All about the awaited Soarin' Over the World movie

[Tom Morrow]

I definitely hope they keep the musical score - its such a great score!

If they were to go through with this movie it would just be an upgrade to the ride, not a new ride. The upgrade being "now you're not just flying over California!" since that doesn't make sense in Florida, or at a park about discovery, innovation, and the world we live in, anyway.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

"Both versions of the ride use the same orchestral score by film composer Jerry Goldsmith, who is said to have come down from his first ride in tears. In addition to finding the ride visually beautiful and magical, he said that his father was a pilot who loved all things Californian. "I'd do anything to be part of this project," Goldsmith said. "I'd even score the film for free."

Okay, yeah... touching any part of the score really would seems like disrespect. If done correctly they could make it work, but -whew- there are some big shoes to fill.

 

[Jasonflz]

Too bad Jerry Goldsmith wouldn't be around to give his input.

In know it's from Wiki, but here's an interesting quote:

"Both versions of the ride use the same orchestral score by film composer Jerry Goldsmith, who is said to have come down from his first ride in tears. In addition to finding the ride visually beautiful and magical, he said that his father was a pilot who loved all things Californian. "I'd do anything to be part of this project," Goldsmith said. "I'd even score the film for free."

That really is amazing.

R.I.P. One of the musical geniuses of our generation.

And yes, touching the score would be disrespectful. I doubt anyone could pull off the current version. (yes, even Bruce Broughton)

 

[IWant2GoNow]

So reading in the Kodak thread about Soarin' something clicked in my head. And I wanted to see what everyone thought of this...

If they were to update the Soarin' film to something new, what are the odds that they will change it to a 3D film also with that movement slowly creeping in?

I'm kind of on the fence about the idea because the curved screen of Soarin' creates fairly good depth already, but adding even more couldn't hurt, could it? Another con would be having to wear glasses for the ride which, IMHO, would detract from the feeling of hang-gliding but not too much.

Flame all you want for the bump, I was just curious what everyone thought.

I'm flame retarded! ... wait... :lookaroun

 

[Thrill]

If they were to update the Soarin' film to something new, what are the odds that they will change it to a 3D film also with that movement slowly creeping in?

I'm kind of on the fence about the idea because the curved screen of Soarin' creates fairly good depth already, but adding even more couldn't hurt, could it? Another con would be having to wear glasses for the ride which, IMHO, would detract from the feeling of hang-gliding but not too much.

I thought that Star Tours 2 is going to be 3D, but is using a technology that doesn't need glasses.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

I thought that Star Tours 2 is going to be 3D, but is using a technology that doesn't need glasses.

I'm not sure but that would probably work better for something like Soarin'.

I just don't want Disney to start turning into USO. I was there in June and never noticed just how many rides/attractions are 3D movies, or 3D simulators, or just regular simulators. It's okay to have a few, but quite a few of their attractions are all the same experience with a different theme.

Not saying USO is bad, I really enjoy it, just an observation I made on my latest trip. :wave:

 

[tirian]

What are you talking about? Since when the quality of the infos depends of the quality of the written english?
I don't take your comment badly, that's not the problem, but i am french, and i do sincerely my best when i write a text.

Don't apologize too much; your heading "Disney and More Opens Its Vaults" correctly uses "its" instead of "it's." Most English-speaking people can't get that right! :ROFLOL:

 

[Rob562]

If they were to update the Soarin' film to something new, what are the odds that they will change it to a 3D film also with that movement slowly creeping in?

I don't think 3D can work with the curved Omnimax screens on Soarin'... (Or at the least I'd think that it would only look good in the middle and might get distorted as you get farther to the side).

-Rob

 

[ntoeman]

As of right now, Soarin' can't even go digital because of the physical unique shape of the screen so I kinda doubt it can go 3D. I don't know much about the no-glasses 3D technology but from an operations aspect, doing 3D glasses with Soarin' as it is now would be a nightmare with how many glasses would end up in the pit.

 

[thelookingglass]

I'm not sure but that would probably work better for something like Soarin'.

I just don't want Disney to start turning into USO. I was there in June and never noticed just how many rides/attractions are 3D movies, or 3D simulators, or just regular simulators. It's okay to have a few, but quite a few of their attractions are all the same experience with a different theme.

