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MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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MerlinTheGoat
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On a raw technical and design level, i'd pretty much agree. Though the programmed motion does have that "flail arms around randomly" thing going on that people have griped about (the Kylo Ren AA has this quirk as well).
They need to be able to create a spectrum of electrical AA's of different movement range so that they can fill out scenery again like they used to. Not just a dozen A1000s, but everything else look like they belong in Peter Pan's Flight and Snow White's Scary Adventures...
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doctornick
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To each there own, but I realize that Splash is gone and I totally accept that (but I do hope Tokyo keeps theirs forever even if I never visit that park). My main concern is that the company takes the feedback - good and bad really - and understands that and uses it in the future in terms of developing rides. And, quite frankly, I hope they realize that making changes for knee jerk reasons and being more concerned about optics over quality storytelling is not the best way to run a theme park or entertainment company in general.
Mr. Sullivan
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I don’t disagree on that front. I love the new attraction, but I certainly think there are lessons to be learned from it. If nothing else a more coherent approach to marketing and presenting what the attraction is to the public and not speaking in rich details until those details are completely decided upon.
Raineman
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It's been interesting in the last few days, in regards to online reactions to the video. Initially, it was almost all negative, but now the people who wanted the re theme all along either don't like it but will never admit it, or are on a pixie dust high and like it for their little princesses, are starting to post comments, and alot of them always involve the same rude, dismissive, passive-aggressive phrases that they have been spouting for years. " And I do agree that it will be busy for a while, and the majority of the people in the queue will be parents of young kids with the "BBB & princess meet and greet are the #1 priority for my little princess" mentality. I am just a bit nervous that WDI eyes are going to turn to HM soon, and if they start to mess with my favorite attraction other than maybe some sprucing up or very minor changes, I am done giving Disney my theme park $.
ChrisFL
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One thing someone else brought up on social media was the idea that for maintenance/upkeep costs they possibly wanted to keep the animatronics to certain areas for easier access. I would not doubt that at all, however, counterpoint is there is still a lot of decoration and theming throughout Splash that weren't necessarily animatronics but added to the experience.
Mr. Sullivan
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What is to say that TBA isn’t going to be just as popular? It isn’t open yet. The majority of people who’re going to get on it aren’t watching a YouTube POV just as they haven’r been following construction.
If it proves to be a flop with guests then I’ll be the first to admit it. But, and I’m genuinely asking, what are you all going to say if it does prove to be successful? What’s gonna be your argument then?
lightningtap347
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I think it'll be popular in that it's something to do and that a water ride in Florida will be popular.
I don't think this will move the needle of selling vacations, DVC, things like that. And I think that's a metric that could determine whether or not this was an immediate success.
I'd be interested to see how popular it will be (if it will be) in the cold season. This will greatly test exactly how popular the ride is, as when the water and cooling off isn't the main selling point you have to actively choose to ride it based on the other merits alone.
Mr. Sullivan
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I agree, that’ll be the test. We’re just not seeing it yet, so I guess what I’m really driving at to those who’re already declaring it a failure based on how they feel about it is we just have to wait and see. And if it proves to be a success, then what does the conversation become?
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Ayla
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That isn't a great metric, since Splash wasn't popular when it was cold, either. I remember plenty of 5 min waits posted on cooler days (keeping in mind it usually went down for its annual refurb for most of them).
FettFan
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*conducting an invisible band*
lightningtap347
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Sure - I think that's why if it exhibits extreme outlier behavior in terms of lines in seasons when it shouldn't have any it would provide good indication that it is overtly popular. If the line behavior acts like Splash entirely though, it's kinda a wash at that point.
I think they'll consider it a success if the line behaves the same just because they are able to move merchandise on an IP they want in the parks. The ride well have to drastically underperform/be outright rejected by everyone to truly be considered a failure, which I just don't see happening.
CaptinEO
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Unfortunately Disney doesn't really acknowledge failure. Lots of egos at play. Likely the creative team on this ride is doing a victory lap about how they made such great work.
They will likely attack and blame the fans rather than accept criticism.
It's been 5 years now and they haven't attempted to address Galaxy's Edge criticism.
Star Cruiser criticism during development and opening was also never acknowledged and they just were happy to operate it until it failed than address criticism.
It will take new leadership cycling through to make changes, as the egos of the creatives involved in these projects are fragile and they are all current employees.
Figments Friend
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Let us all join hands , and pray to the Tiki Gods that at the very least the Disneyland version of this Attraction will be the better version.
( Re-enacts the scene from the ‘Princess & The Frog’ film )
”Pleasepleasepleaseplease please PLEASE….!”
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( Re-enacts the scene from the ‘Princess & The Frog’ film )
”Pleasepleasepleaseplease please PLEASE….!”
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TheCoasterNerd
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I'm very glad reading this thread. I'm happy you all don't like it, and think the GP won't either. That means that during my July trip there shouldn't be long lines!! So glad that you hate the ride! Thank you for making it easier for me to ride this, IMO, amazing ride
Mr. Sullivan
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I definitely think Tokyo’s should change sometime in the future but honestly would love to see it be a different property. Not because I dislike Tiana, love her, but honestly I think TDL needs more of what the other international castle parks get a lot of which is something unique to specifically them.
Dranth
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Just wanted to chime in real quick and mention something that has been on my mind the last few days.
What I think many of us long term fans have to keep in mind is that each passing generation has different ideals and interests. I find a lot of those ideas borderline foreign to me. They make no sense and actively make things worse in my mind. Then I remember that I thought the same thing about generations before me and my parents thought the same thing about generations before them and so on and so on. Obviously no one group is a complete monolith but the general trend still stands.
I bring that up because the general theme park going public of today is a different makeup than it was 20 years ago and has different sensibilities. For example, a ride with no tension or stakes could be perfectly acceptable to many of the millennial and younger groups while Gen X and over will mostly find it boring.
All that to say that yes, the general public will likely really enjoy this and the group coming up that has little, or no memories of Slash will likely love it. I am also sure it will sell a lot of merch and make Disney a good bit of money.
As for TBA itself, this isn't the first time I've looked at something Disney has done and thought I'm just not the target audience anymore. I hope it is better in person but from the videos I have seen it looks boring and devoid of any real character or charm. I'm also not a fan of how disjointed it feels or the need to overexplain everything going on with dialog or signs. All that said, I still want to see it in person before making a final judgement but it hasn't made a good first impression.
What I think many of us long term fans have to keep in mind is that each passing generation has different ideals and interests. I find a lot of those ideas borderline foreign to me. They make no sense and actively make things worse in my mind. Then I remember that I thought the same thing about generations before me and my parents thought the same thing about generations before them and so on and so on. Obviously no one group is a complete monolith but the general trend still stands.
I bring that up because the general theme park going public of today is a different makeup than it was 20 years ago and has different sensibilities. For example, a ride with no tension or stakes could be perfectly acceptable to many of the millennial and younger groups while Gen X and over will mostly find it boring.
All that to say that yes, the general public will likely really enjoy this and the group coming up that has little, or no memories of Slash will likely love it. I am also sure it will sell a lot of merch and make Disney a good bit of money.
As for TBA itself, this isn't the first time I've looked at something Disney has done and thought I'm just not the target audience anymore. I hope it is better in person but from the videos I have seen it looks boring and devoid of any real character or charm. I'm also not a fan of how disjointed it feels or the need to overexplain everything going on with dialog or signs. All that said, I still want to see it in person before making a final judgement but it hasn't made a good first impression.
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