A Lingering Question

[J03Y]

Do you have any idea of the history of It's a Small World? I assume the answer is no.

the entire ride is a boat. and in every room is a bunch of dolls singing a never-ending loop in different languages. if that doesn't scream "HEY LITTLE KIDS! COME TO THIS ATTRACTION!" then i don't know what does.

and i'm not stupid. i know what Small World was for. that has nothing to do with whether or not it's a children-oriented ride or not.

 

[xdan0920]

the entire ride is a boat. and in every room is a bunch of dolls singing a never-ending loop in different languages. if that doesn't scream "HEY LITTLE KIDS! COME TO THIS ATTRACTION!" then i don't know what does.

and i'm not stupid. i know what Small World was for. that has nothing to do with whether or not it's a children-oriented ride or not.

So, you do know the history? Because, it seems like you don't.

 

[real mad hatter]

War Of The Worlds!

Wow, what a lot of irritated posts. Relax people, it's just a Disney site.

What the h... is going on here,fully agree with Empress Lilly,this is a Disney site.:shrug:Hope that new bloggers don't think that this is the norm.

 

[J03Y]

So, you do know the history? Because, it seems like you don't.

it was made for the New York World Fair in 1964.

HAPPY?

 

[xdan0920]

it was made for the New York World Fair in 1964.

HAPPY?

Yes. I am happy. Thanks. But not because you have proved you can use google.

Arguing with you is pointless. You think WDW is there to keep kids occupied. I am bowing out of this thread.

 

[lazyboy97o]

and the initial purpose for Disney is to aim at adults?

first and foremost, Disney is for kids. now, i never said there weren't other things adults could do.

you're being obtuse about this. who ever said that a gentle kids ride was supposed to satisfy an adult? it doesn't, not the average one at least. the reason rides like Small World, Peter Pan's Flight and even Journey into Imagination even exist is to satisfy kids. NOT people over 11 years old. that's just the way it is. denying it doesn't make it any less true.

You are flat out wrong on this. You will not find anything from those involved in the creation of Disneyland or Walt Disney World to support your opinion. Nor will contemporary reports support your opinion.

Disneyland awed adults. National Geographic even once joked that "Maybe one day there will be a Disneyland for kids."

The 1964-1965 New York World's Fair was not at all aimed at children, but the Disney attractions were the most popular. The kiddie rides and amusement park stuff was off to the side, and included nothing from Disney.

The reason people think you do not know your history is because the history undeniably says the opposite of what you claim. It may be your opinion, but it is not one supported by the widely available evidence.

 

[J03Y]

You are flat out wrong on this. You will not find anything from those involved in the creation of Disneyland or Walt Disney World to support your opinion. Nor will contemporary reports support your opinion.

Disneyland awed adults. National Geographic even once joked that "Maybe one day there will be a Disneyland for kids."

The 1964-1965 New York World's Fair was not at all aimed at children, but the Disney attractions were the most popular. The kiddie rides and amusement park stuff was off to the side, and included nothing from Disney.

The reason people think you do not know your history is because the history undeniably says the opposite of what you claim. It may be your opinion, but it is not one supported by the widely available evidence.

just because Small World was showcased at a World Fair for UNICEF doesn't make it an adult ride. it just makes a ride that was showcased at a World Fair.

so you're telling me a boat ride with singing dolls just coincidentally attracts a large younger audience? that a park with castles and princesses and Disney cartoons just so happens to attract a large audience of 5 year olds?

just because there are things for adults and teenagers to do doesn't mean Disney World isn't aimed to attract kids primarily. that's not an opinion, that's an observation of what i see. :brick:

 

[J03Y]

Yes. I am happy. Thanks. But not because you have proved you can use google.

Arguing with you is pointless. You think WDW is there to keep kids occupied. I am bowing out of this thread.

i "think" WDW is there to keep everyone occupied. it's a kid's wonderland with things to keep the adults happy.

and prove that i googled that, exactly. have you ever heard of grandparents telling you stories? you learn a lot of things about past decades like that :brick:

 

[misterID]

:lookaroun Sometimes you do come up with some damn impressive posts and this is one of them.

Folks, some (and please read that word again) of the negative posters are taking 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand accounts of what's going on in WDW. Let's also remember that just because it's "not the way it used to be" doesn't mean it's worse.......that is your opinion and/or perception.

For example, the constant clamoring around here for the old attractions is a waste of time. Furthermore, those attractions are not necessarily better than the replacements. They were replaced for a reason yes? If they were so damn good, why were they replaced?

