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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

mickEblu

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I had to do a little Googling...

Wow, that show is getting absolutely roasted!

I try to stay out of political discussions, but it appears that this path Disney insists on following of gender-swapping popular characters and franchises and trying to appeal to (quoting the Critical Drinker) MODERN AUDIENCES is netting Disney neither good will nor money.

Something has to give, because hemorrhaging cash and good will like this is not sustainable.

Ok I’ll go back to Burbank and let them know that the name for the new Swiss Family show coming out on Disney + is a bad idea. I don’t get it. I thought Swiss Family Robindaughter was a great name. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Heppenheimer

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Ok I’ll go back to Burbank and let them know that the name for the new Swiss Family show coming out on Disney + is a bad idea. I don’t get it. I thought Swiss Family Robindaughter was a great name. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Maybe name the show Icelandic Family Robinsdóttir to lend it an air of verisimilitude.
 

Phroobar

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The biggest problem is non of it is at all natural. Moving a franchise forward with new characters, male or female different race... Isn't really an issue. It becomes a problem when there isn't a compelling story or development of the transition. If you don't tell a great story, no one is going to care either way. And Disney has not done a great job telling great stories.
The problem is Disney can't just pivot away from this as it takes years to develop a project. It will take years before Disney projects will win good will again and make money. We are in that ten year cycle of mediocracy. Things released in 2030 will be better.

Disney was better off when they first acquire a company and let them do business as usual. As soon as the management is mucked with is when things fall part.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I had to do a little Googling...

Wow, that show is getting absolutely roasted!

I try to stay out of political discussions, but it appears that this path Disney insists on following of gender-swapping popular characters and franchises and trying to appeal to (quoting the Critical Drinker) MODERN AUDIENCES is netting Disney neither good will nor money.

Something has to give, because hemorrhaging cash and good will like this is not sustainable.
Most of the direct-to-D+ movies and series get poor ratings. Even when based on new IP.

Just like most of Disney Studios' movies released to theaters before streaming came along.

Live action is not Disney Studios bag (with the exception of a minority of properties... most of them remakes/reboots/sequels).
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Like I said at the beginning of this thread. I thought Strange World would fail because 1. It's character style was unimaginative. 2. They made the father look like bumbling idiot. The grandfather was an even bigger man child. Everyone else was there to treat him as a big kid and work on problems without him. I thought that was insulting to fathers everywhere. At least that is what I got from the trailer.

This was the same problem Black Widow had. The Red Guardian started out as an effective leader of the household when they were undercover. When we see him again, he is complete idiot. The girls and mom take control over everything leaving him as nothing more than the muscle. Go girl power. The same thing happen again in the Incredibles 2. Why can't they work together as a family and equally find a solution?
 

networkpro

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Like I said at the beginning of this thread. I thought Strange World would fail because 1. It's character style was unimaginative. 2. They made the father look like bumbling idiot. The grandfather was an even bigger man child. Everyone else was there to treat him as a big kid and work on problems without him. I thought that was insulting to fathers everywhere. At least that is what I got from the trailer.

This was the same problem Black Widow had. The Red Guardian started out as an effective leader of the household when they were undercover. When we see him again, he is complete idiot. The girls and mom take control over everything leaving him as nothing more than the muscle. Go girl power. The same thing happen again in the Incredibles 2. Why can't they work together as a family and equally find a solution?

because of the Mary Sue axiom.
 

TP2000

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Box office numbers just dumped for all overseas markets this afternoon, reflecting this past weekend's global box office, bringing the global box office total for Strange World up to date. Now at $57 Million globally after a month in theaters.

The trend continues for Strange World that it is actually much weaker in foreign markets than it is in domestic markets.

If our betters can whiff their nose at Midwesterners who didn't flock to Strange World, they'd have to wear an N95 mask lined with fresh lavender to deal with the middle-class Australians and Japanese and Swedes and Germans! And the Mexicans and Poles and Filipinos and Indians really, really don't like Strange World.

Strange World was banned in most Muslim, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Palestinian markets. And Communist China.

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TP2000

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Like I said at the beginning of this thread. I thought Strange World would fail because 1. It's character style was unimaginative. 2. They made the father look like bumbling idiot. The grandfather was an even bigger man child. Everyone else was there to treat him as a big kid and work on problems without him. I thought that was insulting to fathers everywhere. At least that is what I got from the trailer.

Sadly, this is now an almost mandatory formula that is not exclusive to Disney, but is often found in modern media.

If a production dares to show a traditional nuclear family with the parents still married, the husband/father is relegated to a bumbling fool, if not someone to just be pitied and made fun of openly.

Why can't they work together as a family and equally find a solution?

Because that would subversively imply that a marriage of equals is healthy and productive and inherently stable.

HR and your betters in the Faculty Lounge won't like that! You'll be accused of putting marginalized communities at further risk, you bigot. And lazy writers won't have easy jokes to slot into the next Disney cartoon. ;)
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Like I said at the beginning of this thread. I thought Strange World would fail because 1. It's character style was unimaginative. 2. They made the father look like bumbling idiot. The grandfather was an even bigger man child. Everyone else was there to treat him as a big kid and work on problems without him. I thought that was insulting to fathers everywhere. At least that is what I got from the trailer.

This was the same problem Black Widow had. The Red Guardian started out as an effective leader of the household when they were undercover. When we see him again, he is complete idiot. The girls and mom take control over everything leaving him as nothing more than the muscle. Go girl power. The same thing happen again in the Incredibles 2. Why can't they work together as a family and equally find a solution?

Our great grandparents lived through the Great Depression. We’re living through the Great Over Correction.
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
Box office numbers just dumped for all overseas markets this afternoon, reflecting this past weekend's global box office, bringing the global box office total for Strange World up to date. Now at $56 Million globally after a month in theaters.

The trend continues for Strange World that it is actually much weaker in foreign markets than it is in domestic markets.

If our betters can whiff their nose at Midwesterners who didn't flock to Strange World, they'd have to wear an N95 mask lined with fresh lavender to deal with the middle-class Australians and Japanese and Swedes and Germans! And the Mexicans and Poles and Filipinos and Indians really, really don't like Strange World.

Strange World was banned in most Muslim, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Palestinian markets. And Communist China.

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Dear God, make it stop…..make it stop.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Burbank agrees with you. Which is why they're mercifully sending it to Disney+ "for free!" this weekend. :D
You can actually spend money on the DVD as a Valentine's Day gift.
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
They made the father look like bumbling idiot. The grandfather was an even bigger man child. Everyone else was there to treat him as a big kid and work on problems without him. I thought that was insulting to fathers everywhere. At least that is what I got from the trailer.

This was the same problem Black Widow had. The Red Guardian started out as an effective leader of the household when they were undercover. When we see him again, he is complete idiot. The girls and mom take control over everything leaving him as nothing more than the muscle. Go girl power. The same thing happen again in the Incredibles 2. Why can't they work together as a family and equally find a solution?

This may be something that helps Avatar: The Way of Water in theaters. Unlike most other modern movies, Jake Sully is portrayed as a strong patriarch and father figure, and I think the themes of a healthy family unit will play well with audiences over the holiday season.

That's not to say that portraying dysfunctional families is a bad thing. But I feel a lot of movies nowadays are more focused on generational trauma and family strife, so Avatar the Way of Water may feel like a breath of fresh air in that regard.
 

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