flynnibus
Premium Member
But he wasn't fired... don't let those details get in the way of your spiced up tales
(He didn't get the tap he needed after saving Disneyland so he left)
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But he wasn't fired... don't let those details get in the way of your spiced up tales
(He didn't get the tap he needed after saving Disneyland so he left)
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Funny that's not how Sprit or Al Lutz described it, More on the order of 'Quit or be fired' yes technically Oumet 'quit' but the reality is he did not have a choice.
DznyRktekt
Well-Known Member
Selfishly I am somewhat happy Mr. Ouimet moved on to Cedar Fair. My local park has never looked better.
To help narrow the scope of the discussion, here is a list of things Spirit has mentioned in this thread. Please limit the scope of this thread to....
Valentines Day
Cupid emoji
visiting all of Disney’s international parks
ticket prices going up
“The Weatherman”''s and “Chappie”'s cluelessness as to price increases
the value of an AP
what “lifestylers” and bloggers are doing about AP prices
are MK and DAK worth their one day price ticket?
are DHS and Epcot worth even half their one day price ticket?
Disney financials, the darling of Wall Street
Is Iger overstaying his welcome like Eisner did?
Disney’s ESPN problem
Movie studios are doing well… but c’mon, they’ll fail eventually, right? cf. the next pirate movie
the pirates’ Superbowl commercial sucked and heads should roll for it
Cars franchise is growing tired (and Planes, right?)
That thing where Iger is a thin skinned petulant brat and refuses to answer a question from Richie Greenfield
CM food discounts doesn’t mean Disney is nice to their CMs, it means their restaurants are failing
Disney has little use for guests and even less use for CMs
Disney premier restaurants survive mostly on bloggers and government aid
Spirit would still like a CM to take him to lunch at any of those fancy places, tho
Parking and resort fees: though rumored to be coming for years, in Spirit’s opinion, will happen ‘soon’
People should be calling TDO and everyone from Georgie K on down to stop them from doing this unannounced thing of adding parking and resort fees
Spirit is a DVCer
Disneyland Paris takeover: Disney had an evil plot to let the park rot so they can easily buy them out and make “debt disappear”
Though, it is good that DLP is going to get some love now
DLP’s 25th anniversary was more sparkle than substance
DLP need to market to countries other than UK, Spain, and France
DLP’s Buzz Lightyear harmed the consistency of story in the parc
DLP’s neglect saved it from recent bad decisions in other parks
DLP faces competition from Germany’s parks with more bang for the buck, though lesser themed
Spirit went on a Disney Cruise and visited WDW twice recently
Did all the bloggers think Rivers of Light was the greatest thing ever? Or other thoughts?
RoL was 10 years of missteps and a final truncated version
The Walt Disney Company’s Board of Directors...
Iger: he was considering politics; was criticized by Bernie Sanders; vacillated on meeting the president; removed two possible successors; soon to join the Billionaire "Bois" club; planted a story in the Wall Street Journal about staying on longer; but other board members are vocal about no extensions; it's like replacing the Pope.
Burke: intrigue with feelers about him going to be Disney's new chief; Universal “fanbois” like him, but Disney wouldn’t want him; he has an ego; not likely to be asked to replace Iger
Mark Woodbury: No. 2 at Universal parks now; widely unliked, like Bruce Vaughn was, co-workers think of him as Satan; likes screens too much
WDI overspends, but puts out a better product than Universal, other than Potter
Universal Beijing is just a cut-and-paste job, like Tokyo Disney Land in 1983.