Yeah... right... Anyway, you know that people who are getting information are getting it 4th hand.... How exactly? And by who.

A lot Jimmyisms going on in with a few posters...

 

[marni1971]

i "think" WDW is there to keep everyone occupied. it's a kid's wonderland with things to keep the adults happy.

and prove that i googled that, exactly. have you ever heard of grandparents telling you stories? you learn a lot of things about past decades like that :brick:

Children of ALL ages.

....and breathe out...

 

[wm49rs]

Children of ALL ages.

....and breathe out...

Careful sir, you may be accused of being one of those getting their information 3rd-, 4th-, or 5th-hand from some random bus driver....

 

[lazyboy97o]

just because Small World was showcased at a World Fair for UNICEF doesn't make it an adult ride. it just makes a ride that was showcased at a World Fair.

so you're telling me a boat ride with singing dolls just coincidentally attracts a large younger audience? that a park with castles and princesses and Disney cartoons just so happens to attract a large audience of 5 year olds?

just because there are things for adults and teenagers to do doesn't mean Disney World isn't aimed to attract kids primarily. that's not an opinion, that's an observation of what i see. :brick:

They are not dolls, they are children. The whole point of the attraction is children of the world showing adults of the world, who were attending the Fair, that "there's so much that we share." Its presence at the Fair is important because that was the audience for which the attraction was created.

What you observe, Disney as a kiddie wonderland, is a big part of the criticisms as that is not at all what Disney himself or those working with him were trying to build, and very much what they sought to avoid. Pleasing children is easy.

 

[J03Y]

Children of ALL ages.

....and breathe out...

i never said there wasn't something for all ages.

why do i find that i'm repeating myself? :brick:

 

[marni1971]

i never said there wasn't something for all ages.

why do i find that i'm repeating myself? :brick:

You missed the point.

But I'm still breathing out.

 

[J03Y]

They are not dolls, they are children. The whole point of the attraction is children of the world showing adults of the world, who were attending the Fair, that "there's so much that we share." Its presence at the Fair is important because that was the audience for which the attraction was created.

What you observe, Disney as a kiddie wonderland, is a big part of the criticisms as that is not at all what Disney himself or those working with him were trying to build, and very much what they sought to avoid. Pleasing children is easy.

and small children understand the difference between dolls and children when the example is presented as such. while their minds are developed enough to understand the story behind the Haunted Mansion, they're still going to see a doll and automatically think "dolly!" not "a child from another country!"

the ride appeals to kids because of the dolls and mainly adults (and adults on average) don't go because the dolls represent the children of the world.

you're saying this as if the guests who go are going to have a deep and meaningful experience. no. they are going to let their kids have fun and stuff. at least the average guest. WE aren't the average guests, so WE go for a deeper experience.

 

[slappy magoo]

I remember as a teen seeing two classmates come to blows discussing "Van Halen vs. Van Hagar."
Until that day, that was the silliest argument I ever witnessed in any form - verbal, written, live, broadcast - ever.

So, congratulations to all involved. You're now in the lead by a country mile and I'm far too old to witness many more moments like these. This is the record I think will stick. Kudos. :wave:

 

[J03Y]

You missed the point.

But I'm still breathing out.

well clarify your point then. i never said that it wasn't a park also for other ages. i just said that it's PRIMARILY for kids. but it also includes things for people out of elementary school. never anywhere did i say otherwise.

 

[xdan0920]

i "think" WDW is there to keep everyone occupied. it's a kid's wonderland with things to keep the adults happy.

and prove that i googled that, exactly. have you ever heard of grandparents telling you stories? you learn a lot of things about past decades like that :brick:

the rides are meant to keep the kids occupied. that's what the Magic Kingdom is. to keep the kids occupied, and maybe squeeze in a few things for the adults to enjoy while their kids were running around going crazy on Dumbo.

Interesting.

 

[marni1971]

well clarify your point then. i never said that it wasn't a park also for other ages. i just said that it's PRIMARILY for kids. but it also includes things for people out of elementary school. never anywhere did i say otherwise.

No point. If you don't get it by now then nothing I say will help.

 

[J03Y]

No point. If you don't get it by now then nothing I say will help.

i'm not some dim-witted brain-dead idiot. i take constructive criticism when people aren't being d-bags and just arguing with me because they simply disagree with what i'm saying and take it way further than it needs to be.