Which one? The childish comment by flynnibus or the alleged childish comment by WDWFigment?
Sorry, dude. You didn't "win."
Interesting. What field/market are you in?
its an excellent movie that has everything. from comedy, to action, to cute and sad things.
declaring "e-victory" in the internet is pretty pathetic btw.. D:
And now I'm all up on your lawn!!!
Seriously, tho--and I mean this for real discussion, not rhetorically--when did "lifestylers" become a thing? I don't think the idea existed in the 70s, did it? Is it strictly a post-Internet thing? I hate to think that the things I loved the most--EPCOT Center, the Adventurers Club--played a role in their creation, but it seems likely as well. Not sure how to document this, but I'm open to ideas.
As a side note, nothing on the internet "started" out of Twitter outside of sheer idiocy.
DVC members are usually clamoring for any new DVC resorts, not this time it seems. I'm sure Disney relies on this early push to buy points, and good word of mouth via sites like this one. It makes me wonder how all the other members that do not read these sites feel about the Poly. Does this mean Disney tripped themselves up on this one? And another thing to aggravate members. It's my understanding that DVC cannot sell to anyone living in the state of California. Either they haven't gotten the real estate purchasing thing settled yet, or did they just blow off Californians, thinking they'll but when it becomes legal to do so through the mails, over the phone. I for one am in California, and have gotten none of the sales material for the Poly that I read other members have gotten. It seems if I did want to add on to the Poly, I'd have to fly to Hawaii, or Florida to do so in person.Even the official (and moderated) DVC member website has mostly negative comments for the new Polynesian Villas & Bungalows (PVR) DVC.
Comments include:
"So at $160 per point, I would need $134,000.00 in order to buy the points to spend a week there during a 'low' season time? Slightly crazy in my opinion. I agree with many others when I say that I thought about adding on, but not now."
"I wish the new Polynesian Villas & Bungalows offered the traditional 1 and 2 bedroom villas. I will not be buying at this new resort. It's really disappointing. I wish the new studios had a king size bed. The maintenance fees are sky high."
"What a great deal, only $160 a point. In order to enjoy a good week, it will only cost you a cool $32,000. Disney is definitely getting a little greedy. No other significant benefits for members either, unless you like really long lines."
"It is apparent disney dropped he ball, I have been a member for 12 yrs. better off selling and pay cash for my vacation and not to Disney"
"wow unless you have a gazillion points you can't even stay in the bungalows. They seem impressive and yet unattainable for the average vacationer"
"I was excited and thinking about buying until I seen point chart. If i stayed here i would need a LOT of points."
"I had made several thoughtful comments that reflect our disappointment with the astronomical point values and disappointing queen-only studios, yet they never appeared here. Why?"
"I love Disney....always have, always will but the Points for Poly are very disappointing. Was going to add on but have changed my mind. Pity."
"Where is the price per point? Scared of the sticker shock? Points chart is a joke for the 2 bedroom. More availability for the Mouse to rent out nightly for really big bucks. Very sad day."
"That point chart is outrageous. I think Disney better get back to the basics. It was supposed to be an advantage to be a DVC owner. With all of the special packages and perks they offer to non - members they have taken away any reason to buy."
"Booo Disney Vacation Club!!! 160 points per night for one of the bungalows during the summer. Unreal! I can get a Savannah view room at the Animal Kingdom Lodge for 50 points per night during the same time frame."
"The rooms are sleeping more but there is less storage. Think about 5 suitcases and the stuff inside them, and you have one closet for all the clothes. Crazy!"
"I just don't get it. Overpriced. And only choices are studios & rooms on lake that you can't (and wouldn't want) to use? But, at least you can have ten-thousand lookie-loos floating by your bedroom door at all hours! I expect better from DVC."
There are more negative comments. Positive comments are few and far between. Again, this is on a site moderated by Disney.
Oh, I should mention that none of my comments made it onto the site. I wonder why?
More than any other DVC resort that has come before, PVR makes little financial sense. The primary reason to buy DVC is to save money over the long-term. With PVR's purchase price, annual Maintenance Fees, and points-per-night, it takes a very specific set of circumstances to achieve savings in anything approaching a reasonable amount of time.
If you:
Then a PVB purchase makes financial sense for you. Under these very specific circumstances, you should be able to reach the magical "break-even" point (the point at which PVB starts saving money) in about 10 years.
- Intend to vacation at WDW for decades and
- Absolutely love the Polynesian and can't imagine staying at any other Disney Deluxe Resort and
- Always vacation at times when Disney does not offer its frequent "Room Only" discounts and
- Have at least the $27,000 cash needed to make a purchase
Once you start deviating from these circumstances, your break-even point starts stretching into decades.
Rent points from an existing DVC member and the break-even stretches out to over 20 years.
Let's say you don't have the cash and can visit WDW when they offer "Room Only" discounts. In this case, 30 years of vacations at the Yacht & Beach Club will cost less than 30 years at PVB. That's a lot of vacations at one of WDW's more expensive Deluxe Resorts in order to start "saving" money.
