When rules don't apply to others; I want to hear your stories

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I doesn't seem like you have ever had the need for an ECV but you are absolutely incorrect assuming every incident is the fault of the ECV driver. I have been in an ECV, stopped dead for the safety of the crowds in front and on both sides of me and still adults and more often children tripped over the ECV. So, by your logic that was my fault because I rode it on pavement ? ECVs stop pretty darn fast as long as your are driving responsibly. Why should where these devices at WDW follow rules different from anywhere else in the country? There are idiots and oblivious ECV, wheelchiar, rickshaw, motor vehicle operators everywhere but there are probably more able bodied people in the same catagory. My medical condition does not currently warrant the ownership and use of one of those stop on a dime wheelchairs you mentioned but it will fairly soon. In the meantime my option is to stay home since my mobility is very limited or, rent an ECV which will please my family but I'm sure will annoy the Disney bus users and all the people who assume we are all roving bands of lazy scammers .Guess which option I choose? . For the overwhelming majority of people who do understand that for the grace of God go I ,sorry for the preceeding. Your complaints were legitimate but way over blown and the recommendations rediculus .
They do stop fast, however, as I'm sure you have found out, they are counter-intuitive. No designated brake just the need to take your hand off the accelerator. The accelerator is exactly the same thing that we, as bicycle riders used as hand brakes, so, in a panic moment, it isn't to much of a stretch to do the opposite of what is needed. I wish they would find a better solution to that problem. If you have a three wheeled ECV it is also very easy to tip it over if you make a sudden sharp turn. All it really takes is that same attention that people that get upset about people stopping in the middle of the path demand of those people. Be aware of your location, what is around you, and were they are located. And never, never side step without looking. It could be painful. A person may be able to yell wrongfully at the person on the scooter, but, when all is said and done it's the person that is hit that will feel the pain. Your protection is primarily your responsibility, not the general public's. If we all work together almost no bad will happen. If people continue to insist that others should be watching out for them... there is a good chance that pain will be inflicted and blaming someone else will not take it away.
 

Bronson55

Active Member
They do stop fast, however, as I'm sure you have found out, they are counter-intuitive. No designated brake just the need to take your hand off the accelerator. The accelerator is exactly the same thing that we, as bicycle riders used as hand brakes, so, in a panic moment, it isn't to much of a stretch to do the opposite of what is needed. I wish they would find a better solution to that problem. If you have a three wheeled ECV it is also very easy to tip it over if you make a sudden sharp turn. All it really takes is that same attention that people that get upset about people stopping in the middle of the path demand of those people. Be aware of your location, what is around you, and were they are located. And never, never side step without looking. It could be painful. A person may be able to yell wrongfully at the person on the scooter, but, when all is said and done it's the person that is hit that will feel the pain. Your protection is primarily your responsibility, not the general public's. If we all work together almost no bad will happen. If people continue to insist that others should be watching out for them... there is a good chance that pain will be inflicted and blaming someone else will not take it away.
I can't argue with you there. You are absolutely right
 

ChristyKay

Well-Known Member
Just got to the parks earlier today, went to MK first. Within 3 minutes I ran into someone with a stroller that dead stopped in the middle of the walkway. But whatever, it happens, it's crowded. Went on HM first and then PoTC. I was SHOCKED with how many people were talking during both those rides. Not even trying to whisper, just going on about their day, ADRs, whatever. I was so annoyed. It took everything in me not to yell SHUT UP during both those rides. But whatever, not going to let a few loud people ruin my trip :)
 

ninjaprincesst

Well-Known Member
I doesn't seem like you have ever had the need for an ECV but you are absolutely incorrect assuming every incident is the fault of the ECV driver. I have been in an ECV, stopped dead for the safety of the crowds in front and on both sides of me and still adults and more often children tripped over the ECV. So, by your logic that was my fault because I rode it on pavement ? ECVs stop pretty darn fast as long as your are driving responsibly. Why should where these devices at WDW follow rules different from anywhere else in the country? There are idiots and oblivious ECV, wheelchiar, rickshaw, motor vehicle operators everywhere but there are probably more able bodied people in the same catagory. My medical condition does not currently warrant the ownership and use of one of those stop on a dime wheelchairs you mentioned but it will fairly soon. In the meantime my option is to stay home since my mobility is very limited or, rent an ECV which will please my family but I'm sure will annoy the Disney bus users and all the people who assume we are all roving bands of lazy scammers .Guess which option I choose? . For the overwhelming majority of people who do understand that for the grace of God go I ,sorry for the preceeding. Your complaints were legitimate but way over blown and the recommendations rediculus .
Obviously this person has never had a real medical need, and people like my father have no need for a fancy motorized wheel chair, he has a prosthetic leg, at home he just walks, but at Disney it is just too much walking for his prosthetic (he also has a rod in his back so excesive walking tends to make him start to get wobbly) and we have tried renting a manual wheel chair and that is just too exhausting on the rest of us trying to push it, so he really should not assume things about people, and the comment about going slower is just stupid, you have to be able to keep up with the walking pace of your group or there is no point in having the stupid scooter, people need to take responsibility for themselves and their children and look once in a while.
 

DisneyGigi

Well-Known Member
People so engrossed in their cellphones that they can't watch where they are walking, so when you do see them and 'run into them' instead of dodging them, they get all huffy because they expected you to watch out for them.
MDE made this so much worse! It is like zombies all walking around looking at their phones. I hate it. At least stop somewhere off to the side, it is almost as bad as texting and driving.
 

