Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[celluloid]

I say if death toll hits 200 in a day this week...its shutdown.

It makes sense. Most school boards in the state of Florida are announcing things this week in terms of delaying the school year or deciding to do virtual only. If this occurs, than you can be sure Disney will have little choice.

 

[Polkadotdress]

It makes sense. Most school boards in the state of Florida are announcing things this week in terms of delaying the school year or deciding to do virtual only. If this occurs, than you can be sure Disney will have little choice.

Osceola Cty, adjacent to WDW, has already announced school will be in session that fall, starting in 8/24 (a 2 week delay). For those not comfortable going in-person, online is also an option.

 

[legwand77]

Well those are answered I figured by the title of the thread, difficult I know since it things frequently fear into attacks or off topic. If rumors of closing down by some point in August again are true, these big decisions have to have discussions to prep the possiblity with communication soon. It could all be scuttle, I was just asking to see if anyone heard anything similar.

They will not be closing down in August, maybe reduced hours if anything, due to lack of visitors. If anything I think the raise capacity limits for APs. Also local APs will be able to go as the blackout date is lifted.

 

[celluloid]

Osceola Cty, adjacent to WDW, has already announced school will be in session that fall, starting in 8/24 (a 2 week delay). For those not comfortable going in-person, online is also an option.

I am aware of that because I have some little ones in the school system. In those two weeks we will have a somewhat better idea, but I speak of the bigger decisions this week. There is further delay talk if it gets worse this week or outright making online and daycare an option. If nothing else, the teachers definitely need that time because they have had a lot piled up on them with the hybrid model they are speaking of where a classroom is streamed.

The State board of pediatritions for Florida has said they do not recocmend school begin until the positivity rate results are at a 3-5 percent. They have currently been at 14 percent for reference.

 

[celluloid]

They will not be closing down in August, maybe reduced hours if anything, due to lack of visitors. If anything I think the raise capacity limits for APs. Also local APs will be able to go as the blackout date is lifted.

Anything is fair game. We live in a world where the parks shut down for months and in some cases still are. The phase they are in right now with fixed costs elsewhere not making money, even with AP allowances increased would not be enough. On average, they don't spend large revenue in the park on food and merch You can't really decrease operating hours much more. The majority of your full time employees need to keep 32 hours a week. The best they can do, my prediction would be to lift the park hopping block, presuming things remain the same or get better.
If schools delay or close, they are not going to stay open to lose more money and look terrible or be terrible if things raise fast with guests or staff.

 

[legwand77]

Osceola Cty, adjacent to WDW, has already announced school will be in session that fall, starting in 8/24 (a 2 week delay). For those not comfortable going in-person, online is also an option.

Same with Orange county, this was annouced last Tuesday, maybe the rumor was for last Tuesday

 

[Thelazer]

They could lift comp tickets and passes and that would start to fill the parks up.

 

[legwand77]

I am aware of that because I have some little ones in the school system. In those two weeks we will have a somewhat better idea, but I speak of the bigger decisions this week. There is further delay talk if it gets worse this week or outright making online and daycare an option. If nothing else, the teachers definitely need that time because they have had a lot piled up on them with the hybrid model they are speaking of where a classroom is streamed.

The State board of pediatritions for Florida has said they do not recocmend school begin until the positivity rate results are at a 3-5 percent. They have currently been at 14 percent for reference.

Orange county is at 9% and trending down

 

[celluloid]

Same with Orange county, this was annouced last Tuesday, maybe the rumor was for last Tuesday

It was Seminole county who delayed one week first. Either way, I would expect some communication by Tuesday to be present based on what I am hearing. It was spoken as if the meeting did not happen yet.

 

[celluloid]

Orange county is at 9% and trending down

That is good news, but still nearly double the 3-5 and on the lower end from what I have seen county wise in the large state that Florida is. The Theme parks can't surive well on just Florida alone just as they cannot survive on just half of the counties feeling comfortable about visiting. Other schoolboards will also feel pressure form the ones that make the larger decisions. Maybe it will continue to lower by the time it opens. At least the extra weeks will have more info than we did before. I definitely listen to the pediatritions.

 

[Quackers5000]

You can't really decrease operating hours much more. The majority of your full time employees need to keep 32 hours a week.
If schools delay or close, they are not going to stay open to lose more money and look terrible or be terrible if things raise fast with guests or staff.

