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[djlaosc]

do any of the rumors include a Jurassic Park addition???...that would be awesome. Sorry I am just so pumped right now

It was apparantly one of two areas (JP and Seuss) that an attraction was being looked at being added in 2014, although it seems as though it will probably be Seuss (Mt. Crumpit being a possibility)

 

[djlaosc]

**Uni: Potter 2.0 is obviously coming. It will be ready for action in 2014. No official statements have been made by Universal, but per other threads (see the Universal article thread), there will at least be two and possibly three rides: the Gringott's roller coaster and the train ride between the two different parts of Potter world being ones confirmed per posters here. Transformers will also be coming in 2013. It seems that Seuss landing is also getting another ride. As per other posters, more projects are coming down the pipeline (But I will not disclose what those are. That is for the posters with the actual sources to choose when they would like to disclose Universal's other plans)

I thought that HP2.0 was going to be finished in 2015 - has it been moved forward?

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

It's more recent, but isn't Harry Potter finished? I'm just thinking that Jones lends itself to great theme park attractions.

Harry Potter has the books, which kids still buy and read, and they certainly made more Harry Potter films. Jones had three great films, a mediocre one, and doesn't have an uber-popular line of books.

Maybe they should have handed-off Indiana Jones in the fourth film, done a spin-off, or perhaps think about a reboot. Absent this stuff, Indy's heyday was over a decade ago . . . he's got some staying power, but I think overall Potter has more fans and staying power given the books.

 

[Lee]

It was apparantly one of two areas (JP and Seuss) that an attraction was being looked at being added in 2014, although it seems as though it will probably be Seuss (Mt. Crumpit being a possibility)

Lorax.

 

[marni1971]

I certainly would be *very* surprised if they announced an Indy for WDW.

I think the big reason why Carsland will probably not be coming to WDW is that Epcot has Test Track, and a new and improved Test Track will be coming out. Though Test Track and RSR are stage differently, it is basically the same ride system. This would invite some unwelcomed comparisons. Also, Carsland has obviously rejuvenated DCA, keeping Carsland a DCA exclusive would ensure a constant stream of guests to Anaheim who might have in the past written off DLR over WDW. WDW is a different beast, and AK needs attention, don't see a Carsland happening.

You're arguing again using your opinion as fact.

Ride system has nothing to do with it. Haunted Mansion and Buzz Lightyear use IDENTICAL ride systems. For example.

As of now Carsland, or at least RSR plus more, is 95% coming to Orlando.

Indy EMV could have come to Orlando as recent as last month. But it's been axed again.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Rather than close two attractions, build Carsland, and THEN build Monsters Inc coaster. Wouldn't it make more sense to complete MI first? Although it most likely will be expanded, the show building is already sitting there doing nothing.

I was thinking the same thing. It could absorb part of the capacity issues that will arise when Backlot tour and LMA close.

 

[Rasvar]

I certainly would be *very* surprised if they announced an Indy for WDW.

I think the big reason why Carsland will probably not be coming to WDW is that Epcot has Test Track, and a new and improved Test Track will be coming out. Though Test Track and RSR are stage differently, it is basically the same ride system. This would invite some unwelcomed comparisons. Also, Carsland has obviously rejuvenated DCA, keeping Carsland a DCA exclusive would ensure a constant stream of guests to Anaheim who might have in the past written off DLR over WDW. WDW is a different beast, and AK needs attention, don't see a Carsland happening.

The only thing with Test Track 2.0 is that I don't think it will pop. I really have low expectations for it. Carsland may be one of the few recent Disney projects that could generate enough market for both parks. AK needs attention but Avatarland is not really moving anywhere fast and there is nothing else in the pipeline that help that. DHS needs more capacity to really increase it's ability to be a full day park also. So I think focusing on either DHS or AK can be equal on the priority list. If Avatar drags, work on DHS.

 

[Skibum1970]

If Journey To The Center of the Earth from Tokyo DisneySea were announced for DHS, would we care that utilizes the same technology as Test Track? As has been stated, WDW has numerous Omnimovers and boat rides that all use the same basic tech. So, Test Track in EPCOT does not preclude RSR. If they want to keep RSR in CA, that is one something that can't be explained away. I just think that the discussion about using similar ride tech is not that valid. Of course, this is from someone who is in Cincinnati, OH and not in the offices of Imagineering.

Regarding IOA, I am guessing that HP 2.0 will be given all resources, along with the Transformers ride currently being built. With the expense being plugged into UNI, I would guess that IOA would have to wait a few more years before something new would be put in. I also agree that, for right now, Potter still has a bigger fan base than Indy.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I'm a big Indy fan, I liked Crystal Skull

Do these two statements confuse anyone else when used in the same sentence?

 

[ChrisM]

Regardless of whether or not (and it's not for right now) DL Indy is coming to DHS, the Indy Stunt Show is going to be eventually replaced by something. TDO clearly doesn't want to be in the "stunt show" business any longer and it likely just increases their liability with potential injury to performers.

I'm guessing TDO has been reviewing several choices for imminent DHS improvement - Carsland, Indy ride + other things, etc.

