BuddyThomas
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Or maybe the time of straight white people being the only ones portrayed on screen is OVER. Sorry to disappoint you.
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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film
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TP2000
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No to all of those, I haven't even heard of several of them. But I forgot about Armistead Maupin's Tales of The City!
I loved that one in the 1990's. I watched the remake/last season of it a couple years ago and enjoyed it also. But not quite as much as I loved the original 1990's episodes. I thought they handled the coming home and closure aspect of it all for Mrs. Madrigal very well in that last season, however. Plus the interesting and factual history they wove into it, which all pre-dated Stonewall as the real first rebellions that happened on the West Coast; San Francisco or that donut shop in LA that had a gay riot in the early 1960's. I also liked that they made the ultra-woke girl the villain.
mickEblu
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Thank you for apologizing.
LittleBuford
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Moreover, there are pre-teen gay children for whom such representation is very important. The lack of it during my childhood certainly contributed to the years I spent in a state of closeted self-loathing.
BuddyThomas
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If you think I was apologizing for anything, you should possibly reconsider.
LittleBuford
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Can you specify what you consider “progressive” about the actual storyline of Lightyear?
mickEblu
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I’m going to go out in a limb and say the two women kissing and getting pregnant.
TP2000
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Speaking of San Francisco, let's add in Beach Blanket Babylon to the list! I saw that several times in various eras; from the early 1980's to the 2010's. It got a bit too Canadian Bus Tour there towards the end, but I was really sad that it closed. And just two months before Covid. Might it return? I'm not sure you could do that sort of thing now.
But I sometimes find myself humming "San Francisco, Open Your Golden Gate!" in traffic.
But I sometimes find myself humming "San Francisco, Open Your Golden Gate!" in traffic.
RobWDW1971
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Conversation from another thread about Disney's plummeting brand reputation from the general public. Reposting here as the failure and controversy of this film is just another point of erosion of this one trusted and beloved family entertainment brand:
More information from the 2022 Axios/Harris poll, a widely recognized corporate brand poll that Disney has touted in the past, in 2019, Disney was #5, rated "Excellent" as it had been for years.
Fast forward just three years later and the company has shockingly dropped from #5 "Excellent" to #65 "Good". A nearly 100 year old brand took just three years of terrible cultural and controversial decisions to fundamentally change the public's perception and reputation of its brand.
And the low reputation is on points that used to be heart and soul of the brand: Trust. Ethics. Citizenship. Culture.
We are talking about the Walt Disney Company here, not Best Buy (which BTW now rates 14 places higher than Disney).
A brand and the trust of the public is an exceptionally fragile thing and the saying usually goes "when you're in a hole, stop digging", but Disney seems to be bringing in the steam shovels. Oh, and you know who won't be getting fired for the destruction of one of the world's most beloved brands? The DEI staff that has ruled the company for the past three years.
Truly a shame to see The Walt Disney Company now ranked below 64 other companies including Kohls, Walgreens, Lowe's, Target, Netflix, etc. Shocking actually.
Will be interesting to see in the 2023 poll with the continued controversies this year if the brand will get an expected "dead cat bounce" after a huge fall like this or the decline will solidify or fall even further (if that is even possible).
But as another poster put it so eloquently and succinctly, "Disney doesn't care about Midwest moms". Indeed - how's that working out for you, Disney?
More information from the 2022 Axios/Harris poll, a widely recognized corporate brand poll that Disney has touted in the past, in 2019, Disney was #5, rated "Excellent" as it had been for years.
Fast forward just three years later and the company has shockingly dropped from #5 "Excellent" to #65 "Good". A nearly 100 year old brand took just three years of terrible cultural and controversial decisions to fundamentally change the public's perception and reputation of its brand.
And the low reputation is on points that used to be heart and soul of the brand: Trust. Ethics. Citizenship. Culture.
We are talking about the Walt Disney Company here, not Best Buy (which BTW now rates 14 places higher than Disney).
A brand and the trust of the public is an exceptionally fragile thing and the saying usually goes "when you're in a hole, stop digging", but Disney seems to be bringing in the steam shovels. Oh, and you know who won't be getting fired for the destruction of one of the world's most beloved brands? The DEI staff that has ruled the company for the past three years.
Truly a shame to see The Walt Disney Company now ranked below 64 other companies including Kohls, Walgreens, Lowe's, Target, Netflix, etc. Shocking actually.
Will be interesting to see in the 2023 poll with the continued controversies this year if the brand will get an expected "dead cat bounce" after a huge fall like this or the decline will solidify or fall even further (if that is even possible).
But as another poster put it so eloquently and succinctly, "Disney doesn't care about Midwest moms". Indeed - how's that working out for you, Disney?
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BuddyThomas
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If I saw Strange World when I was a kid, it definitely would have helped. My parents were classic southern homophobes (I grew up in Florida). It also would have helped my brother, who, as I have previously posted, was gay, and who committed suicide when my father disowned him when he came out. I never spoke to anyone from my immediate family after that happened. So yeah, I have very strong feelings about this. Those on here crying about a less than five minute scene where there is a gay crush need to calm down and look within.
BuddyThomas
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That isn’t what happened. Did you see it?
mickEblu
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Here I was thinking you were being nice for once.
mickEblu
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Yes I did. Are we both talking about Lightyear?
BuddyThomas
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I’m nice to nice people.
mickEblu
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So you don’t think I’m nice?
BuddyThomas
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They didn’t “kiss and get pregnant”.
mickEblu
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They kissed AND one of the women is shown to be a pregnant (with a big belly) during a montage. Did you watch the movie?
LittleBuford
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He’s referring to the lesbian relationship in Lightyear, which is indeed portrayed but really has no bearing on the storyline. However, as with Strange World, we’re supposed to believe that a brief representation of queerness defines an entire film and constitutes an “agenda” that straight people can’t handle.
TwilightZone
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The simpsons been doing it since the 80s
Also there's still a lot of examples of strong male parental figures in media. Most of the bumbling type is usually relegated to comedies, where bumblingness is expected.
SuddenStorm
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I did not say the storyline was progressive in Lightyear, I said it had 'progressive flair'. Which I think is a fitting description of what it is- a mostly standard and unremarkable film that has some stuff that would be considered progressive.