When is that major AP overhaul happening?

[Phroobar]

Well with a big push by large industries to renewable fuels sources, even by the oil industry, I give it 20-25 years before the big switch. About the same time when autonomous vehicles become the primary mode of transportation.

Of course a major catastrophic issue may accelerate that.

I hope so. I think we will have an oil war before then.

 

[Darkbeer1]

http://www.ocregister.com/2018/06/0...s-on-park-visits-for-some-annual-passholders/

>>
In the recent past, Disney has already raised prices significantly, created a system of tiered pricing for daily tickets based on estimated demand, stopped the sale of Southern California Annual Passports except for renewals and is expected to make other changes to manage attendance.


The change announced this morning will help to reduce crowding in Disneyland during the summer of 2019, by shunting many visiting passholders into the adjacent Disney California Adventure instead.


Disney officials did not release a list of the planned blackout dates for the entire year, or how many will occur.


One bit of potentially good news for passholders. Disneyland spokesmen said they have no current plans to shelve the popular plan that allows people to pay for their annual passes on a monthly basis.


Disney observers have speculated for more than a year that killing the option of monthly payments would drive down the number of annual passholders immediately, since even the cheapest passes cost hundreds of dollars.


But financial experts point out the advantage of monthly payment plans to Disney and other parks, such as Knott’s – offering a stable and predictable cash flow throughout the year.<<

But if you think this is the only group getting changes, guess again. The CM self sign-ins, signing in others, and free passes will also be changing......

https://www.ocweekly.com/disney-proposes-15-wage-hike-by-2020-for-some-union-workers-but-not-all/

>>A flyer obtained by the Weekly touts the Disney offer as a “clear path” to a $15 minimum wage. Upon ratification, wages would boost up to $13.25 per hour. Proposed annual increases over three years sets pay at $15 per hour by 2020, two years ahead of the state’s minimum wage law. The flyer claims full-time workers currently earning $11 per hour would stand to make $4,300 more annually by the end of the three-year contract offer. What concessions are embedded in the contract offer are, of course, not as readily available. <<

So don't be surprised to see even ParkHoppers change to something different, limiting Disneyland visit days.

So what do we know, Payment Plans are staying, prices are going up, and more restrictions to the dates available and to which park will happen.

And what to expect, more changes to all admission programs.

Also, expect more FastPass changes, probably multiple levels to the MaxPass program, with higher fees. One major benefit to the MaxPass program, besides being all digital. IF Disney decides to charge for Galaxy Edge FP's, if the ride breaks down, Disney can easily refund the amounts for FP's being invalid.

 

[Phroobar]

At least there would be an incentive to keep the ride operating full time during the day.

CM: "Hey one of the wheels came off this BTMRR train."
Manager: "There are still lots of wheels on the train, keep it running!"

 

[Ismael Flores]

You are going into debt for $2000 to Disney if you pay in installments. As I said before if you can't afford the up front cost for entertainment then you probably shouldn't have it.

What if you CAN afford it but you prefer to have that money in your portfolio working for you instead of it working for Disney.

There are several scenarios of how things could work not everything’s is black and white.

I pay for multiple passes and even though I can pay them at time of purchase I prefer not to. Instead of making one lump payment and let Disney work the money I do that myself and invest it. If you play it right you can easily end up paying less than half of the value of the passes.

Logic dictates that it’s always better for the money to be in your pocket than someone else’s.

Problem is that people don’t know how to take advantage of what isbiffered out there for you.

Case in point last time I bought my car instead of paying car in cash and purposely did not finance it through a bank but instead paid it with a regular credit card. This card offered me free interest in purchases for two years and double miles.

I got the money invested and made the minimum payment to the card for those two years interest free. Meanwhile the money was in my control earning me money. I also had made miles in that purchase so took a nice vacation first class to UAE with those free miles.
Two years later paid the full balance of the car after having made some money investing that same money

 

[Phroobar]

What if you CAN afford it but you prefer to have that money in your portfolio working for you instead of it working for Disney.

There are several scenarios of how things could work not everything’s is black and white.

I pay for multiple passes and even though I can pay them at time of purchase I prefer not to. Instead of making one lump payment and let Disney work the money I do that myself and invest it. If you play it right you can easily end up paying less than half of the value of the passes.

Logic dictates that it’s always better for the money to be in your pocket than someone else’s.

Problem is that people don’t know how to take advantage of what isbiffered out there for you.

Case in point last time I bought my car instead of paying car in cash and purposely did not finance it through a bank but instead paid it with a regular credit card. This card offered me free interest in purchases for two years and double miles.

I got the money invested and made the minimum payment to the card for those two years interest free. Meanwhile the money was in my control earning me money. I also had made miles in that purchase so took a nice vacation first class to UAE with those free miles.
Two years later paid the full balance of the car after having made some money investing that same money

Now your talking! Your the only one that gets it.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Now your talking! Your the only one that gets it.

And that’s why I have traveled to almost 40 countries, have to work the process to your advantage you know.

Got a couple of my nephews to understand the system and they are also now exploring this beautiful world. Key thing is discipline.
Credit and credit cards can be your friend if used correctly. Now they pay everything with a credit card that gives them miles or points that can be turned into miles and they keep track of their spending limit. the banks apps can help with that by turning on spending limit notifications. Keep the cash your had budgeted for the month safe from spending or in an investment account. At the end of the month pay off the statement for the credit card.
You have now earned miles and helped your credit status

And now just have to pack your bags. ;-)

 

[DanielBB8]

Now your talking! Your the only one that gets it.

