American Idol details plus concept art

[EpcotServo]

Now, now, we have never met, don't start making rash decisions based on incomplete information.

I only speak for myself, and never in absolutes. I don't pretend to have the voice of the people behind me. I am only a single person...

So Enderikari, (to try and stop teh fighting) What do you think of the idea?

 

[WDWFigment]

Now, now, we have never met, don't start making rash decisions based on incomplete information.

I only speak for myself, and never in absolutes. I don't pretend to have the voice of the people behind me. I am only a single person...

The title of the link in your signature contains an absolute (worst). I won't even get into the content or the typical tone of your posts.

 

[Enderikari]

I can't sing, don't even pretend to, but I think that the theater will be filled up for just about every show. So who am I to say it's a terrible idea? (anything I say would be couched in the fact that I hate Hate HATE reality television)

My interest is piqued by the fact that they have an expected opening date of Fall of this year, and I don't think they can possibly make that opening date, good luck to BVCC

 

[Enderikari]

The title of the link in your signature contains an absolute (worst). I won't even get into the content or the typical tone of your posts.

Wow, I must have really struck a nerve, huh?

:: poke poke:: :: poke poke::

 

[EpcotServo]

I can't sing, don't even pretend to, but I think that the theater will be filled up for just about every show. So who am I to say it's a terrible idea? (anything I say would be couched in the fact that I hate Hate HATE reality television)

My interest is piqued by the fact that they have an expected opening date of Fall of this year, and I don't think they can possibly make that opening date, good luck to BVCC

:lol:

They'll get it done. When I got a peek inside awhile ago I noticed that everything was all tore up pretty good...I don't think Entertainment will be able to hammer out the deatils of working the show for quite some time though.


I wonder if Regis will be in the first Pre-Show?

"POINTS and PRIZES?!?! WHAT is THIS, BOWLING night at the BOWLORAMA!?!?!?"

 

[jt04]

The concern isn't for someone losing. Millionaire had a similar win/lose concept, and that was a lot of fun.

The concern lies in how the individuals participating will take critiques of their talent. Hopefully it will be fine, but unlike Millionaire, this show deals with people's actual abilities and talent, which tends to be much more personal than their knowledge of trivial facts.

I don't doubt Disney has intentions to tone down the critiques as seen in the original show. Hopefully this will be part of the audition process, making sure..how do I say this politely...no "crazies" get on stage in front of an audience of families.

I am also thinking that the auditions will seek to actually weed out those that have no singing voice at all. This would be ironic, concidering it is a large part of the show to allow bad talent through to the judging round. We all have seen American Idol, and we all know that half of the entertainment comes from watching bad performers. Case in point: William Hung. And most of the park guests will have this in mind as well when they see that attraction listed on their guide maps. Disney marketing has to know that people are going to go to this attraction thinking they are going to see some laughable auditions, whether or not it is a part of the program. So if they eliminate the bad singers, then that would be great and less humiliating for everyone. But I have to imagine that many people are going to enter that theater hoping to see the next Willam Hung.

I can envision that the entertainment for this show will derive from the audience "cheering on" the contestants, and from listening to some good voices. A lot of people go through those park gates in a day, there should be a good chance that a handfull of them have some talent. And just as in the millionaire show, it is a lot of fun to see some people actually win.

I'm trying for a more in depth discussion here than just "This sucks" and "aw, what do you know"!

Some people audition knowing they are bad but just want to be on TV. They are easy to spot and I am sure they will let a "few slip through" for comedic effect. Who knows they may even have a few "insiders" (actors) who are actually a part of the show but are sprinkled in for laughs.

 

[WDWFigment]

Wow, I must have really struck a nerve, huh?

:: poke poke:: :: poke poke::

I just thought, of all the people and opinions with which to match wits, you chose a relatively 'weak' one (no offense to the other poster). It's obvious you're pretty intelligent, why not at least take on someone who posted something more informed (I'm not suggesting that someone is me, I haven't posted anything on the AI attraction; I mean initially)...

Then it just became one of those things where I enjoy debating, so I kept going. No offense meant! (Although I hate when people say that when they've said something inherently offensive...as if it just negates all their other comments out--but I hope you understand this was more 'sport debate' than a personal attack...).

 

[EpcotServo]

Chilling sign of things to come?

Back when the Paramount Parks had movie and television themes, before being bought by Cedar un-Fair, they had an interactive show called Star Search Live! This show was themed after the television show of the same name and was extremely unpopular.

I was at PKI on it's peak, shoulder-to-shoulder midways, and it barely drew a crowd. They even had trouble just getting the minimum amount of people to get up in front of people to sing (and it wasn't even restricted to age so it was mainly kids being pulled it). I'm telling you, people don't want to waste time embarrassing themselves in front of an audience when they paid good money to be there.

