Am I the only person who is not a fan of Pool Hopping???

[mwitkus]

Let me first start by saying that I do not mean any disrespect to anyone with this thread, but I have to say that the idea of pool hopping really bothers me!!

The last thing I want when I go to my resort pool is to find the place crowded both on land and in the water.. I hate getting there and finding no chairs available or so many people in the water that you can't move without swimming into someone or getting kicked by someone as they are swimming..

Granted I always assumed this was a result of a crowded resort, but now I must ask, is this a result of pool hoppers? And if it is, I have to say I would like to see more control of the pool areas to keep them limited to those guests who are paying for the priveledge of swimming there...

Am I the only person who feels this way???

:veryconfu :veryconfu

 

[Tramp]

Originally posted by cymbaldiva


Actually, I'm iffy on this one...I don't even swim, so pool-hopping isn't an issue (I don't go out in a swimsuit - no one deserves to see these thighs! :lol: ), but as far as the landscaping and decor and such, I resort hop all the time...I love to wander about in the resorts that I can't afford!

So if I'm just soaking in the atmosphere at the Deluxe resorts, does that make me a thief? This is a real question - I'm not being a smarta**...I promise!

... Kandi..
...that's not doing anything wrong...there are common areas to any hotel in which guests and non-guests are allowed to roam freely, including the restaurants, the lobby, gift shops and even the grounds...

...the apparent delicate question centers around amenities that have been specifically designed for the comfort of the hotel guests and add a level of luxury to the guest's stay...including the pool, the resort spas, bicycles, beach areas, tennis courts, etc etc...

...some of the deluxe hotels allow guests and non-guests to use their watercraft for a fee...so snobs and snob wannabes can have fun doing the same thing...:lol:

 

[Lance]

This is why the subject of "pool hopping" is so wonderful, it's very entertaining to see people being so oppossed to say stuff like, it's evil, morally wrong, illegal....

It's all rather silly, in my opinion.......I guess you guys aren't like me, I'd explain my situation, but it would be a lot of typing....

 

[cymbaldiva]

...the apparent delicate question centers around amenities that have been specifically designed for the comfort of the hotel guests and add a level of luxury to the guest's stay...including the pool, the resort spas, bicycles, beach areas, tennis courts, etc etc...

Oh Lord! They don't have to worry about me on any of that! I'm too busy at the parks to worry about tennis and spas and such! :lol:

Luv ya Tramp!

 

[Tramp]

Originally posted by cymbaldiva
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Oh Lord! They don't have to worry about me on any of that! I'm too busy at the parks to worry about tennis and spas and such! :lol:

Luv ya Tramp!

...me too...other than an afternoon dip in the pool, I hardly use any resort amenities...

...how bout the exercise rooms?..........I don't think so...walking 5-8 miles a day in the park is a good workout for me...

...and I see people jogging around the hotel early in the morning when I go out to get my coffee and danish....holy geeeeeze, are they nuts?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: all that energy!:hammer:

 

[Tramp]

Originally posted by cymbaldiva


I don't even swim, so pool-hopping isn't an issue (I don't go out in a swimsuit - no one deserves to see these thighs! :lol: ),

How did I let this slip by....?

C'mon Kandi, post a picture...we ALL want to see those thighs...:lol:

(at least those of us who need a good laugh) :animwink:


1600 posts.....what a BSer this guy is.

(off to bed)

 

[cymbaldiva]

Originally posted by Tramp



How did I let this slip by....?

C'mon Kandi, post a picture...we ALL want to see those thighs...:lol:

(at least those of us who need a good laugh) :animwink:


1600 posts.....what a BSer this guy is.

Very funny...NOT!!! :lol:

 

[Talsonic]

I am now at peace!

Originally posted by The Mom


NO ONE has implied that paying more for your accomodations makes you BETTER than someone else...just MORE entitled to use the facilities than someone NOT staying at that hotel. That does not mean that someone PAYING for a restaurant meal should not be allowed to eat there, but the FREE amenities (which usually..at least at WDW...does not include meals, shop purchases, spas, etc) should be reserved for the guests. (or non-guests should PAY to use them)

Gosh! My daughter and son-in-law are staying at the Poly during the same time that my wife, younger daughter and I are staying at All Star Movies. It's going to be difficult for me to explain to them why we can't swim in the Poly pool. Thanks for this thread! I'll just print it out and I am sure everyone will understand. You guys are the best! Thanks for the help.

 

[RogueHabit]

Originally posted by YankeeFan
Personally, the only pet peeve I have where pool-hopping is concerned is with people who whine and complain about it. I've pool-hopped in the past and will continue to do so during my stays if I so desire. Disney has 3 water parks, and numerous resorts with great swimming facilities. People complaining about those who pool-hop need to just stop and find something worthwhile to complain about. Pool-hopping hurts nobody, and besides, Disney has several water parks and numerous other resorts with fine swimming facilities for people to use if they see fit. Whenever I pool-hopped in the past, I've been discreet enough to not bring 10 other people with me so that we could steal all the chairs or cause a ruckus. The groups that DO make the ruckus are the ones that deserve to be complained about.