DisneyGigi

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I think the thing that annoys me the most is people smoking where ever they please and I smoke. Have been going to Walt Disney World before there were dedicated smoking areas. I always stepped off to the side to smoke. Definitely did not walk around in crowds with a cigarette. I actually got burned by an idiot walking with a lit cigarette. I do not and will not smoke outside of a smoking area anywhere at the parks, at the resort or anywhere. Have a little respect for those around you!
 

ninjaprincesst

Well-Known Member
I think the thing that annoys me the most is people smoking where ever they please and I smoke. Have been going to Walt Disney World before there were dedicated smoking areas. I always stepped off to the side to smoke. Definitely did not walk around in crowds with a cigarette. I actually got burned by an idiot walking with a lit cigarette. I do not and will not smoke outside of a smoking area anywhere at the parks, at the resort or anywhere. Have a little respect for those around you!
Yeah like how the bridge that goes behind the castle by where the Merida meet and greet is has practically become a smoking area because so many people hide over there and smoke.
 

mimitchi33

Well-Known Member
  • In Disney's California Adventure on Ariel's Undersea Adventure in the summer of 2014, someone brought a stroller they'd bought from home (with their toddler still in it) onto the ride, and they had to stop the ride.
  • Children watching videos on their phones instead of interacting during character meals. During the Cinderella dinner at 1900 Park Fare, a baby was watching Pororo, and during my birthday meal at Chef Mickey's, a toddler watched Goldie and Bear while Pluto was at their table!
  • Children climbing on top of rails in queues, or dancing or running in them ignorning that people are in front of and behind them.
  • The worst of these incidents also happened on my last trip: I saw an adult dressed as Spider-Man in a wheelchair outside It's A Small World. Not only did it break the "no costumes if you're over 12" rule, but there was no reason they could've found it acceptable to wear.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I actually witnessed a whole family break some rules.

We were on the Seeds tour at the Land, and this family came in late to the tour with a crying child. The child was pitching a fit about something causing a lot of disruption. The parents were fed up and just weren't paying attention to the tour at all.

So, when we came to the station where they gave you sample Cucumbers, and while our tour guide was distracted, the family all of the sudden decided to quickly leave the scene.

After the tour guide finished giving out cucumbers, she started to question what happened to the family. We told her that we saw them just leave.

Well, this put the tour on a sudden standstill. The tour guide (not sure how she did this), but kept her cool and started contacting her Manager over her walky -talky. Unfortunately, the family just disappeared.

We asked the tour guide if this was a major issue, and she said "Yes! This could get me in huge trouble, and they can also shut down the [Living with the Land] ride"...

I would have also left if that was my child.

2012- my mother, sister and I got our orders at the Main Street Bakery (before it had been RUINED by Starbucks) and begin to look for a table. We find one, but there are only two chairs. I see a gentleman sitting by himself, not eating, at a table with a plethora of chairs. I politely ask if I may take one. He gives me a very curt and impertinent "No." Obviously, he was holding a table for his party that was still in line. Shenanigans!

"Ruined" and "Starbucks" do not belong in the same sentence.

I don't know, i just didn't think it was professional (Though im understanding) of her to start freaking out and inform all the (paying) guest on tour of potential consequences in her employment she could be facing.

Sorry if any of my posts where seen as offensive.

I completely agree. It was unprofessional to talk to other guests about what "trouble" she could be in. Or about the situation at all. Handle it quietly.
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
If you want Starbucks, stay in your hometown and go wherever it is all the hipsters with the vape pens are flocking to.

I will, however, cheerfully retract my strong comments regarding Starbucks if someone can successfully make a compelling argument as to how, precisely, overpriced designer coffee fits in with Walt's vision of Smalltown America.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
If you want Starbucks, stay in your hometown and go wherever it is all the hipsters with the vape pens are flocking to.

I will, however, cheerfully retract my strong comments regarding Starbucks if someone can successfully make a compelling argument as to how, precisely, overpriced designer coffee fits in with Walt's vision of Smalltown America.

It did start out as a neighborhood coffee shop after all. Why not offer good coffee to people that want it? By that logic Edy's shouldn't be sold at WDW..or anything by Dole...or Coca Cola..or Werther's.. or half of the souvenirs that could also be purchased online or in your hometown.
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
It did start out as a neighborhood coffee shop after all. Why not offer good coffee to people that want it? By that logic Edy's shouldn't be sold at WDW..or anything by Dole...or Coca Cola..or Werther's.. or half of the souvenirs that could also be purchased online or in your hometown.

Coca Cola is older than Mount Rushmore! It's as American as apple pie! Starbucks was founded by hippies in the 70s, the same decade that gave us Watergate, pet rocks, leisure suits, and Son of Sam.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Coca Cola is older than Mount Rushmore! It's as American as apple pie! Starbucks was founded by hippies in the 70s, the same decade that gave us Watergate, pet rocks, leisure suits, and Son of Sam.

Ok.. and DSLRs weren't around even as long as that.. so we remove those from the photogs on Main Street, and remove all of the balloons that light up? Go back to classic balloons?

What decade does everything have to be from?

I'm kind of joking.. I get that there's Starbucks haters out there.. all I'm saying is if you look around that "street" there's plenty of stuff that would have never been in Walt's Small Town America.. because too much time has passed since then.

Mainly though.. I have to deal with scooters, and strollers, and obnoxious parents, obnoxious kids, and obnoxious adults and teens all day.. Can you just let me have my preferred coffee before I have to deal with all of the madness? Please.

P.s. You forgot to add Bowl Cut hairstyles.. those were the worst crime of all ;)
 
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