People don't want to waste there time watching other people embarrass themselves when they paid money to see talent (instead you get the people in line preforming for you instead of someone Disney paid). I see this folding in the not-to-distant future but for now, it's nice it's just not being used for storage (like another stage we know).

Maybe we'll get something timeless, instead of the pop culture crap they keep filling the parks with lately, next time!

Skippy

The best I could find on it:
http://www.kiextreme.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=142

 

[jt04]

I can't sing, don't even pretend to, but I think that the theater will be filled up for just about every show. So who am I to say it's a terrible idea? (anything I say would be couched in the fact that I hate Hate HATE reality television)

My interest is piqued by the fact that they have an expected opening date of Fall of this year, and I don't think they can possibly make that opening date, good luck to BVCC

It was already a theater and they have already been working on it so I was suprised it won't be open by summer.

 

[InsideOtherPark]

Yeah everyone is right.

An empty place in a nice location is much better.

They should have just painted the whole thing black so people would not even think a building is actually there. :brick:

I sure hope everyone has some place to park all their high horses when the show opens to see how it really turns out.

 

[JennyTablina]

This debate seems trvial and rather stupid

The whole idea of the attraction is so someone can do a faux audition, which (if they are lucky enough) gets them a part in a live show at MGM for people to see. The "contestant" gets 15 minutes of fame to strut their stuff and live out a dream of sorts. Even if it's only a little while

Considering this is an attraction in a place where "Magic lives" and "Dreams come true" is this really so out of place? In a place where in the space of a day you can do a world tour, take a trip into space, get shrunk, made a honuary bug and even be a Pirate or a princess for a day. I hardly think it's far fetched to make someone a singing star for a day

Plus I dont see the damaging effects. Nobodys going to do AI expecting to win or be the best singer ever. Like the rest of Disney it's all about just having fun. The guest that would expect it is the same type of guest that goes there expecting one of a million dreams or other unrealistic expectations of Disney. Nobody expected to win Millionare play it did they?

I mean honestly, if it's not your cup of tea just avoid it. It's not like its reaplcing any beloved attraction :shrug:. Plus MGM is full of blatant product placement. American Idol isnt any different in that respect. It's just an updated version of the audience participation shows like Sounds Dangerous and Superstar Television, You could even call it a spiritual successor to Superstar. As it's the same idea of giving a guest a few moments of fame.

 

[EpcotServo]

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[Figment571]

This debate seems trvial and rather stupid

The whole idea of the attraction is so someone can do a faux audition, which (if they are lucky enough) gets them a part in a live show at MGM for people to see. The "contestant" gets 15 minutes of fame to strut their stuff and live out a dream of sorts. Even if it's only a little while

Considering this is an attraction in a place where "Magic lives" and "Dreams come true" is this really so out of place? In a place where in the space of a day you can do a world tour, take a trip into space, get shrunk, made a honuary bug and even be a Pirate or a princess for a day. I hardly think it's far fetched to make someone a singing star for a day

Plus I dont see the damaging effects. Nobodys going to do AI expecting to win or be the best singer ever. Like the rest of Disney it's all about just having fun. The guest that would expect it is the same type of guest that goes there expecting one of a million dreams or other unrealistic expectations of Disney. Nobody expected to win Millionare play it did they?

I mean honestly, if it's not your cup of tea just avoid it. It's not like its reaplcing any beloved attraction :shrug:. Plus MGM is full of blatant product placement. American Idol isnt any different in that respect. It's just an updated version of the audience participation shows like Sounds Dangerous and Superstar Television, You could even call it a spiritual successor to Superstar. As it's the same idea of giving a guest a few moments of fame.

You underestimate the teenage girl's ego.

I don't know really about this whole thing. I want to wait and see.

 

[JLW11Hi]

Some people audition knowing they are bad but just want to be on TV. They are easy to spot and I am sure they will let a "few slip through" for comedic effect. Who knows they may even have a few "insiders" (actors) who are actually a part of the show but are sprinkled in for laughs.

Ooh! Good thought! That would be pretty entertaining if they had a performer, or some of the streetmosphere in on the act so that they could retain the "bad act" humor without hurting anyones feelings.

I've seen the streetmosphere do similar American Idol acts before, with plenty of humorous shreeks and warbaling.

And, of course, they'd get the occasional 20 something dude who just wants to ham it up. That could be pretty funny as well.

 

[jt04]

Ooh! Good thought! That would be pretty entertaining if they had a performer, or some of the streetmosphere in on the act so that they could retain the "bad act" humor without hurting anyones feelings.