Your entire post uses a reverse arguement.

Exactly, there are 'Disney has several water parks and numerous other resorts with fine swimming facilities for people to use if they see fit. '

So, all those who are off site can go to the water parks, and pay. If you're at a resort then you have pools to use. That is how it should be.

Just because you STEAL on your own doesn't stop it being theft.

Would you pull up a chair at a restaurant and start eating with a family on their bill?
Would you hop into a taxi with someone else and then let them pay?
Would you walk into someone elses room and use the bed, just because it wasn' occupied.

It's the same thing! People have paid for a service and you feel that it is OK for you to steal that service, just because you feel that you have a right to something for nothing.

If I stay at a resort then I don't feel that YOU have the right to make me travel to another resort to use the pool just because you and others like you have trespassed onto the resort to use the pool.

Part of my hotel payment has gone towards cleaning the towels that are on poolside, providing the staff to man the pool and keeping the pool area clean, so what gives YOU to right to steal from ME? Which, if you break it down, is exactly what you are doing?

Theives find it easy to justify what they do, because they so often ignore the pertinent facts of the situation.

 

[garyhoov]

Look at it this way. Some people grab extra ketchup packets when they're in McDonalds to take home and use later. It's wrong, but it's not a capital offense. Nobody is going to make a big deal about people who do it, but if someone gets on a soap-box and claims it's their "right" to do it, they're saying something that is going to get a response from people.

 

[The Mom]

BTW...visiting a PAYING GUEST at a hotel, and using the pool WITH THEM is not exactly the same as just strolling up and jumping in!

To use the wedding analogy, that would be the same as attending one wedding, walking by another reception and running into a friend/relative who is an invited guest, who then asks you to step in and have a dance with him/her. If he/she introduces you to anyone who asks (or even if they don't), including the host and hostess, they wouldn't be concerned. If you were a total stranger who just wandered in, you would probably be asked to leave. As long as you didn't sit down at a table and expect dinner (which would be the same as staying with your children and sleeping in their room as an unregistered guest) I don't see any problem. Now, if you all decided the Polynesian pool was too boring,and went over to Stormalong Bay to swim there, I would consider it wrong! (or tacky, or rude) But that's my OPINION....I've given more than adequate reasons, as have others, to explain why I feel this way.



Again, pool hopping isn't exactly 1st degree murder. If I was at the Boardwalk, or any resort, lounging by the almost empty quiet pool, I wouldn't care if someone (or even a dozen someones!) pool hopped there...nor do I think anyone else would!

 

[Erika]

Originally posted by garyhoov
Look at it this way. Some people grab extra ketchup packets when they're in McDonalds to take home and use later. It's wrong, but it's not a capital offense. Nobody is going to make a big deal about people who do it, but if someone gets on a soap-box and claims it's their "right" to do it, they're saying something that is going to get a response from people.

VERY good point!

 

[The Mom]

Originally posted by Lance
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It's all rather silly, in my opinion.......I guess you guys aren't like me, I'd explain my situation, but it would be a lot of typing.... [/B]

And a lot of reading...but I don't mind. I would really like to see your rationale...other than I enjoy it, don't see anything wrong with it, and don't understand why it bothers others. Several posters have given very detailed explanations as to why they feel it's not appropriate. Some posters have belittled their concerns...what's a few more dirty towels, the pool is crowded anyway...what's a few more bodies, etc...but haven't articulated exactly WHY hoppers have a right to use any pool they choose. (other than those already mentioned in this post)

Please feel free to PM me if you prefer not to post it all, but I do think others would be interested.

 

[mwitkus]

wow... look what i started!

i'm glad to see that i am not the only one who is bothered by the concept of pool hopping... by the same token, i am sorry that there are so many people who consider it to be their right.. don't get me wrong, i knew a lot of people did it and didn't care about the fact that it was wrong, but i thought they all knew it was wrong and just thought it was worth doing.. but now, knowing that people actually consider it to be their right... that just annoys me further...

i can almost understand that people staying on property would consider it their right to go and enjoy the amenities at all other resorts on property, but if it were their right, wouldn't disney still be condoning it? if disney frowns upon it, and doesn't want you doing it, why would you think it is your right to do it? that's what i don't get...

again, i don't intend to offend anyone but i really don't understand what makes you feel that you are above following the rules and policies that are established by disney...