Really? You contradicted yourself. The best way to keep money in your pocket is to take advantage of the monthly plan. You don’t pay anything in full. You spread your costs throughout the year via the interest free monthly payments plan. Invest the lump sum in investments.

 

[DanielBB8]

And that’s why I have traveled to almost 40 countries, have to work the process to your advantage you know.

Got a couple of my nephews to understand the system and they are also now exploring this beautiful world. Key thing is discipline.
Credit and credit cards can be your friend if used correctly. Now they pay everything with a credit card that gives them miles or points that can be turned into miles and they keep track of their spending limit. the banks apps can help with that by turning on spending limit notifications. Keep the cash your had budgeted for the month safe from spending or in an investment account. At the end of the month pay off the statement for the credit card.
You have now earned miles and helped your credit status

And now just have to pack your bags. ;-)

Yes, I use credit cards since it’s more safe than cash or debit cards. I pay in credit and pay off in full upon the due date. I use the Disney AP monthly payment plans. I spread my payments to budget for all my expenses.

 

[Phroobar]

Really? You contradicted yourself. The best way to keep money in your pocket is to take advantage of the monthly plan. You don’t pay anything in full. You spread your costs throughout the year via the interest free monthly payments plan. Invest the lump sum in investments.

99% of those AP payment holder that are on payment plans would never do that.

 

[DanielBB8]

99% of those AP payment holder that are on payment plans would never do that.

So 99% of APs on monthly payment plans are debtors and at risk of bankruptcy.

 

[TROR]

People who use the MPP do so not to save money but because they have no money. They can't afford to spend it all upfront which is why they don't. They're living paycheck to paycheck but feel that Disneyland is a good way to spend the money they're so short on. Not food, not housing. Disneyland. That's sad.

 

[Phroobar]

So 99% of APs on monthly payment plans are debtors and at risk of bankruptcy.

Looking at national numbers, a good percentage just might be. They use payment plans because they have no money. I prefer paying for things up front. One less bill to worry about.

 

[Californian Elitist]

People who use the MPP do so not to save money but because they have no money. They can't afford to spend it all upfront which is why they don't. They're living paycheck to paycheck but feel that Disneyland is a good way to spend the money they're so short on. Not food, not housing. Disneyland. That's sad.

You’re not seriously trying to speak on behalf of thousands of people and pretending like you know what’s going on in people’s personal lives, are you?

 

[TROR]

You’re not seriously trying to speak on behalf of thousands of people and pretending like you know what’s going on in people’s personal lives, are you?

On behalf of? No. I'm calling it as I see it. The people using the monthly payment plans for APs are the same people who use payment plans for their iPhones and protest about their low wage jobs not paying them enough and demanding more support from the government.

 

[Californian Elitist]

On behalf of? No. I'm calling it as I see it. The people using the monthly payment plans for APs are the same people who use payment plans for their iPhones and protest about their low wage jobs not paying them enough and demanding more support from the government.

What do you mean on behalf of? On behalf of the population you’re speaking about.

You don’t see anything because it’s impossible to. Your age and immaturity are showing. Again, stop trying to speak for everyone when you can’t and stop making broad generalizations. It’s ridiculous and absurd.

 

[DanielBB8]

On behalf of? No. I'm calling it as I see it. The people using the monthly payment plans for APs are the same people who use payment plans for their iPhones and protest about their low wage jobs not paying them enough and demanding more support from the government.

There are a lot more richer people on payment plans.

 

[TROR]

What do you mean on behalf of? On behalf of the population you’re speaking about.

You don’t see anything because it’s impossible to. Your age and immaturity are showing. Again, stop trying to speak for everyone when you can’t and stop making broad generalizations. It’s ridiculous and absurd.

Speaking "on behalf of" means you're speaking in their place. I'm not speaking in place of those on the MPP. I'm criticizing their habits.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Speaking "on behalf of" means you're speaking in their place. I'm not speaking in place of those on the MPP. I'm criticizing their habits.

You’re speaking on behalf of these people that you’ve never met.

Habits? Do you have cameras set up in the homes of APs who decide to utilize the monthly plan? How are you aware of the habits of thousands?

 

[TROR]

You’re speaking on behalf of these people that you’ve never met.

I'm speaking on them. I'm not speaking on behalf of them.

Habits? Do you have cameras set up in the homes of APs who decide to utilize the monthly plan? How are you aware of the habits of thousands?

I'm making broad generalizations relating to what I see. The two main types of AP's I see are the spoiled rich kids who post on their Instagrams, vlog, and social media about their trips and then the poor families who act trashy in the parks (of which there are many!).

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm speaking on them. I'm not speaking on behalf of them.


I'm making broad generalizations relating to what I see. The two main types of AP's I see are the spoiled rich kids who post on their Instagrams, vlog, and social media about their trips and then the poor families who act trashy in the parks (of which there are many!).

You. Are. Speaking. On. Their. Behalf. Whichever way it is spun, you’re wrong.

Listen to what you’re saying and read what you’re writing. It’s ludicrous.