I've seen the streetmosphere do similar American Idol acts before, with plenty of humorous shreeks and warbaling.

And, of course, they'd get the occasional 20 something dude who just wants to ham it up. That could be pretty funny as well.

Plus the "plants" can make the real singers look better by lowering audience expectations. I really think the "Idol" idea will work. Especially if the judges are animated "living initiative" cartoons. They could create many different animated personas that rotated and make every show completely different.

 

[Computer Magic]

I love this idea. :sohappy: The fact that every show will be different will bring repeat visitors. I really missed Superstar TV or whatever it was called and this is a great replacment. Any new attraction is better then a vacant building. This will give new life to DHS.

Is it too early for a soft opening....hoping for Sept. :sohappy:


I do wonder how hard it will be to get a seat for the final show of the day. Cuz that is the one most will want to see, the best of the day.

 

[DisneyAnole]

I just thought, of all the people and opinions with which to match wits, you chose a relatively 'weak' one (no offense to the other poster). It's obvious you're pretty intelligent, why not at least take on someone who posted something more informed (I'm not suggesting that someone is me, I haven't posted anything on the AI attraction; I mean initially)...

Then it just became one of those things where I enjoy debating, so I kept going. No offense meant! (Although I hate when people say that when they've said something inherently offensive...as if it just negates all their other comments out--but I hope you understand this was more 'sport debate' than a personal attack...).

I think you're overestimating Ender's intelligence and underestimating his desire to be a dissenting voice for the sake of stirring up trouble.

And since I'm the person whose post started this entire diatribe and since I'm actually articulate when I choose to be and also since I don't need WDWmagic's resident egghead Mr. Figment fighting my battles for me, let me take this opportunity to chime in.

Ender, using a plural pronoun is nothing more than a rhetorical device. So calm down, put your Book of Quotations away, and give it a rest.

I notice when asked your opinion of Disney Idol, you dodged the question. You merely said it would be popular (which is an ad populum logical fallacy since we have such a well-educated group of rhetoricians here today) and that your personal bias wouldn't allow you to judge this addition to the park. What difference does that make? You were asked your opinion and were under no obligation to answer objectively, since opinions are by definition subjective.

American Idol's popularity is not the subject under debate. Its appropriateness in a Disney park is. Hardcore is also popular. Shall that be the next addition to MGMDHS?

Before you can respond (I see you getting red in the face over there), I'll admit, that's a slippery slope argument. But the point still remains, what positive qualities does Idol add to the park's atmosphere? The building looks like it's straight out of CityWalk, certainly not the stuff of a carefully designed theme park.

Of course we should all just wait until the attraction opens. Then we can figure out the best way to vandalize this dump. Right, Ender? You're a fan of the Vandals, aren't ya? Just joking, darling.

 

[wdwmomof3]

Now this is crazy, but I will check it out. At least there is something else new coming to look forward to. It should be funny too, but you will NEVER see me up there.

 

[kreiderr]

I've read through 10 pages of posts and apparently I am a "Disney Hater" due to my repulsion at the thought of this attraction. Here's the deal. I hate the tv show. I hate the idea that some nobody can be plucked off the street and transformed into a pop culture icon that sells millions of records just due to media coverage. rather than true talent. I will not go to this attraction because I refuse to support the notion that our culture can be manipulated by record producers in order to turn a corporate profit.
The fact of the matter is that I Love Disney and what it stands for. It kills me when Disney takes the easy way out and just copies something already in existence. I hated the "Millionaire" attraction for the same reason. There was no creativity. Disney's parks have been built on pushing the creative envelope and this, in my opinion falls far short. Which of the following attractions doesn't belong?: Expedition Everest, Tower of Terror, Soarin' Splash Mountain, Dinosaur, Rock-n-Roller Coaster, Pirates of the Carribean, American Idol. It hurts me to see any of these classic attractions in the same sentence. Remember, they call themselves Imagineers. I just don't see it with this concept.

 

[echoreyn]

You underestimate the teenage girl's ego.

I don't know really about this whole thing. I want to wait and see.

Yeah, I agree with this. I once saw a girl cry for three hours straight at a Harry Potter book release party because she lost the costume contest. She looked to be about 15 or 16 years old.

I know that most people will probably just go in thinking it will be a fun experience, but some people (teenagers and some adults included) will take it too seriously and very personally if they are not selected to sing because their voices aren't as good as they think they are.

Really, this is all that worries me about this attraction. Otherwise, I could care less. I'm sure Disney has thought of this though, and they have some tricks up their sleeves. *crosses fingers*