All about the awaited Soarin' Over the World movie

[jt04]

ALOT of precise information has come out of this blog (most concerning Eurodisney, however). The only reason the English is broken is because its his second language (that's only judging by his accent in one of his videos, though).

Look around its archives. Its got a lot of old concept art and WDI interviews. Verrry cool.

Yes he definitely has great sources. And the blog is easily one of the best out there.

 

[TP2000]

ALOT of precise information has come out of this blog (most concerning Eurodisney, however). The only reason the English is broken is because its his second language (that's only judging by his accent in one of his videos, though).

Look around its archives. Its got a lot of old concept art and WDI interviews. Verrry cool.

I agree. I speak two other foreign languages, but I'm afraid butcher them to death and I can't even imagine trying to create a blog in those languages. My hat is off to anyone who tries that in any language other than their native tongue.

 

[stuart]

What about Soarin' over old Scottish castles (Eilean Donan, Dunollie and Stalker), swooping down on the banks of Loch Ness or Loch Lomond and then taking in the myriad of Scottish Islands.

Castle Stalker

Dunollie Castle

Eilean Donan

Loch Lomond

Considering the part that Scottish migrants played in the founding and continuing success of the USA, it would be a welcome nod to the old country.

Gets my vote!

 

[WDW1974]

While the source of the story is very, very good (I highly recommend checking out Disney and More regularly ... and his book on DLP is one of the very best I have seen!), I admit this is very strange.

First, haven't heard a thing about it for DCA ... and frankly, DCA has bigger issues to deal with. Soarin is hugely popular there as it is in FLA.

Second, it isn't going to Tokyo in the next five years (Disney had tried to sell OLC on it for years, so they'd pick up the tab of filming!)

Third, it was tabled for DSP in favor of a very kewl Ratatouille attraction (think TDL Hunny Hunt technology).

Fourth, I can't imagine it being high on TDO's radar because Soarin is so incredibly popular and EPCOT has huge issues (like WoL, Imagination, WS expansion etc ...)

Finally, even if filming happens next year that doesn't mean an attraction is coming soon anywhere ... Star Tours 2.0 has been worked on for years and likely won't debut anywhere before late 2010 or 2011 at the earliest.

So ... yet again, don't jump to conclusions, but the source is very reputable ...

 

[Jasonflz]

While the source of the story is very, very good (I highly recommend checking out Disney and More regularly ... and his book on DLP is one of the very best I have seen!), I admit this is very strange.

First, haven't heard a thing about it for DCA ... and frankly, DCA has bigger issues to deal with. Soarin is hugely popular there as it is in FLA.

Second, it isn't going to Tokyo in the next five years (Disney had tried to sell OLC on it for years, so they'd pick up the tab of filming!)

Third, it was tabled for DSP in favor of a very kewl Ratatouille attraction (think TDL Hunny Hunt technology).

Fourth, I can't imagine it being high on TDO's radar because Soarin is so incredibly popular and EPCOT has huge issues (like WoL, Imagination, WS expansion etc ...)

Finally, even if filming happens next year that doesn't mean an attraction is coming soon anywhere ... Star Tours 2.0 has been worked on for years and likely won't debut anywhere before late 2010 or 2011 at the earliest.

So ... yet again, don't jump to conclusions, but the source is very reputable ...

Fully agreed. I keep reading in the DCA project tracker that Soarin' Over The World is planned for 2013. Is there any reliability to this?

 

[jt04]

Fully agreed. I keep reading in the DCA project tracker that Soarin' Over The World is planned for 2013. Is there any reliability to this?

Yes.

 

[Jasonflz]

^:sohappy: Interesting that DCA is shredding the whole California theme but I am still glad it is coming. Thanks jt.

Unfortunately that doesn't relate to when ours is coming out.

 

[ford91exploder]

Digital would be great but this is a IMAX type projection system and right now the Digital IMAX system can only project on a relatively small screen.

IMAX film screen size 76x97 feet, IMAX Digital 28x58 feet which is less than 1/3 of the screen area of it's film counterpart.

Part of the problem is IMAX Film is shot on 70mm film stock and each frame is about 2.5" by 3" there is no digital sensor that large YET and so based on the available pixels there is an upper limit on enlargment.

