The parks REALLY ARE that busy.. Trust me, I'm in them at LEAST twice a week.. It really is packed... I've actually commented to my wife that the crowds are 'strange'... THOUSANDS of people, not walking room on Main street or in fantasyland... and the wait times aren't that bad... I find myself wondering what the hell all the people are doing
it really is bizzare.. but the people ARE there.. regardless of what you THINK about reducing CM's and what not.. That doesn't cause generally crowd congestion in the parks... it's like mardi gras in new orleans there right now.
You have just stated my point exactly. I don't doubt the parks are packed. i've heard it from friends. I know it is true.
It's just the numbers I question. You just mentioned the wait times ... all I see are normal, almost anytime of the year type waits. Waiting an hour for Splash Mountain or 30 minutes for Mansion or even 70 for Pooh isn't unusual at all.
I don't see pics of Space Mountain showing a REAL 4-hour wait with the ENTIRE inside queue filled and folks looping around the side of the arcade and down the walkway into Toontown. What I see is a 70-minute posted wait. I see that year round.
So, I'm adding two and two but not getting four ... and you're telling me the same thing.
as far as banning people for opinions.. I don't think that has EVER happened.. But anyone who has the 'stones' to 'call out' the site admin in the forums (*Cough* Merf *Cough*) should just go ahead a log off.. This isn't a public forum, after all. ]
I wouldn't call out anyone unless they did likewise to me. I treat people as I am treated. But I believe our young JC skipper was concerned about him being told to take a hike if he questioned Disney management here ... that to me is censorship pure and simple and would cause me to walk away. I may not believe that WDW is the most magical it has ever been, but I would never want someone gone just because they held that viewpoint.
Public forum or not if you have people afraid to state their opinions, you have a problem. I'd hate if that were the case here because I do enjoy bantering with folks about Disney ... but there are other sites I do that on too.
I just don't get it.. Why do you want to dispute the numbers and their validity? Do you REALLY think Disney wouldn't allow more paying guests with open wallets into the parks if they could? Really.. Come on.. this is common sense.
Of course not. But would Disney issue these closings at lower thresholds than in the past to drum up headlines and the appearance that all is rosey after they destroyed many families in the past few weeks? Yeah. I damn well know just how cutthroat an operation Mickey runs.
And let's take a look at these closings ... it seems like in no time they go from Phase 1 to 4 to none at all. They aren't losing next to anything in terms of one-day admits who get fed up and head to SWO or UNI instead. They get the folks in another park or they wait until they 'reopen'. So, they aren't hurting themselves at all by halting admits for all of maybe an hour or two tops in mid-afternoon.
And the publicity can be priceless
