Additional Info on "The Laugh Floor" storyline

[wdwishes2005]

What a bunch of whiners. Most of the "naysayer" comments are the most moronic, hypocritcal baloney I've seen on these boards to date. Explain. Instead of posting idiotic attacks explain yourself. I don't appreciate being attacked without an explanation

*First of all, "The Laugh Floor" sounds AWESOME. We're talking a large-scale improv comedy show inside the Magic Kingdom. Think Comedy Warehouse at Pleasure Island. Think SAC in Orlando. Think Second City. Think "Who's Line is it Anyways". It will be these artists (LIVE performers-- which many of you complain are not featured enough at Disney) that will be the heart of this show---not Pixar, not Imagineering, and certainly not any kind of show writer. Are you saying you don't have faith in Disney's live performers? "the laugh floor" Has nothing to do with TL. I am shocked that WDI thought this was a good idea. I don't have faith that live performers can come up with funny, different jokes every ride cycle.

*Turtle Talk is, hands down one of the most popular WDW attractions in years. If you disagree, then don't complain about the huge line snaking through The Living Seas. Could it be because of small capacity show in an otherwise boring building?

*If you're opposed to "cloning" Disney technology, I don't want to see another post about getting Disneyland's Indiana Jones Adventure. WDW had Dinosaur, and according to many of you, we don't need two similar rides. And don't complain about Body Wars going away. Apparently, they never should have duplicated Star Tours (or actually, since Body Wars arrived in FL first, then Star Tours should be destroyed!) Don't DARE start a thread about Western River Expedition. WDW got its slow-moving boat ride because people complained and moaned so Disney would "clone" Pirates of the Caribbean. IJA and Dino are two different rides. same system maybe, but entirely different rides. TLF is like a mod to TTWC. I agree ST should never have been built.

*Nothing's turning into "Pixarland". Over ELEVEN years (count em, eleven!) Pixar/Disney AS A TEAM has produced SIX original movies and a popular sequel. Pixar IS Disney. So it stands to reason that each park would get ONE or TWO attractions based on a successful movie over MORE THAN A DECADE. I can't imagine that anyone complained in 1995 that Disney would base attractions on Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Lion King. Why is it so wrong that they make attractions on their current hits? And it's only been ONE or TWO per park! Let's see. Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. Tough to be a Bug. Nemo the Musical. The Seas with Nemo. And now The Laugh Floor. Five attractions spread over three parks does not a "Pixarland" make.
Corrus knows his stuff. If he says its turning into pixarland he obviously knows something I don't. You of all people should know he is the most reliable poster on the boards......

*Who cares if cartoon characters "invade" Tomorrowland. What's the alternative? I don't hear anyone wanting to bring back "Mission to Mars" (and Disney's attempt to create a modern day Mars attraction at Epcot also gets criticized!). Seriously, with Epcot already struggling to provide a real-life "Future World", what harm is there in creating a Fantasy-like future at Magic Kingdom? "Cartoon characters are not original!" some argue. So should they have built Stitch's Great Escape with a GENERIC alien? Should they have based Space Ranger Spin on a never-heard-of-before Buck Rogers type character? Or should they simply tap their ever-popular character archive? Oh, I don't know, come up with something original and unique? Should we add a cartoon overlay to SM? it and TTA are the only things not based on cartoons that fit the theming, and IMHO they are the best rides in TL. Coincidence? I think not

I hope you come up with an intelligent insult to me and the other posters so I don't have to listen to that generic, childish, and just plain stupid insult again.

My answers in bold. Enjoy.

 

[imagineer boy]

My answers in bold. Enjoy.

I agree with all of your answers.

I can't believe that the Imagineers think this laugh floor idea sounded good in TL too. It seems that as of late, the Imagineers seemed to have neglected the idea of putting rides in proper places to fit their themes. Its become apparent in the Nemo rehab of TLS which is odd that they have now made a completely character driven pavillion in Epcot now and dropping the good sea base alpha story ( I think it would have been better to just have a few nemo exibits and turtle talk, but keep the whole sea base alpha theme with a few touch ups ), bringing back the submarines in DL except with a Nemo theme in their tomorrowland which contradicts the theme also, putting a Mickey scorcerer hat right in the middle of a hollywood themed street, and now this. It really concerns me. Don't get me wrong, its not like I've lost all faith in the imagineers, but I really don't like some of the decisions they've made as of late.

