'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[BuddyThomas]

Moreover, there are pre-teen gay children for whom such representation is very important. The lack of it during my childhood certainly contributed to the years I spent in a state of closeted self-loathing.

If I saw Strange World when I was a kid, it definitely would have helped. My parents were classic southern homophobes (I grew up in Florida). It also would have helped my brother, who, as I have previously posted, was gay, and who committed suicide when my father disowned him when he came out. I never spoke to anyone from my immediate family after that happened. So yeah, I have very strong feelings about this. Those on here crying about a less than five minute scene where there is a gay crush need to calm down and look within.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I’m going to go out in a limb and say the two women kissing and getting pregnant.

That isn’t what happened. Did you see it?

 

[mickEblu]

If you think I was apologizing for anything, you should possibly reconsider.

Here I was thinking you were being nice for once.

 

[mickEblu]

That isn’t what happened. Did you see it?

Yes I did. Are we both talking about Lightyear?

 

[BuddyThomas]

Here I was thinking you were being nice for once.

I’m nice to nice people.

 

[mickEblu]

I’m nice to nice people.

So you don’t think I’m nice?

 

[BuddyThomas]

Yes I did. Are we both talking about Lightyear?

They didn’t “kiss and get pregnant”.

 

[mickEblu]

They didn’t “kiss and get pregnant”.

They kissed AND one of the women is shown to be a pregnant (with a big belly) during a montage. Did you watch the movie?

 

[LittleBuford]

That isn’t what happened. Did you see it?

He’s referring to the lesbian relationship in Lightyear, which is indeed portrayed but really has no bearing on the storyline. However, as with Strange World, we’re supposed to believe that a brief representation of queerness defines an entire film and constitutes an “agenda” that straight people can’t handle.

 

[TwilightZone]

If a production dares to show a traditional nuclear family with the parents still married, the husband/father is relegated to a bumbling fool, if not someone to just be pitied and made fun of openly.

The simpsons been doing it since the 80s

Also there's still a lot of examples of strong male parental figures in media. Most of the bumbling type is usually relegated to comedies, where bumblingness is expected.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Can you specify what you consider “progressive” about the actual storyline of Lightyear?

I did not say the storyline was progressive in Lightyear, I said it had 'progressive flair'. Which I think is a fitting description of what it is- a mostly standard and unremarkable film that has some stuff that would be considered progressive.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Most of the direct-to-D+ movies and series get poor ratings. Even when based on new IP.

Just like most of Disney Studios' movies released to theaters before streaming came along.

Live action is not Disney Studios bag (with the exception of a minority of properties... most of them remakes/reboots/sequels).
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I think I remember reading that Disney used most of its live action films back in the day as quick sources of cash to fund other projects. We mostly remember the prestige projects that received bigger budgets (Treasure Island, 20,000 Leagues, Mary Poppins), but the majority of them were cheaply made with the same rotating cast of actors. A few became lasting classics (The Parent Trap, The Absent-Minded Professor, The Love Bug), most came and went with little lasting impact, but at least made a decent amount of money (The Monkey's Uncle, That Darn Cat, Gus, etc.).

 

[BuddyThomas]

He’s referring to the lesbian relationship in Lightyear, which is indeed portrayed but really has no bearing on the storyline. However, as with Strange World, we’re supposed to believe that a brief representation of queerness defines an entire film and constitutes an “agenda” that straight people can’t handle.

It sounded like they were saying that the character got pregnant due to a lesbian kiss. Annnnnnnnyway………

 

[Figgy1]

 

[TP2000]

Conversation from another thread about Disney's plummeting brand reputation from the general public. Reposting here as the failure and controversy of this film is just another point of erosion of this one trusted and beloved family entertainment brand:

Thank you for posting this shocking and depressing information! It's important to acknowledge, even though it's a depressing thing to discuss right at Christmas. But it's real and it's happening. And it's very, very sad.

Truly a shame to see The Walt Disney Company now ranked below 64 other companies including Kohls, Walgreens, Lowe's, Target, Netflix, etc. Shocking actually.

Shocking is an understatement.

But as another poster put it so eloquently and succinctly, "Disney doesn't care about Midwest moms". Indeed - how's that working out for you, Disney?

I'd love to see a course correction. The free market has spoken here, and I still like to think that private companies are run by Capitalists even in the 2020's. But when you watch some of those Zoom call statements and leadership strategies that several Burbank execs accidentally let escape into the public a year or so ago, I have to wonder if the Burbank culture is too entrenched to course correct quickly?

I hope so, for the sake of Disney as a company and American icon. I just really want there to be a happy ending here.

 

[LittleBuford]

I did not say the storyline was progressive in Lightyear, I said it had 'progressive flair'. Which I think is a fitting description of what it is- a mostly standard and unremarkable film that has some stuff that would be considered progressive.

Had it been a good film, I think it would have done well, regardless of the “progressive flair”. But it wasn’t a good film, and it did about as well as it deserved.

 

[Figgy1]

BTW see it/don't see it I don't care but we're(my family) all going to see it on Disney+ as we're not currently going to theaters. It's on our Christmas vacation watch list

 

[BuddyThomas]

Thank you for posting this shocking and depressing information! It's important to acknowledge, even though it's a depressing thing to discuss right at Christmas. But it's real and it's happening. And it's very, very sad.



Shocking is an understatement.



I'd love to see a course correction. The free market has spoken here, and I still like to think that private companies are run by Capitalists even in the 2020's. But when you watch some of those Zoom call statements and leadership strategies that several Burbank execs accidentally let escape into the public a year or so ago, I have to wonder if the Burbank culture is too entrenched to course correct quickly?

I hope so, for the sake of Disney as a company and American icon. I just really want there to be a happy ending here.

What is your desired “course correction”?

 

[TwilightZone]

My current theory:

it is all Chapeak's fault!

the end

 

[Heppenheimer]

Conversation from another thread about Disney's plummeting brand reputation from the general public. Reposting here as the failure and controversy of this film is just another point of erosion of this one trusted and beloved family entertainment brand:

More information from the 2022 Axios/Harris poll, a widely recognized corporate brand poll that Disney has touted in the past, in 2019, Disney was #5, rated "Excellent" as it had been for years.

Fast forward just three years later and the company has shockingly dropped from #5 "Excellent" to #65 "Good". A nearly 100 year old brand took just three years of terrible cultural and controversial decisions to fundamentally change the public's perception and reputation of its brand.

And the low reputation is on points that used to be heart and soul of the brand: Trust. Ethics. Citizenship. Culture.

We are talking about the Walt Disney Company here, not Best Buy (which BTW now rates 14 places higher than Disney).

A brand and the trust of the public is an exceptionally fragile thing and the saying usually goes "when you're in a hole, stop digging", but Disney seems to be bringing in the steam shovels. Oh, and you know who won't be getting fired for the destruction of one of the world's most beloved brands? The DEI staff that has ruled the company for the past three years.

Truly a shame to see The Walt Disney Company now ranked below 64 other companies including Kohls, Walgreens, Lowe's, Target, Netflix, etc. Shocking actually.

Will be interesting to see in the 2023 poll with the continued controversies this year if the brand will get an expected "dead cat bounce" after a huge fall like this or the decline will solidify or fall even further (if that is even possible).

But as another poster put it so eloquently and succinctly, "Disney doesn't care about Midwest moms". Indeed - how's that working out for you, Disney?

Below Walgreens? Wow. I don't know about nationally, but their reputation plummeted here in New England. They're probably the most hated business locally rigjt now.