Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[Miss Bella]

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[lazyboy97o]

This is why I won't get tested unless I have symptoms.

I was tested three weeks ago to answer your question. I promise if I start hacking and sneezing I‘ll stay home.

Which is it?

 

[October82]

Miami and southern Florida is out of control. Orlando area is in good shape!!

Among other things, the concern is that Orange County is still under testing by a significant amount.

 

[Miss Bella]

Which is it?

I had a sore throat three weeks ago. Tested negative. Does that answer your question. Don't you have someone else to bully.

 

[Prince-1]

Which is it?

Well played!!

 

[legwand77]

Wrong.

Guess you haven't been paying attention lately, actual deaths that occurred per day from or with Covid have not exceeded or hit 100 or so ever in the state of Florida. That might change, hope it doesn't, but that is a fact. It is well documented on the Florida DOH site.

 

[October82]

Guess you haven't been paying attention lately, actual deaths that occurred per day from or with Covid have not exceeded or hit 100 or so ever in the state of Florida. That might change, hope it doesn't, but that is a fact. It is well documented on the Florida DOH site.

The current 7-day average number of deaths per day in Florida is 100. The number of deaths exceeded 100 on July 9th and from July 14-17. Keep in mind that these are undercounts, it takes several weeks for reliable death counts to be produced even under normal circumstances.

 

[Miss Bella]

So now some have gone to berating a healthcare provider that actually works with covid patients, and accusing them of downplaying the virus, which has not been the case. Posting the latest death totals and cases or whatever stats and saying things are bad are fine, those are all valid opinions, but this is unnecessary.

Its the same posters that have berated me on the political boards. At the heart of all this it probably has more to my ideological views then anything else. People need to understand healthcare workers are not collective thinkers. We have opinions all over the map.

 

[legwand77]

The current 7-day average number of deaths per day in Florida is 100. The number of deaths exceeded 100 on July 9th and from July 14-17. Keep in mind that these are undercounts, it takes several weeks for reliable death counts to be produced even under normal circumstances.

I am guessing you know the difference between reported deaths and actual death per day since you stated that in your last sentence.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Hopefully you never get sick.

Hopefully not, I have asthma and my spouse is type I diabetic. We’ll need someone to take care of the dog while we’re in mass graves waiting for proper burial.

 

[DisneyCane]

If the sentinel monitoring data of ER visits is representative, I'd expect the case counts to come down a little over the next few days. The ED visit metrics have been dropping (even in Miami-Dade) in the past few days and a lot of the test results are delayed several days. A lot of yesterday's cases were tested early in the week so the tests from the days of the metric improvement will come in probably starting mid week.

 

[legwand77]

The current 7-day average number of deaths per day in Florida is 100. The number of deaths exceeded 100 on July 9th and from July 14-17. Keep in mind that these are undercounts, it takes several weeks for reliable death counts to be produced even under normal circumstances.

To clarify even more you are stating the current deaths reported by day is 7 day rolling at 100.

The actual death by day rolling 7 day is has never gone above 80 and is been flat for a week, at least up till when the data is current, reliable death counts

for the "Source?" people -

https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=230270972343459a812a1ae8c28574a6&sublayer=0&view=list&sortOrder=true&sortField=defaultFSOrder#data

 

[Miss Bella]

Hopefully not, I have asthma and my spouse is type I diabetic. We’ll need someone to take care of the dog while we’re in mass graves waiting for proper burial.

Well that’s morbid LOL. Stay safe.

 

[legwand77]

If the sentinel monitoring data of ER visits is representative, I'd expect the case counts to come down a little over the next few days. The ED visit metrics have been dropping (even in Miami-Dade) in the past few days and a lot of the test results are delayed several days. A lot of yesterday's cases were tested early in the week so the tests from the days of the metric improvement will come in probably starting mid week.

agree and that with the serology test increasing in positivity, good indicators

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

How is any of this relevant to the thread topic?

 

[October82]

To clarify even more you are stating the current deaths reported by day is 7 day rolling at 100.

The actual death by day rolling 7 day is has never gone above 80 and is been flat for a week, at least up till when the data is current, reliable death counts

for the "Source?" people -

https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=230270972343459a812a1ae8c28574a6&sublayer=0&view=list&sortOrder=true&sortField=defaultFSOrder#data

 

[October82]

OK I see that you do not understand, I gave you the link and everything

Note the title of the graph you posted. Then reread my post.

I think this exchange speaks for itself. I'd invite anyone interested in it to do as you suggest, examine the data that has been presented and ask questions about it if you feel there are concerns or places where things are unclear.

There are concerns about underreporting, but it is clear that the number of deaths in Florida due to covid-19 over the last week has averaged 100 a day, going above 100 on several days. It is likely that the most recent days will be updated to also be above 100 once all of the numbers have been reported.

The bigger question is why this is viewed as debatable. We are looking at data, not opinion pieces. If there is a discrepancy in the data, it is due to some fact about the methodology. We can talk more about it, but what is notable here is that there is a consistent pattern of trying to present only the lowest case numbers available, regardless of the quality of that data, when other reliable datasets indicate a different picture. This exchange was prompted by another poster pointing out that the average daily number of deaths due to Covid is above 100 in Florida. That was a factual statement.

 

[legwand77]

Bringing it back to when people were using AZ and TX rise in hospitalizations as a bellweather for Florida and Disney closing, Today those states have continued to decrease in number of covid patients , the trend is continues. Hope Florida follows suite as they were running about a week or so behind those states.

 

[legwand77]

I think this exchange speaks for itself. I'd invite anyone interested in it to do as you suggest, examine the data that has been presented and ask questions about it if you feel there are concerns or places where things are unclear.

There are concerns about underreporting, but it is clear that the number of deaths in Florida due to covid-19 over the last week has averaged 100 a day, going above 100 on several days. It is likely that the most recent days will be updated to also be above 100 once all of the numbers have been reported.

The bigger question is why this is viewed as debatable. We are looking at data, not opinion pieces. If there is a discrepancy in the data, it is due to some fact about the methodology. We can talk more about it, but what is notable here is that there is a consistent pattern of trying to present only the lowest case numbers available, regardless of the quality of that data, when other reliable datasets indicate a different picture. This exchange was prompted by another poster pointing out that the average daily number of deaths due to Covid is above 100 in Florida. That was a factual statement.

Yes the exchange does speak for itself. Now you are going back to opinions and theories. There is not a single day were actual deaths that happened that day (not when reported) have gone over 100 at this time. That is an absolute fact. There is currently no data that shows day of death is at 100 or over.

The under reporting is a theory and a concern, but so is overcounting, with Covids etc. but that is not point. The rest is just your opinion and creating some agenda about whatever.

Like I said, the factual statement is the average "reported" daily number of deaths due to Covid is above 100 in Florida. The actual people that die that day is less than that and has never gone above or near 100.

Are you saying that is not true?

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Bringing it back to when people were using AZ and TX rise in hospitalizations as a bellweather for Florida and Disney closing, Those sates have continued to decrease in number of covid patients , the trend is continues. Hope Florida follows suite as the were running about a week or so behind those states.

These two states are not improving much. Keep in mind standards for being admitted have changed, and the capacity to admit people has decreased.