Steve Bannon is Satan
Grammies weren’t that entertaining. Karaoke car and Sweet Caroline didn’t go well
contemporary music is held by Spirit in the same regard as the typical blogger/podcaster/Lifestyler
Some people in the Trump cabinet want us to go to war with China, but let’s not get into politics
A war with China will kill us all, and consequently, be bad for business with Disney and Universal
Universal Beijing: a model of the new Beijing park will be put up in Universal Orlando; project is 18-24 months behind; they’ll catch up, but then delay opening for 6 – 12 months, just like Shanghai Disney; Jurassic World looks good, the rest not so much; mostly a Western type park; ignoring Beijing weather at their peril; Beijing has a smog problem; no common sense; it will be like DCA 1.0, but with a better lineup
DLP will turn around unless there is more terrorism there or Trump starts a world war
Disney in China: plans for the new castle are still planning; top WDI talent that worked on Shanghai are going to Hong Kong
Iron Man Ride: hasn’t been a big draw… blame 80’s tech
Shanghai DL: doing relatively will and meet goal of 10 million guests in first year; but guests are spending less on extras; a third hotel likely; Disney Town struggling; The Lion King production no popular enough; most restaurants and shops are ghost towns
Disney disappointed that Rogue One didn’t do better in China
Spirit interested in “Art of…” coffee table books
DAK is the best WDW theme park, and Pandora will be good for it, tho something else could have been better
Move It Shake It is cheap and stale
Obama’s administration believed in a good relationship with China and was the best interest of everyone. Trump’s administration paints China as the enemy and some in the administration who want to engage them militarily, which is an attitude that will hurt Disney and Universal in China; this is why Spirit is sure that Iger wanted in on Trump’s advisory group to head off such a thing
DVC is coming to Caribbean’s property as a separate resort (Tom Amity said so, but Spirit said so 2 years earlier)
More DVC for the Contemporary and Coronado and Epcot-adjacent (later in the thread: DVC at Coronado: most likely no)
DVC is only going to continue to grow
Regular resort rooms are way overpriced
Epcot plans still in too much flux to comment on
Still doubtful that DHS’s SWL will open in 2019, but, hoping to be wrong about that
Not sure about Mickey ride in DHS actually going to happen
Disneyland: Bob Chapek is destroying it. SWL there and GotG ToT are awful mistakes. Though, the evening parade and shows are a bit of a balm.
Bob is shoving an IP into DL that doesn’t belong there; hey guys, can you not discuss the merits of that IP?
Huge Capital Expenditures right now aren’t enough of a balm to soothe anger over years of neglect or the wastefulness of the spending
Hey, parking garage fire!
Spring Hill Suites is an OK cheap place to stay near WDW
Again, Pandora will be great (though overbudget and late); hey guys, let’s not talk about Avatar’s box office
Bob Chapeks claim that GotG is not coming to DHS’s ToT was precipitated by Spirit, but, it could still be a lie, since he has lied before
The rumor a bunch of WDIers were fired or soon to be fired (especially Joe Rohde) is wrong. False rumor from Tom Amity.
Weatherization of Tokyo versus Shanghai
More discounts being offered, and then nickel and dime the ones you hook
hey guys, let’s not talk about Johnny Depp’s career
merits of Hong Kong’s castle and its embellishment
Euro Disney was overbuilt. DL Paris wasn’t.
WDW is cracking down on bloggers who say false things in a way to stop the leaking of true things
Spirit rightly called the Disney announcement that GotG at DCA will open Memorial Day weekend with “Meet and Gropes”
Gondolas: the current rumored ones for now, maybe more later
Luxury resort coming to near Epcot entrance, originally was planned to be DVC
Most likely a Star Wars resort coming
“Chappie” and “The Weatherman” expect WDW attendance to greatly increase
Resort occupancy numbers and what turns a profit
hey, guys, don’t talk about the DL deaths and the maintenance debate, it has nothing to do with what’s happening at WDW today
Let’s talk about Shanghai, or RoL, or Marvel in the US parks
Cupid emoji
visiting all of Disney’s international parks
ticket prices going up
“The Weatherman”''s and “Chappie”'s cluelessness as to price increases
the value of an AP
what “lifestylers” and bloggers are doing about AP prices
are MK and DAK worth their one day price ticket?
are DHS and Epcot worth even half their one day price ticket?
Disney financials, the darling of Wall Street
Is Iger overstaying his welcome like Eisner did?
Disney’s ESPN problem
Movie studios are doing well… but c’mon, they’ll fail eventually, right? cf. the next pirate movie
the pirates’ Superbowl commercial sucked and heads should roll for it
Cars franchise is growing tired (and Planes, right?)