Opening certain parks on certain days or cutting daily operating hours even more sounds just like a massive logistical nightmare anyway you cut it. I don’t know if they’ll actually close back down, but their options are rather limited if it is a money saving issue outside of the situation in FL. I suspect it’s going to be tough for awhile for the tourist industry in FL, people aren’t exactly running there now and this would be peak season if it were a normal time of year for the entire state.

 

[celluloid]

Opening certain parks on certain days or cutting daily operating hours even more sounds just like a massive logistical nightmare anyway you cut it. I don’t know if they’ll actually close back down, but their options are rather limited if it is a money saving issue outside of the situation in FL. I suspect it’s going to be tough for awhile for the tourist industry in FL, people aren’t exactly running there now and this would be peak season if it were a normal time of year for the entire state.

They also do not have the support of California or Cruise Lines right now to help when things are bad in another venue like they normally would. Add Hong Kong closed again to the mix and they are really just in financial adversity to say the least.

 

[Polkadotdress]

I am aware of that because I have some little ones in the school system. In those two weeks we will have a somewhat better idea, but I speak of the bigger decisions this week. There is further delay talk if it gets worse this week or outright making online and daycare an option. If nothing else, the teachers definitely need that time because they have had a lot piled up on them with the hybrid model they are speaking of where a classroom is streamed.

The State board of pediatritions for Florida has said they do not recocmend school begin until the positivity rate results are at a 3-5 percent. They have currently been at 14 percent for reference.

I don’t know...did you listen in on the school board meeting where they discussed delaying the school start date? Teachers don’t want the date to slide any more, as it causes them to be without pay longer. And, one of the school board members was adamant that school start in the fall, no matter what.

 

[celluloid]

I don’t know...did you listen in on the school board meeting where they discussed delaying the school start date? Teachers don’t want the date to slide any more, as it causes them to be without pay longer. And, one of the school board members was adamant that school start in the fall, no matter what.

That is one schoolboard, representing the schoolboard, and perhaps some teachers. But schoolboards make choices against the teachers all the time. There are many other schoolboard meetings going through with teachers pleading the opposite, although I believe Osceola has done a decent job. I am not saying specifically osceola. There are counties with much higer percentages.

 

[legwand77]

IMHO Lets not get sidetrack in a schools debate here, we have a hard enough time staying on topic as it is.

 

[celluloid]

IMHO Lets not get sidetrack in a schools debate here, we have a hard enough time staying on topic as it is.

It was not a debate as I saw it. It was pointing out the connection. If schools have trouble opening with numbers that make most not feel good about it, you can bet that relates to WDW closing up again.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Um, that cases are continuously hammered by the media and they aren't super important if other metrics are trending downward and you consider the testing environment is different today than 3 months ago?

"Record cases" has a good media ring, but requires deeper analysis.

No one is "minimizing" the effect of the virus. We are trying not to be irrational and maintain some objectivity and perspective. This is not even close to the #1 risk to public health. This really sucks. I'm not one to say it doesn't, but life will go on and has to. Wear a mask, take precautions and live your life.

The problem now is people refusing to wear masks correctly or at all. If they did, this virus probably wouldn't even be a major story anymore. That is unfortunate.

So sick of hearing people saying other metrics are down. Logically and obviously, that’s temporary. You don’t die the day after you get the virus. There is time from infection to symptoms, symptoms to diagnosis, diagnosis to hospitalization, and hospitalization to death.

So if the numbers had previously been trending down, and then cases shoot up, the rest are coming, that’s irrefutable, and there is no point citing later stages being lower for a minute.

The only possible variable is they are learning how to treat it better, so you may end up with a lower death percentage.

The downside is even asymptomatic people are showing lung damage and other issues.

 

[Polkadotdress]

IMHO Lets not get sidetrack in a schools debate here, we have a hard enough time staying on topic as it is.

If schools do not open then WDW will be adversely effected since so many Cast Members will be thrust in an untenable position of having to balance school-aged children being home while learning, while also juggling maintaining their job at WDW.

 

[Lilofan]

If schools do not open then WDW will be adversely effected since so many Cast Members will be thrust in an untenable position of having to balance school-aged children being home while learning, while also juggling maintaining their job at WDW.

True however that's what parents have to deal when school is not in session and parents have day jobs.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

If schools do not open then WDW will be adversely effected since so many Cast Members will be thrust in an untenable position of having to balance school-aged children being home while learning, while also juggling maintaining their job at WDW.

So what are they doing now?