Switch to one of WDW's less expensive Deluxe Resorts such as the Wilderness Lodge or the Animal Kingdom Lodge, or stay at a Moderate Resort instead, and you'll never reach the break-even point.
Disney is not expecting large numbers of top earners to buy at PVB. Instead, the vast majority of PVB sales will be to those of more modest means who fall for Disney's slick sales pitch and fuzzy math. The math to calculate the break-even is complicated, not something that can be done on the back of a napkin, so Disney is banking on "Guests" simply going along with the numbers Disney throws at them during the sales pitch.
As can be seen by the comments on the DVC member website, those who have been through this once before are not falling for it. Disney is banking on consumer ignorance and their misplaced trust in what's supposed to be one of America's most respected companies.
The ten thousand lookie loos floating by your door made me laugh out loud!Even the official (and moderated) DVC member website has mostly negative comments for the new Polynesian Villas & Bungalows (PVR) DVC.
Comments include:
"So at $160 per point, I would need $134,000.00 in order to buy the points to spend a week there during a 'low' season time? Slightly crazy in my opinion. I agree with many others when I say that I thought about adding on, but not now."
"I wish the new Polynesian Villas & Bungalows offered the traditional 1 and 2 bedroom villas. I will not be buying at this new resort. It's really disappointing. I wish the new studios had a king size bed. The maintenance fees are sky high."
"What a great deal, only $160 a point. In order to enjoy a good week, it will only cost you a cool $32,000. Disney is definitely getting a little greedy. No other significant benefits for members either, unless you like really long lines."
"It is apparent disney dropped he ball, I have been a member for 12 yrs. better off selling and pay cash for my vacation and not to Disney"
"wow unless you have a gazillion points you can't even stay in the bungalows. They seem impressive and yet unattainable for the average vacationer"
"I was excited and thinking about buying until I seen point chart. If i stayed here i would need a LOT of points."
"I had made several thoughtful comments that reflect our disappointment with the astronomical point values and disappointing queen-only studios, yet they never appeared here. Why?"
"I love Disney....always have, always will but the Points for Poly are very disappointing. Was going to add on but have changed my mind. Pity."
"Where is the price per point? Scared of the sticker shock? Points chart is a joke for the 2 bedroom. More availability for the Mouse to rent out nightly for really big bucks. Very sad day."
"That point chart is outrageous. I think Disney better get back to the basics. It was supposed to be an advantage to be a DVC owner. With all of the special packages and perks they offer to non - members they have taken away any reason to buy."
"Booo Disney Vacation Club!!! 160 points per night for one of the bungalows during the summer. Unreal! I can get a Savannah view room at the Animal Kingdom Lodge for 50 points per night during the same time frame."
"The rooms are sleeping more but there is less storage. Think about 5 suitcases and the stuff inside them, and you have one closet for all the clothes. Crazy!"
"I just don't get it. Overpriced. And only choices are studios & rooms on lake that you can't (and wouldn't want) to use? But, at least you can have ten-thousand lookie-loos floating by your bedroom door at all hours! I expect better from DVC."
There are more negative comments. Positive comments are few and far between. Again, this is on a site moderated by Disney.
Oh, I should mention that none of my comments made it onto the site. I wonder why?
More than any other DVC resort that has come before, PVR makes little financial sense. The primary reason to buy DVC is to save money over the long-term. With PVR's purchase price, annual Maintenance Fees, and points-per-night, it takes a very specific set of circumstances to achieve savings in anything approaching a reasonable amount of time.
If you:
Then a PVB purchase makes financial sense for you. Under these very specific circumstances, you should be able to reach the magical "break-even" point (the point at which PVB starts saving money) in about 10 years.
- Intend to vacation at WDW for decades and
- Absolutely love the Polynesian and can't imagine staying at any other Disney Deluxe Resort and
- Always vacation at times when Disney does not offer its frequent "Room Only" discounts and
- Have at least the $27,000 cash needed to make a purchase
Once you start deviating from these circumstances, your break-even point starts stretching into decades.
Rent points from an existing DVC member and the break-even stretches out to over 20 years.
Let's say you don't have the cash and can visit WDW when they offer "Room Only" discounts. In this case, 30 years of vacations at the Yacht & Beach Club will cost less than 30 years at PVB. That's a lot of vacations at one of WDW's more expensive Deluxe Resorts in order to start "saving" money.
Switch to one of WDW's less expensive Deluxe Resorts such as the Wilderness Lodge or the Animal Kingdom Lodge, or stay at a Moderate Resort instead, and you'll never reach the break-even point.
Disney is not expecting large numbers of top earners to buy at PVB. Instead, the vast majority of PVB sales will be to those of more modest means who fall for Disney's slick sales pitch and fuzzy math. The math to calculate the break-even is complicated, not something that can be done on the back of a napkin, so Disney is banking on "Guests" simply going along with the numbers Disney throws at them during the sales pitch.
As can be seen by the comments on the DVC member website, those who have been through this once before are not falling for it. Disney is banking on consumer ignorance and their misplaced trust in what's supposed to be one of America's most respected companies.
I hope you are enjoying the Animal Kingdom Lodge!
