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A Lingering Question
- Thread starter WED Purist
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the-reason14
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I think some people don't realize that WDW is no longer one park or two parks, but four with a variety of different things to maintain. It's not as easy as it once was to keep up. That's not an excuse for it to fall to pieces, but it's something to take into consideration. Personally I have no problem hearing about issues here and there, as long as people aren't bashing things to the max with no room for any positivity. Some posters bash disney left and right, almost as if someone personally came in their home and held them at gunpoint, robbed them and violated them. These are the same people booking trips and going every year, or every other year, or every other other year. Doesn't matter, they still go and it's counterproductive to their whines. It's not the 1970s anymore, and if most people here put as much effort as they do whining and complaining into building a time machine, then they could go back in time and relive those golden days.
lazyboy97o
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Except that these criticisms are not just comparing now to memories. There are some objective metrics on which people can be informed, such as the once proud tradition of tracking lightbulb usage being abandoned to the point where the trim lighting of the flagship resort having not a few burnt out bulbs, but entire chunks burnt out. Or how it used to be that Walt Disney World's profitability was measured on the whole, and not every square foot is measured. How there used to be shops there for their experience, not their aim at trying to increase numbers.
There is also the comparison between the other Resorts which confirm to people that their memories are not just rose colored. That Disneyland Resort and Hong Kong Disneyland Resort are still living up to much of this legacy. Then there is Tokyo Disney Resort which continues to survive financially while, by all accounts, being the very epitome of what Disney always sought to be with its theme park experiences.
As misterID pointed out, there are also people within the themed entertainment industry, not just Imagineers but also ex-Imagineers, who have criticisms of Disney and Walt Disney World. Even right here on WDWMagic you can go read the Eddie Sotto threads.
So yes, you could just dismiss it as the fallibility of memory, but to do so you must ignore quite a bit.
Jimmy Thick
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threeyoda
Active Member
So someone who doesn't agree with your opinion is a troll? That's what I don't like about these boards, if you post something that's different from someones else's opinion, you get called a troll or get told that your wrong.
Florida_is_hot
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Just how do you know anything about Walt Disney did you have coffee with him in the 60s?
Me I think like everybody else Walt Disney is or was human, he must of had bad moods and been negative ay times like every other human on the planet.
Me I think like everybody else Walt Disney is or was human, he must of had bad moods and been negative ay times like every other human on the planet.
Sans Souci
Well-Known Member
Kinda like when you voice your displeasure with WDW you're told you're a hater, you're negative or your experience isn't based in reality.
The street runs both ways...
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
But if you go to WDW with the intention to spend time with loved ones and have fun enjoying the Disney experience, just what really is there to complain about?
Jimmy Thick-I'll take the street to Main St USA!!!
misterID
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I've been around old Jimmy for a while... And to tell you the truth, you could be one of his usernames/personalities for all I know. :animwink:
misterID
Well-Known Member
Isn't it ironic... Don't yah think?
erasure fan1
Well-Known Member
I agree. It seems to me that no matter what you say either you are labeled a pixie dust snorter or a doom & gloomer. I think some people take it too far on both sides. There are some people who seem to be negative just for the sake of being negative. On the other side, there are plenty of comments about how there are zero issues and not a single issue that needs attention.
Sharkreef11
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Everyone did a good job summing everything up. I just think that some people by nature are just whiners and have nothing better to do with themselves. They claim they enjoy the parks and are part of the forums and yet seem to be complaining all the time. I am sure it is no coincidence but controversy probably follows them wherever they go.
Sans Souci
Well-Known Member
Confirmation bias--gotta love it.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I am literally choking on the hypocrisy.
And what does this make you? You are whining about the whiners.
mergatroid
Well-Known Member
I think that some posters go out of their way to only post negative comments for some strange reason?
That's not to say that negative aspects shouldn't come up in the course of discussions and debate but a minority of individuals only contribute in this manner which is quite extraordinary. It's like watching a parent criticise their child when they make a mistake but never compliment them on anything positive they do and then claim they do it because they love them. Surely if you love someone or something, there's room to show appreciation as well as criticism from time to time :shrug:
That's not to say that negative aspects shouldn't come up in the course of discussions and debate but a minority of individuals only contribute in this manner which is quite extraordinary. It's like watching a parent criticise their child when they make a mistake but never compliment them on anything positive they do and then claim they do it because they love them. Surely if you love someone or something, there's room to show appreciation as well as criticism from time to time :shrug:
J03Y
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i agree, WED Purist. there's way too much negativity aimed at WDW by their own obsessors.
and yes, i understand that you all think that it "could do better", but just because you don't like it doesn't make it horrible overall. there are other generations that like what's new. the parks were made to satisfy children, not the old fans of the parks from the 50s to the 80s. and children come, children go. people grow and kids' desires and interests change over time.
to quote Aslan: "nothing ever happens the same twice." the same goes for WDW. things can't stay the same and satisfy everyone at the same time. guests change, and the parks must as well.
and yes, i understand that you all think that it "could do better", but just because you don't like it doesn't make it horrible overall. there are other generations that like what's new. the parks were made to satisfy children, not the old fans of the parks from the 50s to the 80s. and children come, children go. people grow and kids' desires and interests change over time.
to quote Aslan: "nothing ever happens the same twice." the same goes for WDW. things can't stay the same and satisfy everyone at the same time. guests change, and the parks must as well.
The Empress Lilly
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Wow, what a lot of irritated posts. Relax people, it's just a Disney site.
lazyboy97o
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I personally would rather spend time looking at and discussing what is wrong or at least debatable with not just Walt Disney World, but most everything. I know what is good and so do most people who agree that this (whatever it may be) is something special. What is gained by just focusing on what already works aside from over-inflating the positive?
From the interviews and biographies I have read I have always gotten the impression that Walt Disney took a rather similar attitude. When you did something wrong, he was supposedly quite vocal. If you did something right little would be said. It may not be the most personable approach, but I think it is a valid one.
From the interviews and biographies I have read I have always gotten the impression that Walt Disney took a rather similar attitude. When you did something wrong, he was supposedly quite vocal. If you did something right little would be said. It may not be the most personable approach, but I think it is a valid one.
GLaDOS
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"You're dead if you aim only for kids." - Some guy named Walt Disney
J03Y
Well-Known Member
and the initial purpose for Disney is to aim at adults?
first and foremost, Disney is for kids. now, i never said there weren't other things adults could do.
you're being obtuse about this. who ever said that a gentle kids ride was supposed to satisfy an adult? it doesn't, not the average one at least. the reason rides like Small World, Peter Pan's Flight and even Journey into Imagination even exist is to satisfy kids. NOT people over 11 years old. that's just the way it is. denying it doesn't make it any less true.