 

[Eeyore]

Originally posted by mwitkus

i can almost understand that people staying on property would consider it their right to go and enjoy the amenities at all other resorts on property, but if it were their right, wouldn't disney still be condoning it? if disney frowns upon it, and doesn't want you doing it, why would you think it is your right to do it? that's what i don't get...

I agree. I always stay on Disney property and could most likely pool hop and get away with it without any problems, but Disney asks that you don't poolhop, so I don't. So I'm with you mwitkus, I don't understand.

 

[mwitkus]

Originally posted by Eeyore


I agree. I always stay on Disney property and could most likely pool hop and get away with it without any problems, but Disney asks that you don't poolhop, so I don't. So I'm with you mwitkus, I don't understand.

thanks eeyore... like i said before, it's good to know i'm not alone on this one...

 

[The Mom]

But if I was staying at the Polynesian, and you (Eeyore) were staying at AS, and I invited you to come spend the day with me, I don't think either of us would consider it wrong to spend some time in the pool!


And you could probably bring that brother of yours along, and perhaps even your parents (but that would be pushing it). I would consider any more people to be an abuse of my privilages, and an inconvenience to others!

 

[Eeyore]

Originally posted by The Mom
But if I was staying at the Polynesian, and you (Eeyore) were staying at AS, and I invited you to come spend the day with me, I don't think either of us would consider it wrong to spend some time in the pool!

probably not:lol:

I'm not trying to judge anyone. If people feel it's their right to swim in a hotel pool that they are not staying in, or are not a guest of someone staying in that resort, then I suppose they are allowed to feel that way( who am I to say they can't). I'm just curious as to why they feel that way. I have no way of knowing if someone in my resort pool is not staying there, I don't go around checking for room keys. To me it just comes down to the fact that I'm asked not to do it, so I don't.

 

[SilentRascal]

Originally posted by JungleJim
Thats funny, I think calling someones opinion "insignificant crap" is also rude.
If you don't like the term "class envy" why would you label a woman " Mrs. Thurston Howell the 3rd"?

Well if you'd consider how absurd it is to whine about people who pool-hop, you'd see that it really is "insignificant crap". That's not rude, it's realistic. As far as "class envy" goes, I haven't observed too much of that, but I do agree with his comment about "Mrs. Thurston Howell the 3rd". People who think that just because they're staying at one of the more expensive resorts entitles them to be put up on some sort of pedestal by Disney are deluding themselves. Their extra privileges come from the resort they're at, not by being put first in attraction lines or anything like that. They're like those who walk around the World overdressed, wearing tons of jewelry and makeup, and making a show of buying a lot of souveniers. "Mrs. Thurston Howell the 3rd" is a highly appropriate term for them.

 

[mwitkus]

Originally posted by YankeeFan


Well if you'd consider how absurd it is to whine about people who pool-hop, you'd see that it really is "insignificant crap".

i don't think anyone here has been whining about people who pool-hop... we are just stating that we find it to be inappropriate and don't understand why others feel they have the right to do that.. i don't consider that whining.. i consider it discussing people whom we don't understand...

and as for calling it insignificant crap, i think that's a bit rude.

 

[SilentRascal]

Originally posted by Catch 22
Your entire post uses a reverse arguement. Exactly, there are 'Disney has several water parks and numerous other resorts with fine swimming facilities for people to use if they see fit. ' So, all those who are off site can go to the water parks, and pay. If you're at a resort then you have pools to use. That is how it should be. Just because you STEAL on your own doesn't stop it being theft. Would you pull up a chair at a restaurant and start eating with a family on their bill? Would you hop into a taxi with someone else and then let them pay? Would you walk into someone elses room and use the bed, just because it wasn' occupied. It's the same thing! People have paid for a service and you feel that it is OK for you to steal that service, just because you feel that you have a right to something for nothing. If I stay at a resort then I don't feel that YOU have the right to make me travel to another resort to use the pool just because you and others like you have trespassed onto the resort to use the pool.
Part of my hotel payment has gone towards cleaning the towels that are on poolside, providing the staff to man the pool and keeping the pool area clean, so what gives YOU to right to steal from ME? Which, if you break it down, is exactly what you are doing? Theives find it easy to justify what they do, because they so often ignore the pertinent facts of the situation.

There's no reverse argument there at all. There's also NO stealing or thievery at all by those who pool-hop; claims to the contrary are ridiculous and don't hold any weight. Just because YOU claim it to be theft doesn't make it so. Your little analogies about joining a family in the process of eating, taking their taxi, or using the bed in their room is completely irrelevant to the topic. It's not the same thing at all. The pool is an added amenity to the hotel, it's not a service that one pays for, and thus not stealing on the part of one using the pool at another resort. People who don't have a leg to stand on in this argument are the ones claiming poolhopping is thievery, when even they know that it's not. Claiming it to be stealing is so weak, people ought to be ashamed of themselves for not having a stronger argument.