That thing where Iger is a thin skinned petulant brat and refuses to answer a question from Richie Greenfield
CM food discounts doesn’t mean Disney is nice to their CMs, it means their restaurants are failing
Disney has little use for guests and even less use for CMs
Disney premier restaurants survive mostly on bloggers and government aid
Spirit would still like a CM to take him to lunch at any of those fancy places, tho
Parking and resort fees: though rumored to be coming for years, in Spirit’s opinion, will happen ‘soon’
People should be calling TDO and everyone from Georgie K on down to stop them from doing this unannounced thing of adding parking and resort fees
Spirit is a DVCer
Disneyland Paris takeover: Disney had an evil plot to let the park rot so they can easily buy them out and make “debt disappear”
Though, it is good that DLP is going to get some love now
DLP’s 25th anniversary was more sparkle than substance
DLP need to market to countries other than UK, Spain, and France
DLP’s Buzz Lightyear harmed the consistency of story in the parc
DLP’s neglect saved it from recent bad decisions in other parks
DLP faces competition from Germany’s parks with more bang for the buck, though lesser themed
Spirit went on a Disney Cruise and visited WDW twice recently
Did all the bloggers think Rivers of Light was the greatest thing ever? Or other thoughts?
RoL was 10 years of missteps and a final truncated version
The Walt Disney Company’s Board of Directors...
Iger: he was considering politics; was criticized by Bernie Sanders; vacillated on meeting the president; removed two possible successors; soon to join the Billionaire "Bois" club; planted a story in the Wall Street Journal about staying on longer; but other board members are vocal about no extensions; it's like replacing the Pope.
Burke: intrigue with feelers about him going to be Disney's new chief; Universal “fanbois” like him, but Disney wouldn’t want him; he has an ego; not likely to be asked to replace Iger
Mark Woodbury: No. 2 at Universal parks now; widely unliked, like Bruce Vaughn was, co-workers think of him as Satan; likes screens too much
WDI overspends, but puts out a better product than Universal, other than Potter
Universal Beijing is just a cut-and-paste job, like Tokyo Disney Land in 1983.
Steve Bannon is Satan
Grammies weren’t that entertaining. Karaoke car and Sweet Caroline didn’t go well
contemporary music is held by Spirit in the same regard as the typical blogger/podcaster/Lifestyler
Some people in the Trump cabinet want us to go to war with China, but let’s not get into politics
A war with China will kill us all, and consequently, be bad for business with Disney and Universal
Universal Beijing: a model of the new Beijing park will be put up in Universal Orlando; project is 18-24 months behind; they’ll catch up, but then delay opening for 6 – 12 months, just like Shanghai Disney; Jurassic World looks good, the rest not so much; mostly a Western type park; ignoring Beijing weather at their peril; Beijing has a smog problem; no common sense; it will be like DCA 1.0, but with a better lineup
DLP will turn around unless there is more terrorism there or Trump starts a world war
Disney in China: plans for the new castle are still planning; top WDI talent that worked on Shanghai are going to Hong Kong
Iron Man Ride: hasn’t been a big draw… blame 80’s tech
Shanghai DL: doing relatively will and meet goal of 10 million guests in first year; but guests are spending less on extras; a third hotel likely; Disney Town struggling; The Lion King production no popular enough; most restaurants and shops are ghost towns
Disney disappointed that Rogue One didn’t do better in China
Spirit interested in “Art of…” coffee table books
DAK is the best WDW theme park, and Pandora will be good for it, tho something else could have been better
Move It Shake It is cheap and stale
Obama’s administration believed in a good relationship with China and was the best interest of everyone. Trump’s administration paints China as the enemy and some in the administration who want to engage them militarily, which is an attitude that will hurt Disney and Universal in China; this is why Spirit is sure that Iger wanted in on Trump’s advisory group to head off such a thing
DVC is coming to Caribbean’s property as a separate resort (Tom Amity said so, but Spirit said so 2 years earlier)
More DVC for the Contemporary and Coronado and Epcot-adjacent (later in the thread: DVC at Coronado: most likely no)
DVC is only going to continue to grow
Regular resort rooms are way overpriced
Epcot plans still in too much flux to comment on
Still doubtful that DHS’s SWL will open in 2019, but, hoping to be wrong about that
Not sure about Mickey ride in DHS actually going to happen
Disneyland: Bob Chapek is destroying it. SWL there and GotG ToT are awful mistakes. Though, the evening parade and shows are a bit of a balm.
Bob is shoving an IP into DL that doesn’t belong there; hey guys, can you not discuss the merits of that IP?