 

[Pongo]

My answers in bold. Enjoy.

Actually, I thought his points were quite valid.

Yours are too.

But saying his input wasn't intellegent isn't accurate.

 

[Connor002]

Its become apparent in the Nemo rehab of TLS which is odd that they have now made a completely character driven pavillion in Epcot now and dropping the good sea base alpha story

What's wrong with a character driven pavilion?
Secondly, what was good about the Seabase?

( I think it would have been better to just have a few nemo exibits and turtle talk, but keep the whole sea base alpha theme with a few touch ups ),

Who's to say you can't still imagine it's the Sea Base? The concept is the same... you're under the sea... the difference is that the modification brought a dying pavilion back to life.

bringing back the submarines in DL except with a Nemo theme in their tomorrowland which contradicts the theme also,

Isn't it better than letting it sit dormant?

putting a Mickey scorcerer hat right in the middle of a hollywood themed street, and now this.

I don't like it either, but that doesn;t mean you have to consider your view the only view. THere are others that like the hat.
Did you think of that?

It really concerns me. Don't get me wrong, its not like I've lost all faith in the imagineers, but I really don't like some of the decisions they've made as of late.

Leave them to do their job, and you to do yours.

 

[Pongo]

I agree with all of your answers.

I can't believe that the Imagineers think this laugh floor idea sounded good in TL too. It seems that as of late, the Imagineers seemed to have neglected the idea of putting rides in proper places to fit their themes. Its become apparent in the Nemo rehab of TLS which is odd that they have now made a completely character driven pavillion in Epcot now and dropping the good sea base alpha story ( I think it would have been better to just have a few nemo exibits and turtle talk, but keep the whole sea base alpha theme with a few touch ups ), bringing back the submarines in DL except with a Nemo theme in their tomorrowland which contradicts the theme also, putting a Mickey scorcerer hat right in the middle of a hollywood themed street, and now this. It really concerns me. Don't get me wrong, its not like I've lost all faith in the imagineers, but I really don't like some of the decisions they've made as of late.

Judging the theming of an attraction before it opens is just like judging the attraction itself before it opens.

Please, don't judge a book by the picture on its cover. You know nothing of its theming except for a working title.

Clearly, ignorance is NOT bliss.

EDIT: Also - how did the original Submarine Voyage at DL fit into Tomorrowland's theme? It wasn't based on 20KLUtS. The subs weren't even designed to look like Nautiluses.

 

[Connor002]

On a side note... I'm very excited over the Improv comedy element...

 

[imagineer boy]

EDIT: Also - how did the original Submarine Voyage at DL fit into Tomorrowland's theme? It wasn't based on 20KLUtS. The subs weren't even designed to look like Nautiluses.

Well, keep in mind that the old tomorrowland in DL was based off of an "acurate" prediction of the future. The whole idea of the ride was an adventure through liquid space, with futuristic scientific tools to research the sea for future use. There's a video of it at Visions Fantastic.com if you want more info.

 

[Pongo]

Well, keep in mind that the old tomorrowland in DL was based off of an "acurate" prediction of the future. The whole idea of the ride was an adventure through liquid space, with futuristic scientific tools to research the sea for future use. There's a video of it at Visions Fantastic.com if you want more info.

I'm sorry, but submarines were NOT futuristic in the '60s.

In fact, they were thirty+ YEARS not futuristic.

 

[Connor002]

In fact, they were thirty+ YEARS not futuristic.

Actaully... not to fuel either side... but if my history is correct...
There was submarine of sorts in the Revolutionary War.
It failed horribly, but it was still existent. :lookaroun

 

[Pongo]

Actaully... not to fuel either side... but if my history is correct...
There was submarine of sorts in the Revolutionary War.
It failed horribly, but it was still existent. :lookaroun

:lol:

Well there you go. I was going by the WWII German U-Boats, but that works too...

 

[mousermerf]

On a side note... I'm very excited over the Improv comedy element...