Not saying USO is bad, I really enjoy it, just an observation I made on my latest trip. :wave:

Number of 3D movie attractions at WDW: 4
Number of Simulator attractions at WDW: 3 (5 if you count Sum of all Thrills and CyberSpace Mountain)

Number of 3D movie attractions at USO: 2
Number of Simulator attractions at USO: 2

Spiderman is not a simulator.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

Number of 3D movie attractions at WDW: 4
Number of Simulator attractions at WDW: 3 (5 if you count Sum of all Thrills and CyberSpace Mountain)

Number of 3D movie attractions at USO: 2
Number of Simulator attractions at USO: 2

Spiderman is not a simulator.

I'm not counting IoA anyway.

So in 4 parks at WDW, there's one 3D movie for each park and one simulator for each park, essentially. (I count Sum of All Thrills.)

MK- MP
Ep- M:S, SoAT, EO
DHS- ST, M-V3D
AK- ITtBaB

Yet in USO alone, there's 2 3D movies and 2 simulators.

USO- Shrek 4D, Terminator 3D, The Simpsons, and Jimmy Neutron

I do agree that WDW has a few also but they are spread out well to where you're more than likely not going to have multiple experiences with these in the same day unless you are a heavy park hopper.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

I think you mean 'USF'... the name of the park is Universal Studios Florida.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I think you mean 'USF'... the name of the park is Universal Studios Florida.

don't they go by Universal Orlando?

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

don't they go by Universal Orlando?

The whole property is Universal Orlando Resort, the two parks are Universal Studios Florida and Islands of Adventure.

 

[Horizonsfan]

I don't think 3D can work with the curved Omnimax screens on Soarin'... (Or at the least I'd think that it would only look good in the middle and might get distorted as you get farther to the side).

-Rob

The Simpsons ride at UO uses similar/the same type of screens and it's in 3D. It could be done. Should it though?

I really would rather they not go 3D on Soarin' (I realize this is just armchair imagineering, just sayin'). Every other new attraction's selling poin is "IT's 3D!" Disney (and other parks) should find some other point to hype.

 

[JEANYLASER]

thanks for the info!

 

[IWant2GoNow]

I think you mean 'USF'... the name of the park is Universal Studios Florida.

Oh my mistake. Always thought the proper was USR for the resort and USO for the park. Sorry if my post wasn't clear.

Where's your Epcot updates been by the way, Mr.EPCOT?

 

[lnsemsf]

The Simpsons ride at UO uses similar/the same type of screens and it's in 3D.

The Simpsons ride is not in 3D at all. It's a normal 2D projected film, just very big.

 

[raven]

As of right now, Soarin' can't even go digital because of the physical unique shape of the screen so I kinda doubt it can go 3D.

True. There have been talks of flatenning out th screen (which I think would change the entire experience) but they are looking for a digital projection system that will work with the current application. Nothing has been invented yet but that's never stopped WDI from working on a project.

 

[Thrill]

As of right now, Soarin' can't even go digital because of the physical unique shape of the screen so I kinda doubt it can go 3D. I don't know much about the no-glasses 3D technology but from an operations aspect, doing 3D glasses with Soarin' as it is now would be a nightmare with how many glasses would end up in the pit.

Did some research and found out that glasses-free 3D (autostereoscopy is the fancy name for it, apparently) can be done in two ways:

-Eye tracking, which ensures that each eye sees a different view to create the 3D effect. This technology is limited to one user and thus can't be used for Soarin'.
-Lenticular lenses and parallax barriers, both designed to show multiple views. I don't think that lenticular lenses will work with that many viewing angles, and parallax barriers need LCD displays to work and are best viewed in one spot as well.

Toshiba claims that it's releasing a glasses-free 3D TV by the end of the year, and I'd assume that it's using a technology similar to what we'll see in Star Tours 2.

Anyway, while 3D would be nice, it's going to need glasses, and I'd rather not have the darkened images. Once the technology comes around for clear 3D imagery to be projected on an Omnimax screen without the need for glasses, then they can add it. For now, the effect is fine, and I think glasses will just ruin the illusion.