Huge Capital Expenditures right now aren’t enough of a balm to soothe anger over years of neglect or the wastefulness of the spending
Hey, parking garage fire!
Spring Hill Suites is an OK cheap place to stay near WDW
Again, Pandora will be great (though overbudget and late); hey guys, let’s not talk about Avatar’s box office
Bob Chapeks claim that GotG is not coming to DHS’s ToT was precipitated by Spirit, but, it could still be a lie, since he has lied before
The rumor a bunch of WDIers were fired or soon to be fired (especially Joe Rohde) is wrong. False rumor from Tom Amity.
Weatherization of Tokyo versus Shanghai
More discounts being offered, and then nickel and dime the ones you hook
hey guys, let’s not talk about Johnny Depp’s career
merits of Hong Kong’s castle and its embellishment
Euro Disney was overbuilt. DL Paris wasn’t.
WDW is cracking down on bloggers who say false things in a way to stop the leaking of true things
Spirit rightly called the Disney announcement that GotG at DCA will open Memorial Day weekend with “Meet and Gropes”
Gondolas: the current rumored ones for now, maybe more later
Luxury resort coming to near Epcot entrance, originally was planned to be DVC
Most likely a Star Wars resort coming
“Chappie” and “The Weatherman” expect WDW attendance to greatly increase
Resort occupancy numbers and what turns a profit
hey, guys, don’t talk about the DL deaths and the maintenance debate, it has nothing to do with what’s happening at WDW today
Let’s talk about Shanghai, or RoL, or Marvel in the US parks
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
Don't know yet. I'm hoping for indoor with actual show scenes myself.
The_Jobu
Well-Known Member
At the very least, you deserve recognition for actually spending that much time putting this together
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Dragon Challenge is surrounded by the Wizarding World, so it makes sense that this area remains as such. Expending the footprint to include more area just seems like trying to top pigs with pigs and eventually starts to seem like desperation.
Ouimet wanted Rasulo fired and was not shy about that. Iger picked Rasulo. Most people don't stay around after trying to get their boss fired.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
They're big spenders at Disneyland Paris.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...off-part-of-Disneyland-for-private-party.html
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Good point. I think I read somewhere that AK will be the latest open park a bunch of nights this summer, even later than MK. I think the one thing that will help even things out is FP+. If you want to go at night but can only get a 10am FP time you will be forced to go in the morning. AK is a hot park so it might be hard for some people to stay all day and into the night in the heat of the summer, but people could go back to their hotel for a swim and/or break and come back for the night stuff. I think once 2019 hits crowds will significantly shift to DHS but for a few years AK might be really crowded.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Yeah there is.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Is this the most likely 2019 project?
TeriofTerror
Well-Known Member
You are so much nicer of a person than I am! All I could think was, "Too much time on my hands" (claps included).
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Quite frankly though.... what the heck is the "topic" of this thread? I can understand suggesting that certain specific discussions end or be moved to a different thread, but it's hard for me to wrap my head over what exactly is clearly "on topic" versus "off topic" when WDW1974 himself has touched on many different discussion points in this very thread.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
It's hard to believe such a calamityYou are so much nicer of a person than I am! All I could think was, "Too much time on my hands" (claps included).
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Princess Leia
Well-Known Member
If I was on my desktop, I'd be posting the Michael Scott 'STAY CALM' gif.
Omg.
While I'm not crazy about another HP roller coaster (I wish they would take into consideration HP fans who suffer back and nausea problems like my mom, or fans too small to ride a coaster), it's really, really, really hard to not be excited about this.
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the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
Good piece on Bob's largest failed acquisition; Maker Studios.
http://digiday.com/media/disney-maker-studios
http://digiday.com/media/disney-maker-studios
71jason
Well-Known Member
Talked to some friends in the business today (groundlings, no one near the level of a George K). Word from on high is that Disney Springs is absolutely slaughtering business at many of the locations above--Citricos and Jiko were mentioned specifically. Apparently guests would rather get better food from a celeb chef at those ridiculous prices, or get get better prices for comparable food from a celeb chef. It would seem Disney Springs is the new DAK, largely cannibalizing existing guests rather than bringing in new ones.
HauntedMansionFLA
Well-Known Member
Are evening extra magic hours coming back to DAK?