I'm afraid that will be the downfall. Improv is really a series of memorized skits. The material is rarely made up out of the air, but rather worked to fit a certain audience or situation. This means there will be a show writer involved.

For example, Turtle Talk does have interact parts that change how it plays out, but several of the responses are scripted. Anyone who has seen it several times knows this - but accepts it since the general premise is cute and enjoyable. Who doesn't want to talk to a turtle?

Now.. Monsters doing improv comedy...? I dunno.. it doesn't appeal to me, and i'm usually pretty good at knowing if it's "just me" or if the general public will concur, and i feel on this one that they will.

I never found Billy Crystal to be particularly funny in the first place. Did you seen America's Sweetharts? That movie proves the man can do some seriously unfunny stuff when scripted to do so. I feel he thrived with others to play off of.. but I never found he terribly good on his own. If they work in Robin Williams then it could be very good, as those two play off each other beautifully, but if it's him and other random "Monsters" i feel it's gonna suffer from bad show writing. WDI's track record for show writing has been terrible lately, especially in comedic attempts (Stitch, Imagination, LMAX even, to name a few).

 

[Pongo]

I'm afraid that will be the downfall. Improv is really a series of memorized skits. The material is rarely made up out of the air, but rather worked to fit a certain audience or situation. This means there will be a show writer involved.

WHAT?! As someone who has done improv NUMEROUS times in NUMEROUS situations, this couldn't be further from the truth. Improv is NOT a series of memorized skits. Sure, the basic storyline of the attraction will be written and/or scripted, but the comedic elements will be unique to each show. That's where the improv comes in. Improv is improv. I think Disney will come up with a handful of experts (like for the PI comedy club) to do a great job.

I never found Billy Crystal to be particularly funny in the first place. Did you seen America's Sweetharts? That movie proves the man can do some seriously unfunny stuff when scripted to do so. I feel he thrived with others to play off of.. but I never found he terribly good on his own. If they work in Robin Williams then it could be very good, as those two play off each other beautifully, but if it's him and other random "Monsters" i feel it's gonna suffer from bad show writing. WDI's track record for show writing has been terrible lately, especially in comedic attempts (Stitch, Imagination, LMAX even, to name a few).

I saw AS. I don't remember anything about it, however.

Luckily, (I guess, I like Billy Crystal and think he is funny) Billy Crystal won't be the person who is the voice behind Mike in the attraction.

As for WDI not being funny writers, you seem to love Turtle Talk. If you didn't find it funny and/or cute, you probably wouldn't see it so often. Laugh Floor is going to be the SAME technology with the SAME writers, it seems. Why do you have so much faith in Turtle Talk, yet so little in Monsters, Inc.?

 

[mousermerf]

To note, I have an idea of who from their PI group can do Mike Wazowski and i don't find those particular people to be all that funny.

Maybe that's the problem - i have am idea who they're going to get and what they're going to do, and i don't see it working.

There's a reason Luckey got new escorts.

 

[Connor002]

I'm afraid that will be the downfall. Improv is really a series of memorized skits.

You mean in Disney, I would hope.
I can tell you with confidence the real thing is not memorized. :lookaroun

 

[mousermerf]

Terminology confusion alert.

I mean Stand Up Comedy (improv is improvised - to a point - but based on rehearsed general scenarios and such).

If they do group improv with Monsters, that could be cute and work, but if it's Stand Up... I'm not sold on the idea, but open minded.

 

[Connor002]

WHAT?! As someone who has done improv NUMEROUS times in NUMEROUS situations, this couldn't be further from the truth. Improv is NOT a series of memorized skits.

It's never memorized.
:lookaroun
Trust me.
:lookaroun

 

[Connor002]

(improv is improvised - to a point - but based on rehearsed general scenarios and such).

Um, no. :lookaroun
Generally, in real improv, nothing is rehearsed.
Such is the nature of a show.

 

[mousermerf]

You should see the documentary about Second City and their rehearsal process.

 

[Pongo]

It's never memorized.
:lookaroun
Trust me.
:lookaroun

I know. I didn't say it was.

I've done improv A LOT.

 

[Connor002]

I know. I didn't say it was.

I've done improv A LOT.

Well, so have I.
Care for an Improv-off?
I've played my Woosh and have a buzzer. :drevil: