When is that major AP overhaul happening?

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Yes, because cars are lasting longer people are buying less cars. Sales have been down across the board for a few years.

Right...which is why I asked if cars shouldn't be built to last (in an effort to boost the auto industry).

 

[DanielBB8]

I wish people would buy less Annual Passes.

People aren’t going into debt for Annual Passes because Disney spreads the payments. If you charge for the AP in full for your entire family, it could be up to $2000 or more easily. If the payments break it into less than $200 a month, no one is going into debt.

 

[Disney Irish]

Right...which is why I asked if cars shouldn't be built to last (in an effort to boost the auto industry).

Sorry I guess I misunderstood the question. No cars should be built to last as long as possible. Cars should not be a commodity, unless they can find a way to build cheaper but still reliable cars. At least that is my opinion.

 

[Phroobar]

Right...which is why I asked if cars shouldn't be built to last (in an effort to boost the auto industry).

Maybe the auto industry can do what the video game industry does and take away the right to drive that car after they decide not to support it anymore.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well we are half way there. In this country most people pay rent.

But we don't have the large scale public transportation network. And I don't see that being build any time soon. Not without a complete overhaul of the current systems.

 

[Phroobar]

People aren’t going into debt for Annual Passes because Disney spreads the payments. If you charge for the AP in full for your entire family, it could be up to $2000 or more easily. If the payments break it into less than $200 a month, no one is going into debt.

You are going into debt for $2000 to Disney if you pay in installments. As I said before if you can't afford the up front cost for entertainment then you probably shouldn't have it.

 

[Phroobar]

But we don't have the large scale public transportation network. And I don't see that being build any time soon. Not without a complete overhaul of the current systems.

Due to all the construction kickbacks, governmental corruption and inconvenience, it isn't profitable.

 

[Disney Irish]

Maybe the auto industry can do what the video game industry does and take away the right to drive that car after they decide not to support it anymore.

Due to all the construction kickbacks, governmental corruption and inconvenience, it isn't profitable.

Well if we see a large scale autonomous fleet being introduced I could see car ownership becoming nonexistent. But we are still like 20-25 years off from that.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Honestly, I think people love their cars too much to ever fully give them up. You know, personal freedom and all that.

 

[Disney Irish]

Honestly, I think people love their cars too much to ever fully give them up. You know, personal freedom and all that.

True, but if it means one less large expense and you only "rent" one for a few hours. I think a lot of the public would be on-board.

 

[DanielBB8]

You are going into debt for $2000 to Disney if you pay in installments. As I said before if you can't afford the up front cost for entertainment then you probably shouldn't have it.

It’s not debt if you pay it off and Disney doesn’t collect. If you can’t pay, Disney usually suspends the pass. It seldom goes into collections.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

True, but if it means one less large expense and you only "rent" one for a few hours. I think a lot of the public would be on-board.

Except for the growing number of people who make their living with their cars (Uber, Lyft drivers, etc).

 

[Disney Irish]

Except for the growing number of people who make their living with their cars (Uber, Lyft drivers, etc).

And just like before those people will find some other line of work. You can't stop progress just because some will be out of work. I know we've been discussing lately about workers rights and wages, but at some point we have to look toward the future.

 

[Phroobar]

True, but if it means one less large expense and you only "rent" one for a few hours. I think a lot of the public would be on-board.

The gear-heads would be the ones that keep their cars. Everyone else would use a self driving Uber since gas will be too expensive to afford.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

And just like before those people will find some other line of work. You can't stop progress just because some will be out of work. I know we've been discussing lately about workers rights and wages, but at some point we have to look toward the future.

You mean whatever jobs are left over after the robots take over?

OK, I'm outta this thread. Carry on.

 

[Phroobar]

You mean whatever jobs are left over after the robots take over?

OK, I'm outta this thread. Carry on.

How do we know that hasn't already happen?

 

[Disney Irish]

The gear-heads would be the ones that keep their cars. Everyone else would use a self driving Uber since gas will be too expensive to afford.

You're assuming that oil based gas will still be used by then and not some renewable alternative fuel source.

 

[Disney Irish]

You mean whatever jobs are left over after the robots take over?

OK, I'm outta this thread. Carry on.

There will still be jobs left lol, just in different industries.

 

[Phroobar]

You're assuming that oil based gas will still be used by then and not some renewable alternative fuel source.

It's the nature of Man. Oil based fuel will be used until it's completely gone no matter what the environmentalists say.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's the nature of Man. Oil based fuel will be used until it's completely gone no matter what the environmentalists say.

Well with a big push by large industries to renewable fuels sources, even by the oil industry, I give it 20-25 years before the big switch. About the same time when autonomous vehicles become the primary mode of transportation.

Of course a major catastrophic issue may accelerate that.