A normal 35mm film frame using fine grain film has an effective digital resolution of about 100 Mpixels it's just now that professional cameras are beginning to approach film's resolution, The images made by digital cameras have been 'good enough' for most magazine work but the big billboards are either made on film or scanning digital backs.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Digital would be great but this is a IMAX type projection system and right now the Digital IMAX system can only project on a relatively small screen.

IMAX film screen size 76x97 feet, IMAX Digital 28x58 feet which is less than 1/3 of the screen area of it's film counterpart.

Part of the problem is IMAX Film is shot on 70mm film stock and each frame is about 2.5" by 3" there is no digital sensor that large YET and so based on the available pixels there is an upper limit on enlargment.

A normal 35mm film frame using fine grain film has an effective digital resolution of about 100 Mpixels it's just now that professional cameras are beginning to approach film's resolution, The images made by digital cameras have been 'good enough' for most magazine work but the big billboards are either made on film or scanning digital backs.

Didn't Universal address a similar problem through syncing multiple projectors for The Simpsons?

The makeover doesn't make sense to me for DCA, instead of the question "Why do we have a ride about California in the Land pavilion at Epcot?" The question would become, "Why do we have a ride about the entire World in Disney's California Adventure?"

One thing mentioned in the blog post is lengthening the ride. I know there had been rumors of adding additional screens to Soarin' to increase capacity. Would this be considered? Given the existing popularity of the attraction, and a new, presumably higher quality film, I would expect that popularity to increase. Adding a 3rd and possibly a 4th screen (or somehow more seats) would help with a longer ride as well as an increased demand.

Lastly, if thinking about icons for specific countries, I don't really think of many scent tie ins. Does anyone have ideas on how the scents would be employed?

 

[EpcotMark]

I would really love to see this, although I think WDW & DCA both have a lot to fix before they start messing with tried and true attractions. In any case, I'll believe it when I see it or when there is confirmation from a more reliable source (no offense, but some blog written in broken english isn't exactly a reliable source in my book).

As a former Epcot Cast Member, I concur with this guy.

 

[Skyway]

I'm truly confused by some of you.

Some of the same people who accuse TDO for being "cheap" on the Space Mountain re-do because they don't see a need to improve the most popular ride in that park believe that TDO is going to SPEND MONEY to change Soarin' even though it is the most popular ride in that park.

So which is it?

Also, I don't quite understand why everyone is so psyched about a "world" Soarin' film, when the current one is perfect the way it is.

So, you want pyramids instead of the Golden Gate Bridge? OK. But I bet the new film would still contain fly-overs of mountains, oceans, rivers, deserts, agriculture, and a city skyline---- the exact same experience Soarin' is right now. If they didn't tell you it was California, I bet most Epcot visitors would have NO IDEA that the entire film was shot in one state (the same state that produces almost all of the films we see in the parks and elsewhere. I don't see anyone complaining that CSI Miami is really shot in LA).

So, seriously, how is a new film going to be THAT much better. And do you REALLY think the same Disney some of you call "cheap" is going to spring for that, with so little payoff in return??

 

[ASilmser]

As a former Epcot Cast Member, I concur with this guy.

Originally Posted by WDWFigment
I would really love to see this, although I think WDW & DCA both have a lot to fix before they start messing with tried and true attractions. In any case, I'll believe it when I see it or when there is confirmation from a more reliable source (no offense, but some blog written in broken english isn't exactly a reliable source in my book).

You should judge this source on it's merits. This guy is the real deal. The reason his English is broken is because he is from Europe (I think he's French). Hence, his interest in DLP. I am sure he speaks and writes in English better than most of us could speak and write in French.

I am not saying his information is correct, but he is not some hack blogger. He is one of the best out there. I, for one, appreciate his attempts to blog in English.

 

[SirGoofy]

I'm truly confused by some of you.

Some of the same people who accuse TDO for being "cheap" on the Space Mountain re-do because they don't see a need to improve the most popular ride in that park believe that TDO is going to SPEND MONEY to change Soarin' even though it is the most popular ride in that park.

So which is it?

Also, I don't quite understand why everyone is so psyched about a "world" Soarin' film, when the current one is perfect the way it is.

So, you want pyramids instead of the Golden Gate Bridge? OK. But I bet the new film would still contain fly-overs of mountains, oceans, rivers, deserts, agriculture, and a city skyline---- the exact same experience Soarin' is right now. If they didn't tell you it was California, I bet most Epcot visitors would have NO IDEA that the entire film was shot in one state (the same state that produces almost all of the films we see in the parks and elsewhere. I don't see anyone complaining that CSI Miami is really shot in LA).

