle now is animation versus live action at DHS. It's a shame the working studio aspect of it died off so quickly. And what's left is watered down or doesn't really make sense any more.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

It does seem that the big battle now is animation versus live action at DHS. It's a shame the working studio aspect of it died off so quickly. And what's left is watered down or doesn't really make sense any more.

There is no more "theme" to DHS.
Sunset Blvd really is the only only well-themed aspect of the entire park IMO.
Hollywood Blvd was...but the hat destroyed that. (And I actually like the look of the hat...just not in that location!)

 

[Midlife Mouse]

There is no more "theme" to DHS.
Sunset Blvd really is the only only well-themed aspect of the entire park IMO.
Hollywood Blvd was...but the hat destroyed that. (And I actually like the look of the hat...just not in that location!)

Just build @lunchbox1175's idea for an modern animation-themed park and move the hat there! Two birds, one stone.

My hope is that some of the management change we're hearing about at TDO will result in a complete re-tooling of DHS along the lines of what happened at DCA. Ditch the hat and work outward from there.

 

[HatboxGhost]

I am not a fan of Avatar. Star Wars really is a no brainer and there are endless possibilities with restaurants, rides, shows, character meets, etc.