Which is worse: Pool hopping, using FPs outside the time window, ...

[Southern_Tink]

Clarification?

Can someone clarify this for me please?

I didn't realize pool hopping was against the rules. I've never done it because I didn't realize until I joined this forum that you could, although I was planning on visiting some of other resort's pools on my upcoming trip. However, did the rule change? Some people have said you can't do that, its not fair, its breaking a rule but I thought it was a perk for staying on property? I'm confused! :shrug:

 

[The Mom]

I don't see a thing wrong with pool hopping.

I guess it becomes a problem when the pool is one of the major selling points for staying at a certain resort, such as Stormalong Bay at YC/BC.


The cost of the pool, unlike the cost of dining at a restaurant, is included in your room rate. It's all wrapped up together in the deluxe package, which costs more than staying at a value, or off site.

It may be irritating to some to not be able to find a chair, or have to wait in line for a longer amount of time for the slide, because people who have not paid for that amenity (the fancier pool) are using it.

Guests have not paid extra for a FP, so it isn't an issue (to me) if someone comes late.

People have paid extra (through their increased room rate compared to a comprable offsite hotel) for EMH, so it may be irritating to see someone who is not a guest getting the same benefit.

The same goes for someone lying about a child's age. If person A has paid for his 4 year old, and person B has lied, and gotten the child in free, it is annoying.

The problem is deciding which behavior seriously violates rules. I think we can all agree that there are minor rule violations that would not bother most of us, but that we would all probably say something if we saw someone murder someone.

The sticky part is trying to determine how to react to all of the transgressions in between the two. :lol:

 

[The Mom]

Can someone clarify this for me please?

I didn't realize pool hopping was against the rules. I've never done it because I didn't realize until I joined this forum that you could, although I was planning on visiting some of other resort's pools on my upcoming trip. However, did the rule change? Some people have said you can't do that, its not fair, its breaking a rule but I thought it was a perk for staying on property? I'm confused! :shrug:

All of the resort pools have a sign saying that the pool is for the guests of that particular resort...unless you are a DVC member. Even DVC members cannot use the pool at Stormalong Bay unless they are staying there.

 

[Gepettotrevor]

I He would waste no time tattling anytime any jot or tittle of a rule was broken.

They way I am, haha sure I point it out, but I make fun of things like this. Unless there is a fight or something going on, It's really not a good idea complaining to CM's about other guests. Most, if not all, are trying to not only do their job but also make sure things are done nice and safely.

Watchin people break little rules is one of the fun parts of people watching. Sometimes, the park's entertainment can be the other guests. Some people find it funny watching other people's stupidity and such. Laugh about it, don't have a pi$$ing fit like someone peed in ur cherrios.



Well I'll admit, the EMH wristband thing isnt too bad. I don't see a problem if you are staying on-site and have a few friends/family staying off-site and want to try getting everyone in EMH. It won't hurt a thing.


If Disney was going to be 100% strict and stick to every little rule, they would. Some things just aren't worth it and should be left alone.

 

[Southern_Tink]

All of the resort pools have a sign saying that the pool is for the guests of that particular resort...unless you are a DVC member. Even DVC members cannot use the pool at Stormalong Bay unless they are staying there.

Thank you. I really was confused and thought any on property guest could swim in any resort pool! Whoops! I read in some WDW guidebook (can't remember which one now) that at some point you could pool hop between any All-Star pools if you were staying at any All-Stars resort. Is this not true either?

 

[Edisto Pluto]

I guess it becomes a problem when the pool is one of the major selling points for staying at a certain resort, such as Stormalong Bay at YC/BC.


The cost of the pool, unlike the cost of dining at a restaurant, is included in your room rate. It's all wrapped up together in the deluxe package, which costs more than staying at a value, or off site.

It may be irritating to some to not be able to find a chair, or have to wait in line for a longer amount of time for the slide, because people who have not paid for that amenity (the fancier pool) are using it.

Guests have not paid extra for a FP, so it isn't an issue (to me) if someone comes late.

People have paid extra (through their increased room rate compared to a comprable offsite hotel) for EMH, so it may be irritating to see someone who is not a guest getting the same benefit.

The same goes for someone lying about a child's age. If person A has paid for his 4 year old, and person B has lied, and gotten the child in free, it is annoying.

The problem is deciding which behavior seriously violates rules. I think we can all agree that there are minor rule violations that would not bother most of us, but that we would all probably say something if we saw someone murder someone.

The sticky part is trying to determine how to react to all of the transgressions in between the two. :lol:

You are so right. We stay at the YC/BC so that we are close to EPCOT and the pool. Check the rates..........there are reasons why they are high.....one of which is the pool. ID's are checked and we have seen folks escorted out for pool hopping.

 

[The_CEO]

I personally do not see one problem with using your FP at a later time. If you look at it from the side, your fastpass was not used during the time frame, therefore an extra StandBy was used to fill your space. In return when you do use your FP it is returned to a value of 0 instead of -1. OK maybe that was a little too complicated.

 

[The Mom]

Thank you. I really was confused and thought any on property guest could swim in any resort pool! Whoops! I read in some WDW guidebook (can't remember which one now) that at some point you could pool hop between any All-Star pools if you were staying at any All-Stars resort. Is this not true either?

All Stars is considered one resort, so it's OK to move from pool to pool. The same with YC/BC; different resorts, same "busy" pool.

And, once upon a time, you could pool hop between the resorts...back in the day when it was only Contemporary, Polynesian, and Disney Inn, along with Ft Wilderness and the Treehouses.

