BrianLo
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The one thing MK does have though to its credit is the wider array of animatronic shows. Would have loved SW:GE to essentially have a "Cantina" AA show. Otherwise Disneyland is bordering on perfectly balanced.
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What will Disney announce for Disney World at the 2022 D23 expo?
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The one thing MK does have though to its credit is the wider array of animatronic shows. Would have loved SW:GE to essentially have a "Cantina" AA show. Otherwise Disneyland is bordering on perfectly balanced.
BrianLo
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On the topic of DLR, the fact that Mermaid is presented so much more simply in DCA definitely helps.
The new fantasyland expansion simply was dragged down by its lack of real headliner. Like the Beauty and the Beast Ride in Tokyo (although I can't speak to if that's truly good or not since I'm avoiding spoiling myself). SDMT is honestly a wonderful little attraction, marred by popularity and expectations to carry an expansion.
UNCgolf
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People here seem to be down on the Tokyo BatB ride, and there are definitely areas where it could be better (significantly so in at least one scene), but I think it's much closer to being a legitimate headliner than Little Mermaid or 7DMT.
yensidtlaw1969
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I agree with UNCgolf - someone on these boards once tried to draw comparison between the ambition of Tokyo's BatB and MK's Little Mermaid and I almost burst out laughing from how ridiculous that was. There is no comparison.
Without spoiling anything, the ride does have its issues, some of which we've seen in other recent attractions stateside, but the scale and scope are far, far larger than anything in WDW's New Fantasyland. The Beast's Castle exterior is 2/3rds the height of Cinderella Castle, and without saying too much there are many elaborate show elements beyond that. It's not perfect, but it's absolutely better than some would have you believe.
(I know this continues the off-topicness but)
Why does everyone call Frozen a "book report" ride? Because it's certainly not a book report.
The story is you're visiting Elsa's ice castle. That's literally it. Criticize the lack of story/creativity all you want but I wouldn't call it a book report ride.
Why does everyone call Frozen a "book report" ride? Because it's certainly not a book report.
The story is you're visiting Elsa's ice castle. That's literally it. Criticize the lack of story/creativity all you want but I wouldn't call it a book report ride.
On the other hand, Mermaid is a true book report ride, but it seems to leave out way too many details of the story. A good book report ride should be able to convey a general story to an audience unfamiliar with the IP.
Think Splash. Yes, it's not the entirely of SotS, but it does tell a story from start to finish that most riders can easily follow/figure out despite having no familiarity to the source IP.
Think Splash. Yes, it's not the entirely of SotS, but it does tell a story from start to finish that most riders can easily follow/figure out despite having no familiarity to the source IP.
Brer Panther
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It's more of a "sequel attraction that repeats the movie" like The Seas With Nemo and Friends. It takes place after the movie, and yet Elsa is back in her ice palace singing "Let It Go" for no reason whatsoever.Why does everyone call Frozen a "book report" ride? Because it's certainly not a book report.
The story is you're visiting Elsa's ice castle. That's literally it. Criticize the lack of story/creativity all you want but I wouldn't call it a book report ride.
DisneyDebRob
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She’s definitely singing it for a reason. To get more families to Epcot so the kids have something to see. Storyline really doesn’t matter because the goal of the whole project fell under the narrative of” there’s nothing for kids in Epcot”. So throw Elsa into the park singing the most popular song in the last 20 years from Disney and they will come. I hate it but it’s wasn’t put in Norway for me.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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I’m not disputing anything you say here…and yet, still we see it…
Disney makes grandiose announcements and lets fans do the work for them as far as buzz goes…Iger ego kinda thing.
No other operator has their own self celebratory convention.
The danger there is you better deliver…and they don’t in an increasing number of these things.
Tha Realest
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Based on announced projects going forward, I suspect we’ll hear more about investments into the “metaverse” than DHS.
DCLcruiser
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I'm not a 6 year old in Fantasyland, so for me, it does, but I get it. Then again, I think TSMM is one of the best rides at Disney and it's just a really fun/engaging experience.
DCLcruiser
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The ride should be about Elsa/Anna learning about Norway and going on a tour of all the sites/history. It should still be a Norway ride.
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bhg469
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Instead of reducing a couple of lines in the park, we get a couple of lines of code..
JoeCamel
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In the future you purchase an avatar and the great MetaDisney will send them to a virtual park for a nominal fee. Ties up all the messy ends and eliminates overhead. It's a win-win right?
doctornick
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Yes. I agree with most everyone that DL is the superior park - helped by the plethora of smaller dark ride plus a few extra headliners that mostly have equivalents in other WDW parks - but MK really does thrive with proper indoor shows. I love the fact that every MK land* has an indoor show which help to compliment and round out the areas. There’s that option to pop into an indoor, air conditioned space for continuously running entertainment in between the rides and that to me is part of what makes Disney parks of such high quality.
Unfortunately, they’ve moved away from that premise over time. Epcot still had a lot though many have gone away (Kitchen Kaberet, the movie and show in WoL) or been neutered (the Imagination theater). But subsequent park haven’t done nearly as much such attractions. I’d love to see the company go back to putting continuously running shows into more lands - DHS and DAK would really benefit - as a way to keep crowds more entertained and satisfied. As I’ve often contended, if newly built lands would have a theater show to compliment the big rides, they’d feel a lot more complete.
*except Main St technically but that always seems like less of a full land.
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matt9112
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Ride is an E ticket in function. IE marketing and demand. In fact demand was so high for a very long time the idea you might even get to ride it was a lottery. Like loot boxes for theme parks!
However it shines brighter than everything around it. It’s elevated higher than it else wise would be if it wasn’t surrounded by fecal matter.
matt9112
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Spot on
The que is amazing in fact it’s a highlight of the entire MK in my opinion.
mysto
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You know, the timing of any announcements at this D23 may turn out to be disappointing. The Fed is trying to slow the economy to fight inflation, and at some point they will succeed.
The freight train I see coming is more cancelled Disney projects due to "the Economy" this time. Announcements made now are almost perfectly timed to be cancelled during a possible recession in the next year.
Sorry!
The freight train I see coming is more cancelled Disney projects due to "the Economy" this time. Announcements made now are almost perfectly timed to be cancelled during a possible recession in the next year.
Sorry!