As of right now it's looking like the wheel has fallen on Carsland.

 

[RSoxNo1]

As to the WDWFANBOYS posting earlier this evening, sorry I didn't post earlier but even I fall asleep sometimes. Yesterday I posted info about avatar and ironman that had been confirmed by the way of Spirit. In a conversation I have had with the same 2 individuals that gave that info amongst other things such as the Seuss landing project, bubbles1812 can verify we had a conversation about this and numerous other universal projects last night. I was told that Carsland had been greenlighted along with a set of projects that would be done in phases after Carsland had been completed. Like the fantasyland expansion.
Phase one would of course be Carsland. Followed by a monsters inc coaster and then finally a closing of the Indy stunt show for a Indy ride, my sources were not sure about which rode it would be and personally I was so happy to get the info I didn't question this any further. I've been asked numerous times who are my sources there are more than 1 and they are trustworthy.
I was also informed today that WDWFANBOYS was hassled today by a beer fan, cor less calories than a bud. On August 15 he produced a very similar article with no sources saying that all this was still on the table. I also find it funny that certain members here are ready to pm and talk when they know juicy info is in the pipes but then once it's released they go radio silent and no longer have the time of day for you.
Basically this is my info given by my sources, I usually don't talk in riddles and I believe in what I have been told 100% percent. So Mr Coors man or anyone else if you have any questions or comments please pm me
Like I said I stand behind my info and I will gladly answer anyone's questions
Remember the upcoming months will prove this right or wrong. If my sources are wrong I will admit it, but when they are proven right I will have a Cheshire grin for a long time

I have actually amended the article from it's original posting last night to clarify the Indiana Jones information. Thanks for chiming in.

 

[Atomicmickey]

I have a dim memory of someone, a couple of years ago, calling CarsLand Disney's 'Potter Swatter".
That didn't make much sense if it stayed on the West Coast.

Perhaps the plan has been all along, build one, and if the response is good, build another.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. All the manufacturers are probably sitting there, ready
to pull those old Purchase Orders and just start building a second set of stuff . . .

Let's not forget, Uni is cloning Transformers on the East coast, and cloning HP on the West Coast,
so this seems to be the modus operandi these days . . .

 

[ChrisM]

So....am I the only one eagerly awaiting the inevitable Al Lutz columns pointing out every little difference between the two Carslands and how the DHS is obviously and tragically inferior?

 

[nytimez]

So....am I the only one eagerly awaiting the inevitable Al Lutz columns pointing out every little difference between the two Carslands and how the DHS is obviously and tragically inferior?

Given the track record in recent years and the notorious cheapskating in Orlando, I can't help but think that the DHS version will be obviously and tragically inferior.

 

[twebber55]

gotta say i have thoroughly enjoyed this thread this week

 

[TarzanRocked99-]

See, you're not thinking like TDO management here. You're thinking logically. TDO sees attractions as revenue drains more or less. Sure, if they're a big hit they have increased merch sales and maybe bring more people to the gate and probably if done right return a higher investment on capital than the TDO brass cares to admit, but they're risky. Meet n greets, restaurants, DVC, and especially stores, now those are home runs with ROI as they are guaranteed cash streams or are cheap to build or both.

So from their perspective, it makes more sense to shut down 2 attractions first (slashed costs, see? No maintenance costs or salaries for ride operators/stuntmen), THEN build a new attraction on their footprint to spread out capex over time. Then, you build the MI coaster in the existing building after Carsland. That way they don't have to foot the bill for construction simultaneously, don't have the operating costs from an MI coaster during all this time, and most importantly, they're able to say they have something NEW to get a return guest after they've seen Cars land.

Now from our perspective, yeah build the MI coaster first as it will be cheaper to do than Cars land, could be done a heckuva lot quicker, and potentially get good numbers from the tie-in with the MI prequel. And it looks like you're doing SOMETHING to combat UNI.

But I'm guessing they don't see it that way.

spoken for the truth

 

[TarzanRocked99-]

I thought that the timeline was...

2013: Transformers
2014: Seuss Landing (Mt. Crumpit) / Jurassic Park addition
2015: HP2.0

Has that changed now?

thats what i have always understood it to be as well

 

[paulsboy]

gotta say i have thoroughly enjoyed this thread this week

You and me both. This thread is exactly why I lurk here. Love it.

 

[SirLink]

Actually all this replacing this for that, I'm not arguing against the issue of removing it seen as its short jump and I can see it can although be it in Disney Studios, but should they not just keep Indy stunt show and add an attraction seen as they have an expansion pad right at the front of park on the parking lot?

I hate this idea of lets replace x with y when we should be asking for lets keep X and add Y. Maybe its just me though?

 

[djlaosc]

Lorax.

Really? I thought that that was the original idea that they were supposed to be going with (and of course it just came out last year - came out a couple of months ago here in the UK), but then recently there seemed to be a lot of talk about Mt. Crumpit, along with amber mines for Jurassic Park as well as other things.

I'll take whatever they are going to build (even if it's on the same level as Cat in the Hat it will give me something else to ride in Seuss Landing), but if all of the things I've named above were in consideration, it's good to see that they have been working on lots of plans!