 

[Ravenclaw87]

I agree with a few of the others here in that... none of these things really bother me. For instance, Poolhopping seems like too much of a pain in the butt (for instance, if I'm staying at Pop Century and I want to go swim at the Poly, then I'd have to take a bus to the MK, then take the monorail to the Poly)--- I'm too lazy! I'd rather just stay in our "computer pool" (haha).

But, that's just me *shrugs* To each his own!

 

[The Mom]

I personally do not see one problem with using your FP at a later time. If you look at it from the side, your fastpass was not used during the time frame, therefore an extra StandBy was used to fill your space. In return when you do use your FP it is returned to a value of 0 instead of -1. OK maybe that was a little too complicated.

I actually understood that. :lookaroun But I guess that it then makes someone who is returning at the correct time wait longer, because there is an extra person in their time frame? :shrug: But you didn't pay for your place in line, so you really haven't lost anything except a few minutes, if that.

So, someone lies about their child's age. I've spent more money to get the exact same thing. (park admission for my child)

None of it would bother me enough to ruin my day.

Someone gets an EMH band without being a guest. I've spent more money to stay onsite in order to get this perk.

Someone pool hops. I've spent more money in order to get this perk.

I would have to say that someone using a FP outside of the window would bother me the least.

But, that's just my opinion.

And I wouldn't let any of it ruin my day.

 

[The_CEO]

I actually understood that. :lookaroun But I guess that it then makes someone who is returning at the correct time wait longer, because there is an extra person in their time frame? :shrug: But you didn't pay for your place in line, so you really haven't lost anything except a few minutes, if that.

So, someone lies about their child's age. I've spent more money to get the exact same thing. (park admission for my child)

None of it would bother me enough to ruin my day.

Someone gets an EMH band without being a guest. I've spent more money to stay onsite in order to get this perk.

Someone pool hops. I've spent more money in order to get this perk.

I would have to say that someone using a FP outside of the window would bother me the least.

But, that's just my opinion.

And I wouldn't let any of it ruin my day.

You have a good point, it would technically make their wait that much longer. And for the lying about the age deal, that's just messed up!

 

[Kingdom WDW]

Pool Hopping: This is one of my pet peeves. First off, most of the pools at the resorts are pretty much the same, probably except for Y&B. For example, P.O and Boardwalk Inn. Also, when I stay at Y&B and pay x amount of cash to stay there, I want to be able to enjoy it without having a zillion people paying y amount at another resort. After all, we're paying to enjoy our pools, and their paying for their pool. If I was staying at Scopa Towers and was going to visit friends at the GF, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Where I may be paying $150 for my room, they're paying triple that amount for their pool.

Using FP Outside the Time Window: Not really a problem if it's an accident. For example, you're in line for Pooh when you have FPs for one of the SMs and you go a little bit over. But if you blatantly use it, say two hours after, I would have a different opinion.

EMH Hours: Mixed.

Lying about Kid's Age: A pretty big pet peeve. I'd call it stealing.

 

[PhotoDave219]

lying about the age of your child so you pay a reduced ticket rate or don't pay at all, or getting extra EMH wrist bands for people who aren't staying on property.

For me it's got to be a tie between pool hopping and the EMH wristbands as these are the two that probably affect me the most directly.

For me, its rude people who feel they are entitled to everything.

 

[darthjohnny]

I really don't think any of these is anything to be concerned about or is practiced by that many people. If Disney really was concerned about this, they'd do something about it.

 

[Wiidrone]

using FPs outside the time window

 

[Yellow Shoes]

(i bolded the subjects of each paragraph)
Here is the deal. Well, at least my deal:
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I think the moral of the story is that we cant be too quick to judge people's intentions, and that all of these things RARELY ever cause problems. If Disney really was that worried/frustrated about this, they would put the resources towards fixing the systems implemented.

*sigh*
I'm not sure there were any "morals" in that post.....

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The lying about your child's age is the worst there, with the EMH debate a close second.

My parents have done that with me.


Are they going to WDW hell?:lol:

 

[DisneyGigi]

What really stinks is when your child is 3 but is the height of a 6 year old! Then you get the all knowing look like you are lying when you are not!

With the late for FP thing. They only hand out so many anyway so even if someone shows up late it isn't going to make that much of a difference anyway is it? I have never been late but if it were only a few minutes I would not waste my ticket. :shrug: If it were to be a big difference I would not.

 

[YodaGirl]

1. Lying about your child's age - I think is probably the wost.

2. Using late FastPasses - it can cause the lines to back up for the people who were actually there on time.

3. EMH Band - slightly irritating. It's nice to have a less crowded park, but at the same time, if it's that late, it's going to be less crowded, anyway.

4. Pool hopping - I've never personally done it, but I honestly don't see a big problem with it. If WDW is really that concerned about it, then they should post CM's to check ID's before anyone is allowed in the pool area (or at least gets in the pool). In all honesty, I have considered going over to WL to swim. If FW had a themed pool, I wouldn't. I know that FW is more inexpensive that the other resorts, but actually, the price is close to the price of the value resorts - and they don't have to provide mousekeepers, towels, etc. for each site. I'm sure many people will disagree, but that's just MHO.

 

[wvdisneyfamily]

Is that even possible? I thought they scanned your park ticket when they gave you your wristband, therefore they would know if you already were given one. I don't see how anyone could get extra ones, unless they somehow steal them from a cast member.:shrug:

To answer your question, anything involving lying or breaking rules bothers me....that is just the type of person I am. I guess what bugs me most is people lying about the ages of their kids.

Me, too. I try to play by the rules and would greatly like it if others did, too. If you have to lie or cheat to get it, it's probably not worth it.