So, seriously, how is a new film going to be THAT much better. And do you REALLY think the same Disney some of you call "cheap" is going to spring for that, with so little payoff in return??

I have oftened accused TDO of being cheap, but even more than being cheap, they are out of touch. Many of them have no idea what these parks need refurb/attraction wise IMO, and this is another example of it.

Am I sad that Soarin' will get a nice new film? Heck no. But it sure as heck isn't near the top of my list of things that need to be done to Epcot.

 

[dxwwf3]

I have oftened accused TDO of being cheap, but even more than being cheap, they are out of touch. Many of them have no idea what these parks need refurb/attraction wise IMO, and this is another example of it.

Am I sad that Soarin' will get a nice new film? Heck no. But it sure as heck isn't near the top of my list of things that need to be done to Epcot.

Well said :sohappy:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

While the source of the story is very, very good (I highly recommend checking out Disney and More regularly ... and his book on DLP is one of the very best I have seen!), I admit this is very strange.

First, haven't heard a thing about it for DCA ... and frankly, DCA has bigger issues to deal with. Soarin is hugely popular there as it is in FLA.

Second, it isn't going to Tokyo in the next five years (Disney had tried to sell OLC on it for years, so they'd pick up the tab of filming!)

Third, it was tabled for DSP in favor of a very kewl Ratatouille attraction (think TDL Hunny Hunt technology).

Fourth, I can't imagine it being high on TDO's radar because Soarin is so incredibly popular and EPCOT has huge issues (like WoL, Imagination, WS expansion etc ...)

Finally, even if filming happens next year that doesn't mean an attraction is coming soon anywhere ... Star Tours 2.0 has been worked on for years and likely won't debut anywhere before late 2010 or 2011 at the earliest.

So ... yet again, don't jump to conclusions, but the source is very reputable ...

Another twist!:lol::sohappy::lookaroun


Anyway...Sounds good. Perhaps they wanna line this up for the 40th? I know I and others would prefer JII/SSE/Anythingelse but this is nice.

 

[WDW1974]

Another twist!:lol::sohappy::lookaroun


Anyway...Sounds good. Perhaps they wanna line this up for the 40th? I know I and others would prefer JII/SSE/Anythingelse but this is nice.

I truly believe they want to ignore the 40th at all costs ... but I'd love to be wrong.

Again, it makes sense to have it at EPCOT because the current film is limited to California. But a lot of 'ifs' need to be answered first as I've said. Replacing the film at DCA is a very, very low priority although it has been discussed (of course in 2004 people at WDI were telling me that EPCOT would have a new film by 2007 at the latest, so you can see how plans change).

 

[SirGoofy]

I truly believe they want to ignore the 40th at all costs ... but I'd love to be wrong.

Again, it makes sense to have it at EPCOT because the current film is limited to California. But a lot of 'ifs' need to be answered first as I've said. Replacing the film at DCA is a very, very low priority although it has been discussed (of course in 2004 people at WDI were telling me that EPCOT would have a new film by 2007 at the latest, so you can see how plans change).

Disneyland got Indy for their 40th.

We'll get a pin set.

 

[WDW1974]

Disneyland got Indy for their 40th.

We'll get a pin set.

That's my concern, Sir.

But it should also concern Disney because pins aren't selling ... the local outlet dropped all pins to $3.99 three months ago, then $2.99, then last week $1.99 and a CM pal there told me they have plans to drop them to 99 cents if they can't move them.

People may still be visiting WDW, but they aren't pl__________g down $12.99 for a pin that cost a dime.

Maybe that will inspire Disney to actually do something for the 40th!

 

[SirGoofy]

I hope so. I also hope it wakes them up to the fact that 99% of their merchandise is crap.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

I truly believe they want to ignore the 40th at all costs ... but I'd love to be wrong.

Again, it makes sense to have it at EPCOT because the current film is limited to California. But a lot of 'ifs' need to be answered first as I've said. Replacing the film at DCA is a very, very low priority although it has been discussed (of course in 2004 people at WDI were telling me that EPCOT would have a new film by 2007 at the latest, so you can see how plans change).

I don't think they want to ignore it...But I don't see them doing as big of a deal as usual. Be that TDO being TDO and cheap, or just the Economy, I don't know.:shrug:

I'm thinking they will do something though. Hope so, anyway. I plan on being there.:lol: